I'm not really liking my Keo's
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I'm not really liking my Keo's
Hard to clip in/out of, getting some hot spots on my left foot too.
For you guys that didn't get on with Keo's what did you switch to?
For you guys that didn't get on with Keo's what did you switch to?
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I never had Keo's.
My pedal of choice is the Time RXS, best thing I did in the last year.
Oh and The Sidis at the same time was'nt bad either.
No more hot spots for me.
My pedal of choice is the Time RXS, best thing I did in the last year.
Oh and The Sidis at the same time was'nt bad either.
No more hot spots for me.
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The RXS looks pretty similar to the Keo, what do you prefer about it?
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Might give them time to form to your feet, but I can't wear Sidi's at all. I really like them - they are a fantastically well made shoe. The last just isn't a good shape for my foot and they are painful. I do best with Shimano and Specialized shoes that I've found so far.
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2. Large surface area and point of contact, Provides me with a greaer feeling of confidance
3. The cleat is really easy to walk on. I think it was designed to be this way.
4. Feels just as comfortable after a long ride.
5. The pedal is virtually maintenance free.
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1. Clip in is natural and intuitive the pedal always seems to be at the right position.
2. Large surface area and point of contact, Provides me with a greaer feeling of confidance
3. The cleat is really easy to walk on. I think it was designed to be this way.
4. Feels just as comfortable after a long ride.
5. The pedal is virtually maintenance free.
2. Large surface area and point of contact, Provides me with a greaer feeling of confidance
3. The cleat is really easy to walk on. I think it was designed to be this way.
4. Feels just as comfortable after a long ride.
5. The pedal is virtually maintenance free.
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I'd try adjusting them around a bit before completely changing to another system. You can lessen the tension on them to make it easier to clip in and clip out. It is possible that a slight shifting of your cleat can also help things out.
I've been happily using Keo Sprints (on my 1000) and now Keo Carbons on my Madone and absolutely love them.
I've been happily using Keo Sprints (on my 1000) and now Keo Carbons on my Madone and absolutely love them.
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I have Keo Carbons and Sidi ergo 2's... no problems clipping in or out...
Make sure cleats are mounted in correct position so that when clipped in your feet are in a natural position going around..
and only time i had hot foot was from forgetting to tighten my buckles once.
Make sure cleats are mounted in correct position so that when clipped in your feet are in a natural position going around..
and only time i had hot foot was from forgetting to tighten my buckles once.
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Love my KEO Sprints, too.
I got the Sidi Mega Mesh which are
a wide shoe. Not too bad with hot
spots. I don't think we're supposed
to be completely comfortable with
every single piece of gear or componentry.
It gives us something to dwell on when
we're riding, and inspires us to purchase.
S.
I got the Sidi Mega Mesh which are
a wide shoe. Not too bad with hot
spots. I don't think we're supposed
to be completely comfortable with
every single piece of gear or componentry.
It gives us something to dwell on when
we're riding, and inspires us to purchase.
S.
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I been using TIME pedals since their 1st model and time really rocks, using rsx carbons now. Regarding shoes, the old time shoe was pretty good and the old carnac too. For some reason new models are all too narrow.
Wonder if you guys are using "le wedge" thingys to compensate and eliminate feet pain.
Wonder if you guys are using "le wedge" thingys to compensate and eliminate feet pain.
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I currently have three road bikes that I ride. All have Keo's. My two lesser bikes have Sprints, the Super Six has Look carbon Keo's. Never had an issue with any of them.
I've been riding Look clipless since they invented the clipless pedal.
Could it be the way you have the cleats mounted, regarding your foot conditions?
BTW...cheaper pedals have cheaper and fewer bearings. The nicer ones have sealed and needle bearings (generally three to do a better job of handling weight) that make the pedal spin more easily and the don't get hung up, upside down for single sided pedals. But I've never had an issue with the Sprints, and they get badly abused as the bikes they are on get ridden in bad conditions.
I've been riding Look clipless since they invented the clipless pedal.
Could it be the way you have the cleats mounted, regarding your foot conditions?
BTW...cheaper pedals have cheaper and fewer bearings. The nicer ones have sealed and needle bearings (generally three to do a better job of handling weight) that make the pedal spin more easily and the don't get hung up, upside down for single sided pedals. But I've never had an issue with the Sprints, and they get badly abused as the bikes they are on get ridden in bad conditions.
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I use the Time Carbon RXS (or something). I love the solid platform feel and they have a bit of Q Factor adjustability. They do not alway clip in with a solid "snap" sound like my old Look deltas but the ride feel more than makes up for it.
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I currently have three road bikes that I ride. All have Keo's. My two lesser bikes have Sprints, the Super Six has Look carbon Keo's. Never had an issue with any of them.
I've been riding Look clipless since they invented the clipless pedal.
Could it be the way you have the cleats mounted, regarding your foot conditions?
BTW...cheaper pedals have cheaper and fewer bearings. The nicer ones have sealed and needle bearings (generally three to do a better job of handling weight) that make the pedal spin more easily and the don't get hung up, upside down for single sided pedals. But I've never had an issue with the Sprints, and they get badly abused as the bikes they are on get ridden in bad conditions.
I've been riding Look clipless since they invented the clipless pedal.
Could it be the way you have the cleats mounted, regarding your foot conditions?
BTW...cheaper pedals have cheaper and fewer bearings. The nicer ones have sealed and needle bearings (generally three to do a better job of handling weight) that make the pedal spin more easily and the don't get hung up, upside down for single sided pedals. But I've never had an issue with the Sprints, and they get badly abused as the bikes they are on get ridden in bad conditions.
It may be an adjustment thing but when I put them on I adjusted the tension as far back as I could, still it takes a firm effort to clip in and I have to look down o orientate the pedal.
Fine if I'm racing and only have to clip in once but definitely sketchy at stop signs/lights.
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Now, I have switched to Speedplay pedals and they are really easy to use once you get the cleat set up correctly. I like the fact that they are two sided pedals, the amount of float is really nice, and they are easy to clip out.
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My Sprints have never really given me any trouble, I have a cheaper Sidi shoe too, but my feet are narrow so the fit is good for me. I would say a slight adjustment to the tension along with a cleat fitment double check would do a lot for you, if that doesn't solve the problem then i would look into the other suggestions for sure.
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I used to have KEOs on all my bikes.. switched to Ultegra 6620s and I feel like they are a better pedal. The cleats are better and the wide body of the pedal helps with hotspots.
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I used to have mis-clipping with the Keo Carbon; it can be dangerous when the shoe slips on a reversed pedal. Since I started using the Time pedals I never missed a re-entry.
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All the people recommending pedals and shoes fail to realize that both are highly personal. Hot spots are usually a shoe fit issue. Try on shoes in your price range blindfolded. Don't be swayed by color, or anything else but fit. Think about custom molded footbeds - not necessarily orthotics (there is a big difference). All you need to do, unless you have serious alignment issues, is support the entire bottom of the foot evenly. Don't listen to any idiot who says you need to crush your foot into the smallest possible shoe for 'performance'. The same idiots were selling rock climbing shoes years ago. Those f**kin things fit in that manner turned many people off that sport, and it's happening in cycling now.
As for pedals: If you come from a MTB background, or your first pair of clipless was SPD, you will be used to the 'align and stomp' engagement technique. Speedplay, for example works fine for you types. Time, Look, and their imitators use a forward kick to engage first the tip of the cleat, whereupon the pedal rolls slightly forward and the heel can then be engaged. For people used to this, it is fast, easy, and doesn't require any looking down.
Getting used to a different clipping method can be frustrating. I can't use Speedplay, however good they are for others. This is because I have been using Time pedals for about 20 years. I currently use Look, and they are the easiest I have ever tried. I tried Quattros, and fumbled for engagement constantly. This doesn't make them junk. Far from it. I keep my pair in case I want to use my MTB shoes sometime to commute on my road bike.
When you have bought shoes that fit, and made them better with molded footbeds, think about the type of pedal engagement you would likely find easiest, and go with an entry level of that type. You will likely fumble and damage cleats and pedals if they aren't what's right for you. If you find yourself liking them, upgrade next season. If not, you haven't wasted much money. Then try another type until you find what suits you, not what someone else likes.
As for pedals: If you come from a MTB background, or your first pair of clipless was SPD, you will be used to the 'align and stomp' engagement technique. Speedplay, for example works fine for you types. Time, Look, and their imitators use a forward kick to engage first the tip of the cleat, whereupon the pedal rolls slightly forward and the heel can then be engaged. For people used to this, it is fast, easy, and doesn't require any looking down.
Getting used to a different clipping method can be frustrating. I can't use Speedplay, however good they are for others. This is because I have been using Time pedals for about 20 years. I currently use Look, and they are the easiest I have ever tried. I tried Quattros, and fumbled for engagement constantly. This doesn't make them junk. Far from it. I keep my pair in case I want to use my MTB shoes sometime to commute on my road bike.
When you have bought shoes that fit, and made them better with molded footbeds, think about the type of pedal engagement you would likely find easiest, and go with an entry level of that type. You will likely fumble and damage cleats and pedals if they aren't what's right for you. If you find yourself liking them, upgrade next season. If not, you haven't wasted much money. Then try another type until you find what suits you, not what someone else likes.
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