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Are carbon BH frames made by Giant?

Old 06-09-08, 11:16 AM
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Are carbon BH frames made by Giant?

Just curious, coz I might be buyin' a BH G2 or G3

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Old 06-09-08, 11:17 AM
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They sure look the same, don't they?
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie View Post
Just curious, coz I might be buyin' a BH G2 or G3

thanks
NO
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Old 06-09-08, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by shabbasuraj View Post
NO
He must have a BH.....
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You would be surprised how many companies frames are made in the same factory as giant. Giant I believe owns that particular factory.
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Bh?

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Old 06-09-08, 01:44 PM
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Bh?

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BH is a very old well respected brand. You don't see them much in the US but they are all over Europe I believe.
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Old 06-09-08, 01:48 PM
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For those not familiar with them:

https://www.bhbikes-us.com/history.php
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Originally Posted by vic32amg View Post
You would be surprised how many companies frames are made in the same factory as giant. Giant I believe owns that particular factory.
And from what I have heard- Some Trek frames are made by Giant- Or the factory that Giant owns----Apparantly.

Just to annoy those of you that buy US branded items.
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Giant - You may have ridden a bicycle made by Giant without knowing it! Giant is the world's largest bicycle manufacturer with factories in Taiwan, China, and Europe. Giant, a Taiwanese company started in 1972, manufacturers their own bikes - including the carbon bikes, which is unique in the industry (i.e., most other brands utilize other manufacturers such as Advanced or Martec).

In addition to making their own bikes, Giant also makes, or has made, bikes for many other prominent brands, including Trek, Specialized, Schwinn, and Bianchi. Giant's claim to fame is that they have the most sophisticated and efficient manufacturing facilities in the bicycle industry.

A bit of trivia is that Giant owns 30% of Hodaka, a key Taiwanese supplier for many brands such as Bianchi.5

great article

https://allanti.com/page.cfm?PageID=328
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Weren't Giant making a song and dance about not making anyone elses carbon frames at one point?
They are very good at it.
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Old 06-09-08, 06:25 PM
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Yes,...BH carbon bikes are made by Giant Factories. I have read it somewhere. So is the Colnago CLX frame.

It does not diminish its value though.
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Originally Posted by vic32amg View Post
Giant - You may have ridden a bicycle made by Giant without knowing it! Giant is the world's largest bicycle manufacturer with factories in Taiwan, China, and Europe. Giant, a Taiwanese company started in 1972, manufacturers their own bikes - including the carbon bikes, which is unique in the industry (i.e., most other brands utilize other manufacturers such as Advanced or Martec).

In addition to making their own bikes, Giant also makes, or has made, bikes for many other prominent brands, including Trek, Specialized, Schwinn, and Bianchi. Giant's claim to fame is that they have the most sophisticated and efficient manufacturing facilities in the bicycle industry.

A bit of trivia is that Giant owns 30% of Hodaka, a key Taiwanese supplier for many brands such as Bianchi.5

great article

https://allanti.com/page.cfm?PageID=328
blah blah blah..

BH frames are made in Spain, I have been to the factory.
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from the link I provided earlier:

Today: BH has two large manufacturing and assembly facilities in Vitoria, Spain and one in Portugal, including CNC laser machining producing the highest end fitness equipment in Europe as well as parts for both BMW and Mercedes Benz. BH is one of the largest Spanish bicycle brands, making over 200,000 bicycles per year. BH is supplying AG2R, Auber 93, Vanderkitten and Metro VW of Texas. Now BH’s history, tradition and technology and most importantly, bikes, are available in the US from BH USA in Tempe, AZ.
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Old 06-09-08, 09:15 PM
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from the link I provided earlier:

Today: BH has two large manufacturing and assembly facilities in Vitoria, Spain and one in Portugal, including CNC laser machining producing the highest end fitness equipment in Europe as well as parts for both BMW and Mercedes Benz. BH is one of the largest Spanish bicycle brands, making over 200,000 bicycles per year. BH is supplying AG2R, Auber 93, Vanderkitten and Metro VW of Texas. Now BHs history, tradition and technology and most importantly, bikes, are available in the US from BH USA in Tempe, AZ.
this foolishness is from the website of the manufacturer, of course they want you to believe you are buying a spanish product. Perhaps patrick can chime in. I am positive they are made in not made in spain, perhaps finished like orbea but produced at current date, nope, maybe a decade ago. Trade laws in spain are much different and do not require the entire product to be manufactured in spain to call it a spanish product. It has been known for a long time of Giant and BH relationship.
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Originally Posted by shabbasuraj View Post
blah blah blah..

BH frames are made in Spain, I have been to the factory.
told ya he had a BH.....
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anyone know what high end carbon offerings from major manufacturers carbon frames aren't made in taiwan/china? afaik colnago, pinarello, bmc, cervelo, scott are. i'm also under the impression that look/times are largely made in northern africa. besides cannondale, are trek/specialized still making their high ends in the us?
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Originally Posted by sers View Post
anyone know what high end carbon offerings from major manufacturers carbon frames aren't made in taiwan/china? ?
this article doesn't cover every brand, but does give some insight

https://allanti.com/page.cfm?PageID=328
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Originally Posted by sers View Post
bmc, cervelo, scott are
made in china ............ burn
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no mass produced frame is made here in the states. Zero. yes some carbon frames are but those names are well known for amazing custom work. and often do not produce the numbers compared to the Treks and Specialized.
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Originally Posted by stapfam View Post
And from what I have heard- Some Trek frames are made by Giant- Or the factory that Giant owns----Apparantly.

Just to annoy those of you that buy US branded items.
Giant manufactures 90% of Treks bikes. So really if you think about it, anything thats not OCLV made in Waterloo is out of a Giant Factory.
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Originally Posted by sers View Post
anyone know what high end carbon offerings from major manufacturers carbon frames aren't made in taiwan/china? afaik colnago, pinarello, bmc, cervelo, scott are. i'm also under the impression that look/times are largely made in northern africa. besides cannondale, are trek/specialized still making their high ends in the us?
I don't think Specialized has ever made a bike here have they? They have been manufactured overseas since the very beginning.

Anyway, Trek still makes their OCLV carbon frames in the USA at the factory in Wisconsin.
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Originally Posted by vic32amg View Post
no mass produced frame is made here in the states. Zero. yes some carbon frames are but those names are well known for amazing custom work. and often do not produce the numbers compared to the Treks and Specialized.
Are you saying no carbon fiber mass produced frames or no frames period?
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ATR as far as the website reckons anyway, makes colnago carbon frames (some of them)

https://www.atrgroup.it/eng/clienti.htm#2 it's a bit out of date now.

Not sure where they get the forks from though, they have been a bit ???? wierd maybe for a few years. The new carbon 75 looks good.

but colnago's are mainstream frames I belive.

Giant make the rest of the colnago's.

there are a few small custom builders using carbon in the usa and europe (germany comes to mind)

Actually I think the germans are on top of the game with custom carbon bike parts.

Asia all the way for the mass produced carbon frames.
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Originally Posted by streetlightpoet View Post
Are you saying no carbon fiber mass produced frames or no frames period?
no carbon frames are mass produced here in the states. A limited number, Yes, but mass production when compared to Asian levels, no.
I will find out more on many of these newer bikes at interbike. I believe even the Pinarello Prince is made in Asia. if not it will be soon. We have 2 of these at my shop. 6 months ago people were dying to get they're hand on them, now we can't even get Pinarello to take them back.
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