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Cervelo R3-SL...appropriate for my needs?

Old 05-24-08, 08:34 AM
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Cervelo R3-SL...appropriate for my needs?

Right now, I have a '07 Specialized Roubaix...and I was looking to upgrade to something a bit lighter, bit stiffer...and maybe a bit more aggressive. I liked the Roubaix so much that I considered the S-Works Roubaix SL...and I've considered a few other frames as well...

Well, I have the chance to get a good deal on a Cervelo R3-SL. I mostly just do solo rides, some rides with friends, some group rides, and recreational rides. I am about to enter my first road race and my first criterium.

What I'm wondering is...is the R3-SL a good all round bike? It seems like it's marketed as a climber and a comfort bike capable of racing (Paris-Roubaix). Is the shape and/or geometry ill suited for all of my varied needs? Would I be better off with a Look frame or a Guru frame or a Cervelo Soloist or something else?

Also...those weird "squoval" tubes...how much of a aerodynamic disadvantage would I be at on the R3-SL? I read an article that said the aero is more important than weight unless you're doing a LOT of climbing.
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Old 05-24-08, 10:44 AM
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that's way too much bike for what you want to do with it. BUT it's (IMO) one of the best bikes out there, so if you have the cash, go for it... Aerodynamics won't be noticeably different from your Roubaix, but you will be able to get into a more aggressive position. The frame will be lighter. Test ride and see if you notice a difference. If all you're looking for is a more aggressive position, I'm sure the correct bar/stem combo exists for your Roubaix.

Criteriums will have crashes, if there are 2 crashes in a standard crit, and 80 guys register, that means there's a 1/40 chance that it'll be you. Are you willing to put a $3500 frame into that risk?
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yeah, maybe race your old bike and save that cherry piece for less risky endeavors.
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i'm all for riding your dream bikes, but your roubaix is barely a year old and a great bike. i'd wait to buy a new frame(for one thing you can bet in the next year or two outboard bb bearings will go the way of squre tapers and everything will be BB-30), unless the deal you're getting is like REALLY good.
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I'd take an R3-SL for SURE!
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I just bought it...should have it in week. My Roubaix is for sale on craigslist, mmba, and weightweenies if anyone is interested.
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Don't sell the roubaix.

I'd say that you should race on the roubaix atleast till you get out of the 5's and probably even then. Unless you can afford a new frame because crap happens. Having a backup bike is a good idea.

Congrats on your purchase though, can't wait for the pics.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
I'd say that you should race on the roubaix atleast till you get out of the 5's and probably even then. Unless you can afford a new frame because crap happens. Having a backup bike is a good idea.
From someone who crashed, then watched another rider pile-drive his Pinarello F4:13 in a 4/5 race, I say +1,000,000.

Basically, if you can't replace it quickly and easily without feeling financial agony, don't race it.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
From someone who crashed, then watched another rider pile-drive his Pinarello F4:13 in a 4/5 race, I say +1,000,000.

Basically, if you can't replace it quickly and easily without feeling financial agony, don't race it.
From someone who wrecked their face and not their bike (training not racing), I wish I could have done the same for my face as well. It would be nice to just be able to put another one on instead of endure a full summer of surgeries. Oh well.

I ride a CAAD9 and the frame is about 400 bucks to replace. I'm a college student, but if I HAD to I could replace it... That's one of the reasons I bought a cannondale, good frame replacement program.

I built a second bike to train on and I've been racing on that so far. 6 races with 4 more to go till I upgrade to the 4's. I'll ride the cannondale on some 4's only road races. I'll save the steel trek for the crits.

Sure the CAAD9 is the better crit bike, but I'd rather not ruin it if I can help it. Keep the bike that's more 'expendable' as a race bike for a bit, it sucks but that's the reality of racing.
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I have a Porsche, and I'm getting ready to do my first autocross. I've read Ferrari's are faster, should I buy the new Enzo?

Some perspective perhaps?
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I wouldn't race the R3-SL, way too valuable and crashes happen.
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I'm racing my Orbea Opal this weekend. Crashes do happen. I'm going to cross my fingers. I don't want to replace it but don't want to race my Seven either [plus the Opal is lighter and better for racing]. I should look into what Orbea's frame replacement program is like.
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Why are crits so much more crash prone than stage races?
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Originally Posted by Banzai
Why are crits so much more crash prone than stage races?
More 90 degree turns.

Couple that to the fact that a lot of people aren't comfortable getting bumped and don't like to hold their line and you get into a bit of a crashfest.
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Originally Posted by Banzai
Why are crits so much more crash prone than stage races?
people go all out for 20-70 mins compared to a road race where it lasts 3 hours +
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If you want the R3 buy it.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Don't sell the roubaix.

I'd say that you should race on the roubaix atleast till you get out of the 5's and probably even then. Unless you can afford a new frame because crap happens. Having a backup bike is a good idea.

Congrats on your purchase though, can't wait for the pics.
hmmm...i was going to sell the roubaix and get a cx and touring bike...but i had the same thought as as you. i'm keeping the roubaix. *sigh* my stupid little home is becoming stuffed with bikes. i need to find a bigger place to live soon. (don't most people say that before starting a family? lol)
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
I have a Porsche, and I'm getting ready to do my first autocross. I've read Ferrari's are faster, should I buy the new Enzo?

Some perspective perhaps?
Sounds like a blast! Autocross events are a pretty safe car adventure Porsches are faster than ferrari'sNow dont hit the timer cone at the end-
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Originally Posted by brianappleby
there are 2 crashes in a standard crit
Where in the hell do you race that there is ONE crash standard, much less two?
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The whole idea that there is one type of race that's more crash-prone is a total myth. Some of the worst crashes I've seen were in wide open RR's.

Courses may differ, but willingness of many lower-cat racers to take stupid risks when racing for a freakin' T-shirt is universal.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
The whole idea that there is one type of race that's more crash-prone is a total myth. Some of the worst crashes I've seen were in wide open RR's.

Courses may differ, but willingness of many lower-cat racers to take stupid risks when racing for a freakin' T-shirt is universal.
Only thing I'd change in your statement is socks/powerbars instead of T-shirts
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