Why are LBS prices so high??
When I was taking parts off of my old frame and throwing it on my new frame, It took me about 30-60 min to do everything. It was my first time and I learned everything in the process. The cheapest quote I got from an LBS to do the same thing for me was $175. Lawyers and Doctors charge less.
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Not to mention I bought all the tools I need for all future repairs for less then 50 bucks.
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Experience isn't cheap, troll.
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My LBS wouldn't charge nearly that much.
What's wrong with yours? Since you could do the work yourself, it obviously wasn't a problem... |
Because these people know what they're doing, are fast and good at it, and will return a bike to you in better shape than you gave it to them?
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why the insults? Its a fair question?
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and experince of what? flippin nuts and bolts? I don't think you need a masters degree to unscrew bottom brackets.
Obviously someone is cashing out big time and it's obviously not the bike mechanics cause from what I've seen so far they don't make more than 12 bucks/hr. Good business. |
I suppose people are like this about everything. Say for example gas. Or ****ty overpriced american gas guzzlers.
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Originally Posted by ShadowGray
(Post 6839969)
Because these people know what they're doing, are fast and good at it, and will return a bike to you in better shape than you gave it to them?
To the OP: I just posted about this in a different thread. Knowledge is expensive, and LBS charge for convenience. If it's not worth it to you to have them worry about it, do what you did. Learn to DIY and save the cash. Buying a junker bike and repairing the hell out of it is the cheapest education you can give yourself. |
you purchased a full bicycle toolkit (including a headset installation tool) for less than $50.00?
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Originally Posted by Arrowtalon
(Post 6840007)
For some LBS this is true...
To the OP: I just posted about this in a different thread. Knowledge is expensive, and LBS charge for convenience. If it's not worth it to you to have them worry about it, do what you did. Learn to DIY and save the cash. Buying a junker bike and repairing the hell out of it is the cheapest education you can give yourself. http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...hundercats.jpg |
Originally Posted by Feathers
(Post 6840049)
you purchased a full bicycle toolkit (including a headset installation tool) for less than $50.00?
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Did you face the bottom bracket and the head tubes?
Sure, anyone can swap parts, but I'm pretty sure you didn't do the job properly if you bought all the tools you needed for $50. |
So, the LBS gets their shop space rent free? They also have a myriad of overhead expenses and labor burden costs. Just because a little snot bubbler like you can rebuild a bike on your kitchen table for pocket change, doesn't mean you could stay in business very long if you charged kitchen table prices.
If you can do without the LBS fine, I'm sure they can do without you. |
Originally Posted by deco101
(Post 6839948)
When I was taking parts off of my old frame and throwing it on my new frame, It took me about 30-60 min to do everything. It was my first time and I learned everything in the process. The cheapest quote I got from an LBS to do the same thing for me was $175. Lawyers and Doctors charge less.
Bike shops have to make payments for lease, insurance, employees, etc. And because you have to make payments of your own, you opted not to go through them, wise choice indeed. As for more expensive than a doctor, what's more important, your health? or your bikes? thought so. Lawyers, will be lawyers, you get what you pay for. |
Originally Posted by deco101
(Post 6839948)
When I was taking parts off of my old frame and throwing it on my new frame, It took me about 30-60 min to do everything. It was my first time and I learned everything in the process. The cheapest quote I got from an LBS to do the same thing for me was $175. Lawyers and Doctors charge less.
If the LBS didn't have to make a living and deal with increased shipping, food, fuel, parts, and labor costs, I'm sure they'd have done your work for half that amount. I don't mind paying someone for their expertise, be it the LBS, my accountant, whomever. If the cost is worth it to me I'll budget the money for the expense. But don't begrudge knowledgeable, skilled people for charging what they're worth. It's good business practice. |
Bike shop mechs can charge that much because they will be able to fix the creaking bb and all the other lovely surprises waiting your new build.
Do you have any idea what a torque wrench costs, can you feel how much to tighten a ti bolt holding a carbon seat tube, do you know what bb tool to use for every brand bike (including big box junkers) produced since 1952 (or earlier)? Why not open your own shop and show those guys how it's done? |
Originally Posted by Arrowtalon
(Post 6840007)
For some LBS this is true...
On another visit to the same shop, I sign up for their "professional bike fit" service. $125 upfront fee. They put me on a trainer, had me pedal for a few minutes, take a couple of measurements (plumb-bob, knee angle) and spent all of 10 minutes with me then pushed me out the door. I paid $125 for someone to raise my seat 1cm. Of course when I had a *real* fitting done this spring, I needed the seat moved forward a tad, the stem length and position changed, my cleats repositioned and a few other tweaks. Recently, my girlfriend had her new bike "tuned up" by another local shop before she moved to Washington state. She kept complaining to me how her bike wasn't shifting right, so when i was last up there I noticed that the rear derailleur appeared to be twisted. Upon further inspection, I realized the a-hole at the shop had cross threaded the derailleur bolt into the hanger. I mean, come on. These are the two largest shops near where I live. This is total crap. Not to mention every shop in town wants double for merchandise compared to what I can get it for from a catalog/online. I'm very willing to pay 15-20% more for an item locally, but I'm not stupid enough to pay double for something just for their supposed "service".. |
Originally Posted by Percist
(Post 6840172)
Bike shop mechs can charge that much because they will be able to fix the creaking bb and all the other lovely surprises waiting your new build.
Do you have any idea what a torque wrench costs, can you feel how much to tighten a ti bolt holding a carbon seat tube, do you know what bb tool to use for every brand bike (including big box junkers) produced since 1952 (or earlier)? Why not open your own shop and show those guys how it's done? |
I'm just not the type of a guy who bends over takes it in the rear hole and says thank you afterwards cause the price was so great. I guess I came to the wrong forum.
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Originally Posted by dcbikeguy
(Post 6840050)
Arrowtalon mixing it up with Shadowgray? What is this, the World of Warcraft forum?
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...hundercats.jpg Wrong forum. |
Originally Posted by deco101
(Post 6840262)
I'm just not the type of a guy who bends over takes it in the rear hole.
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Originally Posted by deco101
(Post 6840262)
I'm just not the type of a guy who bends over takes it in the rear hole and says thank you afterwards
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Originally Posted by dcbikeguy
(Post 6840050)
Arrowtalon mixing it up with Shadowgray? What is this, the World of Warcraft forum?
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...hundercats.jpg |
The little machine shop that my LBS has is invaluable. More often than not parts that I bring in aren't *exactly* to spec, but they are when I leave.
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