Should I worry about this (image attached) ?
05-13-08, 01:07 PM
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Should I worry about this (image attached) ?
I've been running on my Vredestein Fortezza TriComp Pro tubulars for about 250 miles. Today I had to make an emegency stop/braking and when braking I was blocking my rear wheel.
Now I have two spots where there's no rubber and where I can look down to some white stuff, probably what Vredestein's calling the "SPL Sportex Protection Layer", a Polyamide strip under the center tread...
Anyway... Should I worry about this ? Should I ride on with no worries or should I buy a pair of new tubulars ?
Also, which tires would be recommendable ? Continental GP4000 ?
Cheers,
Jakob Laursen
Now I have two spots where there's no rubber and where I can look down to some white stuff, probably what Vredestein's calling the "SPL Sportex Protection Layer", a Polyamide strip under the center tread...
Anyway... Should I worry about this ? Should I ride on with no worries or should I buy a pair of new tubulars ?
Also, which tires would be recommendable ? Continental GP4000 ?
Cheers,
Jakob Laursen
05-13-08, 01:08 PM
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Yep, time to get new tires. The GP4000's are great, even the Michelin Pro2Race or Pro3Race.
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You looking for a training tubular? If so I highly recommend Tufo S33 Specials. I will probably get blasted for the suggestion but I like the ones I have had and they wear VERY well.
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a hole in a tubular sounds like a recipe for disaster during some roughly paved descents
05-13-08, 02:17 PM
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I'm looking for some tubulars which are very durable and well-protected against flats. Thats my highest priority.
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Vittoria Pave, with its distinctive green sidewall. If it's good enough for Paris-Roubaix, it's probably good enough for you.
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the tubular tire is glued to the rim, the clincher isn't. if you flat on a tubular you still have a modicum of control. Really, though, this thread isn't the place for such a discussion. Not trying to be an ass, just trying to stay on topic.
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I'm going to sound like a real jerk, but do you really need to ask? I can't imagine that that tire will even roll smoothly, let alone be safe, but it just seems to be common sense.
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Yes that tire is toast. Mind you I wouldn't blame the tire. NO tire of any brand will stand up to being locked up. Racing bicycle tires just can't stand that sort of abuse and in fact in an emergency stop you shouldn't even touch the rear brake. Its front brake only but of course don't overdo it. Yes you don't want to go over the handlebars but you don't have to be scared of it. I think you need to practice your braking on the front only until you get the feel for it. Personally I like Vredestein tires as they have very good performance for not a huge price and again NO brand of tire would have survived a lock up.
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+1 to throwing out that tire. I've been riding Schwalbe Ultremos for the past two years and I like them better than my previous brand, Continental GP4000.
05-13-08, 06:48 PM
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I wouldn't use that tire of yours not even for one mile. Throw it away. I like Specialized Armadillo, they last long long time and they are pretty resistant to punctures. Not the best ones for racing though.
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For a second I thought this was going to be another one of those "where does my penis go?" threads.
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Anyways, yeah, that is cashed. Time for a new tire.
05-13-08, 09:50 PM
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Pcad would get another 10K miles out of that tire.
05-13-08, 11:31 PM
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contis can be hard to put on as they all seem a bit tighter than most tubies. (if that's an issue for you). very happy with Vittoria Evos, myself, but the conti competitions on my other bike are durable enough for daily commuting.
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Practice it both ways, and you will see a profound difference in stopping distances between methods.
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Less than half the price of the Vittorias mentioned and VERY durable.
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