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ravenmore 05-26-08 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by toneb (Post 6760925)
Toned it down just a bit but still looks the same..:(
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...R/radbikep.jpg

Its a great shot and the blown highlights are a minor niggle. I've noticed I have to continuously under expose with digital. It's like slide film almost - better to under expose it a bit. Most digital cameras seem to handle shadow detail better than highlight detail?

Rad - wonder how an hdr shot might look?

I respect Orbeas but I do think the fork is a little awkward looking.

KRhea 05-26-08 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by umd (Post 6761305)
Just like how cyling is about the engine, not the bike, photography is about the eye, not the camera. The camera is a tool--a bad one can hold you back but a good one won't make your pictures any better. I had a 10D and now have a 1D, the improvements in the 1D make the camera more durable and easier to use (especially quickly), but everything that is in the 1D that allows the photographer to take good pictures is present in the 10D.

Some of the minor touches that make the 1D nice most people would never even notice, such as an adjustable diopter in the eyepiece, an integrated eyepiece shutter (to block light from entering during long exposures), extreme weather sealing, dual memory slots (and the ability to shoot to both cards at the same time in the same or different formats), control layout designed for fast adjustment (less intuitive, but easier to change settings quickly with one hand), faster/smarter autofocus, higher frame rate, higher data bandwith/larger internal buffer, etc. None of these things would have helped Rad take a better picture of his bike, but for a pro, they can be extremely useful.

All you really need in a camera to take a nice picture is a good eye, a decent lens, and some degree of control over the exposure. Edit: and good lighting...


Very well said. As a former member of the Nikon Professional staff(15yrs) and now a Canon Pro everything you stated is right on the money.
"Bells and whistles" are fine but it always come down to user input, glass and exposure. Of course nowadays even a 10yr kid can take a great photo if he has the computer skills.
Digital has changed photography for both the very good and the very bad/questionable.

Great shots Rad. Great use of an obviously great studio. Love the red cables.


KRhea

umd 05-26-08 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by KRhea (Post 6763312)
Very well said. As a former member of the Nikon Professional staff(15yrs) and now a Canon Pro everything you stated is right on the money.
"Bells and whistles" are fine but it always come down to user input, glass and exposure. Of course nowadays even a 10yr kid can take a great photo if he has the computer skills.
Digital has changed photography for both the very good and the very bad/questionable.

Composition aside, its just about getting the light to the film/sensor in focus for the correct amout of time. Everything else is secondary. For my profesional work, I determine the exposure and color balance independently and set them on manual. But I live on my fast autofocus, high frame rate, and large buffer. I was still able to get good pictures with my 10D, just not as many :D

dervish 05-29-08 04:17 PM

im way jealous of your bike(s)

mkauffman 05-29-08 04:40 PM

There are very few bikes I find more beautiful then an Orca.

djgonzo007 06-03-08 02:05 AM


Originally Posted by 55/Rad (Post 6755171)

You know, I didn't like the Orca... until I saw this! Nice whip!

AchiLLe..s 06-03-08 08:34 AM

What stem is that?

55/Rad 06-03-08 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by AchiLLe..s (Post 6809469)
What stem is that?

Thomson X-2. 120 mm, 17 degree rise or flat.

roadiejorge 06-03-08 09:26 AM

55/Rad that is an awesome looking bike!
:thumb:

Patriot 06-03-08 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by 55/Rad (Post 6809478)
Thomson X-2. 120 mm, 17 degree rise or flat.

Call me a compulsive (symetry wise), but I always like to find a stem that has an angle that ends up being parallel to the Top Tube.

Of course after riding for years now, and refining my posture and geometry, none of my bikes have that anymore. ;)

55/Rad 06-03-08 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Patriot (Post 6809888)
Call me a compulsive (symetry wise), but I always like to find a stem that has an angle that ends up being parallel to the Top Tube.

Of course after riding for years now, and refining my posture and geometry, none of my bikes have that anymore. ;)

Agreed. In this case, I absolutely had to have the Thomson. But the 10 degree would have put the angle up from the top tube to a greater degree than the 17 is down. Plus I would have had to cut the steerer tube to the headset to get the height correct. In the end, I chose this route.

dgasmd 06-03-08 05:47 PM

Very gorgeous bike. One of the few I find stand out in terms of looks. The fork do look weird for the rest of the bike, and I personally don't like the 2 tone cable and tape job, but those are very personal things. Regardless, the bike looks very very nice. A friend of mine got the new black Orbea TT and that thing is so hot. Of course, he killed the whole thing by putting Shingamo-mangano components in it rather than fit it with Campy. In retrospect, I should have run him over with the car just for that.

In any case, very nice bike.

chinotex 06-03-08 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by 55/Rad (Post 6755257)
I work in the TV production business and the company I work for has a stage full of gear.

This photo was taken from a previous shoot. Todays shoot was with a different lighting setup for the Orca but you might recognize the wall.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/893...tosetupxp0.jpg

The bike was heard saying during the shoot: "Todd, are you not aware that I get farty and bloated with a foamy latte?!?!?!?"
Then it walked off the set. Prima donna.

NickDavid 06-10-08 11:48 AM

wow man, just saw this post... incredible photography.

RoadToad 06-10-08 12:01 PM

beautiful bike, Rad...

RazorWind 06-10-08 12:25 PM

I'm digging the white/black bar tape. I'm tempted to do that to my bike now.

valessi 07-06-08 05:23 PM

That pinarello is the most beautiful road bike i've ever seen. I'll be bidding, but i doubt i'll be able to afford what it will get up to.

Campag4life 07-06-08 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by 55/Rad (Post 6755171)

You have such a good eye Rad. Your pics and taste is second to none.
Another beauty.

mike9903 07-06-08 07:16 PM

Very sweet bike Rad, I missed this thread in my little vacation from bike forums.

Just got my Orca the other day as well, I also chose to add some red to the front end, just in another way!

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...100_1750-1.jpg

Sorry for the crappy pic. . . . . ..

This should become the show us your Orca thread!

mikiz 07-06-08 07:36 PM

this frame is streamlined to perfection...
now let's see if she's got character to go with the stunning looks

George 07-06-08 07:44 PM

Absolutely beautiful, a work of art, thank you.

Raerfani 07-06-08 08:06 PM

Too clean..go out and ride it!

TONYKART125 07-07-08 12:14 AM

haha always postin the dope stuff.

SAJAD 10-28-08 11:40 AM

resale maybe
 
$900?

SAJAD 10-28-08 11:43 AM

it would take another 20 years or so to have or ride such bikes here in my country! huh

JohnKScott 10-28-08 12:29 PM

Wow, that is sweet!

umd 10-28-08 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by SAJAD (Post 7748102)
$900?


Originally Posted by SAJAD (Post 7748123)
it would take another 20 years or so to have or ride such bikes here in my country! huh

wtf?

JoRoFoto 08-18-09 01:45 PM

beautiful shots and Orca.. love the hotlight setup.. always great for commercial type studios..

still waiting to complete a hotlight setup for my portrait uses.. :D

hamanu23 08-06-10 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by 55/Rad (Post 6755171)

Do these dealers accept cars as trade ins and offer financing haha!! I want one too!

Cateye 08-06-10 09:25 AM

I live in the same town as Orbea-USA and there are a lot of Orbea’s here…..I have owned two of them myself………Competitive Cyclist is also a LBS of mine. Orbea’s are very pretty bikes and the Orca is the top dog but bang for your buck there are better bikes out there. If you want a bling bike it is hard to be an Orca. If you want performance for the money it cost to buy an Orca get something else.

I did notice the Thomson seat post…….that was a good thing. Orbea’s come with the worst seat posts in the world. They have a metal bracket that with grooves that lock in with carbon grooves in the seat post. It takes less than a year to wear out the carbon groves and you have to get a new post.


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