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Buying a top-end bike, but without the decals?

Old 05-05-08, 11:15 PM
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Buying a top-end bike, but without the decals?

...keeping in mind I'm not in the market to do this, but it was part of a conversation tonight:

A friend and I were talking tech/bikes/geekdom, etc:. We talked about some of our favourite frames... among them, the Cannondale SuperSix and the SystemSix, the Specialized Tarmacs... etc:. When it came to the Cannondales we both agreed that the frames are great.

"But damnit, can't I just buy the frame without any decals?!"
It's not like we're pro cyclists on camera during a race that would garner advertising space for Cannondale...

So, is that possible? These certainly are not "generic" frames. They're great, sure. Would it be possible to buy a frame directly from, say, Cannondale, and buy it without the decals and labeling? How much extra do you think they would charge?
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Have you tried emailing them?
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I would assume the "decals" are part of the paint process these days, meaning you would probably have better luck just buying the frame, and taking it to a body shop to have it painted.
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I know how you feel. My frame has a Marinoni decal on the down tube, seat tube head tube and left chainstay. Best of luck getting a frame without decals.
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i would just buy a frame and get a custom paint job on it.

or when people ask just tell them you're paid $200 more for each sticker per day.
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Originally Posted by markro
I would assume the "decals" are part of the paint process these days, meaning you would probably have better luck just buying the frame, and taking it to a body shop to have it painted.
Agreed. It would probably involve them yanking one off the assembly line early and bypassing the decal process, then getting it back in somewhere downstream. . .

I completely sympathize, but I'm pretty sure this will never happen without some pretty influential friends at the factory.
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Easier done with custom bike builders -- I was really surprised by Kurt Knock at Everti titanium cycles; I told him I wanted the naked titanium look and he had no problem with it. Later he changed his decals to a white colour that I really liked so I ended up changing my mind and going with the decals.
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Originally Posted by prendrefeu
Would it be possible to buy a frame directly and buy it without the decals and labeling?
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The problem w/ repainting is you usually lose the factory warranty. So it's kind of a bind..
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Originally Posted by the beef
The problem w/ repainting is you usually lose the factory warranty. So it's kind of a bind..
Who looking at a custom job worry about warranty?

Custom Shops are who you want to talk to, and don't even go there if u have a budget, kids to feed.
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Originally Posted by Stallionforce
Easier done with custom bike builders -- I was really surprised by Kurt Knock at Everti titanium cycles; I told him I wanted the naked titanium look and he had no problem with it. Later he changed his decals to a white colour that I really liked so I ended up changing my mind and going with the decals.
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Originally Posted by Stallionforce
Easier done with custom bike builders -- I was really surprised by Kurt Knock at Everti titanium cycles; I told him I wanted the naked titanium look and he had no problem with it.

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Sexiest bike I've ever seen was a custom Seven that someone had ordered with no decals. Took me 10 minutes to even figure out it was a Seven. Naked Ti is teh hotz.
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I like decals
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Originally Posted by voltman
Have you tried emailing them?
Yes, e-mailed Cannondale last night. No response yet. I may or may not have also e-mailed the same question to specialized a year or two ago (I can't remember), but I definitely didn't hear back if I did... which is maybe why i forget if I did or didn't. I'll let everyone know if/when/what Cannondale says in reply.

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Dude, phallenthoul - you've got Willier and Cervelo... if you can hook up the Cannondale or a Specialized, great. But these frames I'm asking about haven't been seen much non-labeled.

Talk to me, man... you have something??
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Originally Posted by Ih8lucky13
I like decals
Me too, it lets everyone know how fast I am.
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I prefer subtle, less, none, or custom work done. Sleepers.
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Originally Posted by prendrefeu
Dude, phallenthoul - you've got Willier and Cervelo... if you can hook up the Cannondale or a Specialized, great. But these frames I'm asking about haven't been seen much non-labeled.

Talk to me, man... you have something??
Specialized you might be able to get through Asia, but Cannondales (six series) are made out east. Actually, I think Patrick has badged Specialized frames, maybe he can work his magix.
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I don't mind decals, so long as they're subtle. I prefer no logos...just a nice color scheme.

However, there's no escaping large logos on bikes. And the higher up the lineup it is, the more likely the company is going to plaster it with a LARGE logo. Gotta advertise, after all.

Cannondale's logos are exceptionally large, I've noticed.
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Cannondale's logos are exceptionally large, I've noticed.
That could be because of the exceptionally long name.
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Doesn't it seem like the easiest bike in the world to get exactly the way you wanted it would be to buy from Specialized? It sounds likje a company that makes special ordered items.

For those of you that like decals, you are definitely cycling in the right era... I think most modern bikes have as much space dedicated to decals as all 12 of my vintage bikes combined.
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Originally Posted by steaktaco
That could be because of the exceptionally long name.
Ah yes. Quite right.
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I don't like decals but for some reason Cannondale doesn't bother me, strange because they are huge. Have you thought ablout going Ti? On Ti bikes you just heat them up and peel them off.
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Trek will do solid color paint for $300, last I checked. I assume this could be without any lettering.
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Cannondale replies:

"Thank you for your interest in Cannondale. Unfortunately we do not do special orders. The way the bikes are spec'd in our catalogue including colorways and decals, with updates on our website, is the way that they are shipped from our factory; sans the occasional substitution due to component availability. Sorry we could not be of further help."

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Originally Posted by R900
Trek will do solid color paint for $300, last I checked. I assume this could be without any lettering.
AFAIK the $300 trek paintjob is the project one type paintjob, and it doesn't void the warranty on trek's own bikes.
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