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Elevating front wheel on a trainer
When I ride on my trainer I elevate my front wheel on a step to put me in a climbing position. The step is 6.5 inches high, any idea what % gradient that equates to?
Thanks. |
What's the length of your bike, wheelbase?
arctan(6.5/(length of bike in in.)) = gradient? |
It won't affect resistance just so you know.
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Gradient % is simply rise/run. 6.5 inches / wheelbase of bike.
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How does elevating your wheel on a trainer change the load or effort necessary to replicate climbing? Seems that increasing the resistance on the trainer would be the way to to go.
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^^^ It doesn't increase the load but it will put your body in a different position, for example to work on standing climbing
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arctan will get his degree angle...
for % grade: (6.5 - <how high off the ground your rear wheel is in in.>)/<wheelbase in in.> * 100% = % grade http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_%28slope%29 |
Originally Posted by 55/Rad
(Post 6876125)
How does elevating your wheel on a trainer change the load or effort necessary to replicate climbing? Seems that increasing the resistance on the trainer would be the way to to go.
It won't change the resistance, but mixed with a trainer with adjustable resistance, the slightly different angle of raising the front wheel seams to make me feel like I am using a slightly diffrent set of muscles. Climbing has alot ot do with adjusting your posture. |
Originally Posted by 55/Rad
(Post 6876125)
How does elevating your wheel on a trainer change the load or effort necessary to replicate climbing? Seems that increasing the resistance on the trainer would be the way to to go.
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It also changes the muscle groups you use when pedaling...
It is an effective technique to work the same muscles you use when climbing... |
Originally Posted by Hammertoe
(Post 6876187)
It also changes the muscle groups you use when pedaling...
It is an effective technique to work the same muscles you use when climbing... Combine it with cranking the resistence, and its about as good as us flatlanders can do. |
Originally Posted by Hammertoe
(Post 6876187)
It also changes the muscle groups you use when pedaling...
It is an effective technique to work the same muscles you use when climbing... |
Originally Posted by asgelle
(Post 6876664)
Elevating the front wheel changes the direction of the gravity vector relative to the bike and rider. If the resistance to pedaling were in the same direction as gravity, there might be some sense to this argument, but since the entire resistance to pedaling comes through the chain, chainrings, and crankarms, and since elevating the front does not change the relative position of any of these, the same muscles will be used to pedal regardless of bicycle orientation.
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Personally i would avid to much climbing or high resistance loads on the turbo. Its not a normal climbing feel, watch you dont get problems with your knees. I dont get Knee problems, but riding alpe duez a few times in a few days on RLV (real life video) on iMagic my knees stated to play up.
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First off thanks to everyone for the responses.
My bikes wheelbase is 38 3/8 inches. Do I divide 6.5 inches by the WB? I know it's not the same as climbing out on the road but I'm off to the French Alps in 2 weeks for some fairly serious climbing. I just figured I would use the trainer when the weather was bad, and put the front wheel up to simulate the position that I'm going to be spending a lot of time in very shortly. |
not 6.5, but 6.5 minus the height of the rear wheel.
Your front wheel is 6.5 in off the ground, but not 6.5 in higher than your back wheel. You need the difference between the two wheels. |
Originally Posted by brianappleby
(Post 6889480)
not 6.5, but 6.5 minus the height of the rear wheel.
Your front wheel is 6.5 in off the ground, but not 6.5 in higher than your back wheel. You need the difference between the two wheels. |
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