Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

2008 SRAM Red ... an honest review

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

2008 SRAM Red ... an honest review

Old 06-20-08, 06:21 PM
  #1  
neospazzy
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
neospazzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 526
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
2008 SRAM Red ... an honest review

Okay. So I have ridden my SRAM Red PF RS2 for about three months now (2-3 times a week, 20-50 miles per day) and I can give an honest review about the gruppo compared to the Dura-Ace 7800 (which is on my other bike).

Design
When I got the gruppo in parts, all I can say is "WOW" ... very nice. The only thing that looked a bit out of place was the color of the brake calipers and the FD. Couldn't SRAM made those black as well (maybe carbon FD like Record)? Oh well. The rear deraillieur and the shifters look expensive. Overall, a very nice looking gruppo.

Shifting
What can I say? The RD downshifts are crisp and instant. It gives it that nice audible "CLICK" as you downshift. RD Upshifting took a bit to get used to, but after several rides, it becomes second nature. With that said, the RD shifting as a whole (both upshifting and downshifting) isn't as "smooth" as Dura-Ace. Especially the FD, Dura-Ace still has the upper hand on this one. While the Red offers the trim functionality on its FD, it isn't as smooth nor as fine-tuned like the DA. The lever are carbon, which is nice, but to me it feels a little "plasticky" and "cheap" while the DA shifters feels more substantial and durable.

Crankset
First thing I noticed was how smooth the pedaling was. It was a definite improvement over the DA, and I assume the ceramic BB got a lot to do with it. I definitely felt the lower resistance on the Red in terms of pedaling. One thing though, the teeth on the chainrings seems to wear a bit faster compared to the DA. Already some of the teeth on the large chainrings have shrunk about 40-50%. Is this normal? I had the DA for almost a year and I ride it a lot more and it doesn't show any signs of wear. Hmm. Gotta check back on this one.

Braking
I chucked the stock pads aside and replaced them with KoolStop salmon pads so I can't give an opinion about SRAM pads. From what I have read, the pads are the same from Force and Rival. The important thing is that the brakes work and my bike stops. I think it has to do more with the quality of the pads than anything. I also have the same KoolStops on the DA and I love them. No difference between the two in my opinion.

Conclusion
As I have mentioned before, the carbon shifters feel plasticky and cheap, but I think it is because I am not used to them yet. I never rode a bike with Campy Record, but I am assuming that the levers on those feel the same since they, too, are made of carbon as well. I do, however, like the smaller brake levers compared to the gigantic DA levers. All in all, the gruppo is a nice change and yes, it is different. If I had to choose between the two, however, I'd think the DA has a slight edge due to the buttery shifts and much better FD.

Once the DA 7900 gets released, I think I may end up selling the Red ASSUMING that getting rid of the FD trim will make it all better. SRAM got rid of the FD Trim in Force and Rival and it got people mad, thus bringing the trim option to the Red. I kinda like the FD trim on the DA, but we will see once the 7900 hits the market.
neospazzy is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 06:32 PM
  #2  
kwrides
Senior Member
 
kwrides's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 3,198

Bikes: 2007 Orbea Onix, 2007 Windsor The Hour, 2008 Kona Jake

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for the review. Nice job.
kwrides is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 06:32 PM
  #3  
Snuffleupagus
Aut Vincere Aut Mori
 
Snuffleupagus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 4,166

Bikes: Irish Cycles Tir na Nog, Jack Kane Team Racing, Fuji Aloha 1.0, GT Karakoram, Motobecane Fly Team

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Hrm, when you say better front derailleur, what do you mean?

I HATE the way Shimano FDs respond, and that is a primary reason I switched to Campagnolo. Campy FDs have four distinct adjustment points, two on each chainring. Dura Ace/Ultegra/105 never was as crisp as Centaur or Chorus on the FD. The RD performance is identical as far as I'm concerned.

I've got a set of 2008 Red team issue stuff on order, and the FD issue you're talking about is the first I've heard. Please elaborate.
Snuffleupagus is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 06:48 PM
  #4  
tekhna
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,410
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus View Post
Hrm, when you say better front derailleur, what do you mean?

I HATE the way Shimano FDs respond, and that is a primary reason I switched to Campagnolo. Campy FDs have four distinct adjustment points, two on each chainring. Dura Ace/Ultegra/105 never was as crisp as Centaur or Chorus on the FD. The RD performance is identical as far as I'm concerned.

I've got a set of 2008 Red team issue stuff on order, and the FD issue you're talking about is the first I've heard. Please elaborate.
I feel the same way about Shimano FDs, but I have to say, after two years on Campy I'm not particularly enchanted with the RD shifting. I can never quite get it tuned right, no matter if I do it myself, or the bevy of mechanics I've had look at it. It's noisy, and while not sluggish in responding, it's a pretty hard shift, sometimes to the point of knocking my cadence off a stroke or two. I may go to SRAM for my next bike.

Edit-The UT cranksets however are fantastic, and I agree with you about the Campy FDs as well. I like how adjustable they are.
tekhna is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 07:14 PM
  #5  
JBS103
James
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Fairfield County, CT
Posts: 484

Bikes: 2005 S-Works Roubaix Ultegra

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Someone I know had issues with his Red FD on his Parlee. He attributed the issues he had to worn down chainring pins and ramps (when he went with Red, he kept his FSA crank). Since switching back to his Force FD, he says the problems have disappeared.

I'm not sure if I completely buy his issue, though. He was using one of those (seemingly) flimsy Parlee FD clamps with the braze-on Red FD. The Force FD has a clamp. That's where I think the discrepancy is personally.

YMMV.
JBS103 is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 07:44 PM
  #6  
Cdy291
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,753
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The Sram Red FD cage is made from Titanium, while Rival And Force and Aluminum. I have no idea but I could be that you would get better performance not going with the Red FD.
Cdy291 is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 08:52 PM
  #7  
umd
Banned
 
umd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 28,387

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by JBS103 View Post
Someone I know had issues with his Red FD on his Parlee. He attributed the issues he had to worn down chainring pins and ramps (when he went with Red, he kept his FSA crank). Since switching back to his Force FD, he says the problems have disappeared.

I'm not sure if I completely buy his issue, though. He was using one of those (seemingly) flimsy Parlee FD clamps with the braze-on Red FD. The Force FD has a clamp. That's where I think the discrepancy is personally.

YMMV.
The Ti cage on the Red FD is very flexy. The Parlee clamp is also very flexy. The two combined... lets just say I have shifting issues in front as well. Although, I will say that I just replaced my RD cable and was reminded of just how amazing the rear shifting is.
umd is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 09:11 PM
  #8  
vic32amg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Gilbert AZ
Posts: 1,321

Bikes: Cervelo S5 SRAM Red -

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I hear from many customer and racers that the SRAM red cranks are garbage and flexy. To the point in which many use Rival or Shimano. Also I have a few complain about the outside cage of the FD being too flexy.
vic32amg is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 09:14 PM
  #9  
umd
Banned
 
umd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 28,387

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by vic32amg View Post
I hear from many customer and racers that the SRAM red cranks are garbage and flexy. To the point in which many use Rival or Shimano. Also I have a few complain about the outside cage of the FD being too flexy.
Rival cranks were all over the bikes otherwise equipped with Red at the Tour of California. I have the Specialized S-works cranks so I have no firsthand experience with them.
umd is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 09:19 PM
  #10  
Hocam
Ho-Jahm
 
Hocam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Manchester, NH
Posts: 4,228
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I really doubt you can tell the difference between ceramic and steel bearings in your cranks (ie. placebo), but nice review.
Hocam is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 09:27 PM
  #11  
kesa101
Senior Member
 
kesa101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: in the land of nippon...
Posts: 290
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i have red, and i do like it, but the drivechain is so noisy! it makes me feel slow, like the metal is grinding, even though i can see on the speedometer that i`m going well. it`s annoying, and even though i changed to a DA chain it continues....

as for the crank, no problems.

brakes are fantastic.

shifting? my 105 equipped bike is smoother, and i prefer the feel on that to the red, but red is crisp. all in all pretty good set, but had i paid full price and not the PF groupbuy price i think i might be annoyed at not having gone for DA.....
kesa101 is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 09:29 PM
  #12  
Fat Boy
Wheelsuck
 
Fat Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,158
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have a mostly Force group on my bike. I haven't noticed flexy cranks, but I'm not particularly in tune to that type of stuff, and I'm not that big.

As far as Front Derailler goes, I use a DA FD with an otherwise Force group and it works great. I had heard that their were issues with the SRAM FD's.
Fat Boy is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 09:32 PM
  #13  
umd
Banned
 
umd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 28,387

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Fat Boy View Post
As far as Front Derailler goes, I use a DA FD with an otherwise Force group and it works great. I had heard that their were issues with the SRAM FD's.
I should have taken a hint when UT_Dude sold me his Red FD because he was going to use DA instead
umd is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 09:36 PM
  #14  
operator
cab horn
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 28,354

Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 11 Posts
Originally Posted by neo****zy View Post
Okay. So I have ridden my SRAM Red PF RS2 for about three months now (2-3 times a week, 20-50 miles per day) and I can give an honest review about the gruppo compared to the Dura-Ace 7800 (which is on my other bike).

Design
When I got the gruppo in parts, all I can say is "WOW" ... very nice. The only thing that looked a bit out of place was the color of the brake calipers and the FD. Couldn't SRAM made those black as well (maybe carbon FD like Record)? Oh well. The rear deraillieur and the shifters look expensive. Overall, a very nice looking gruppo.

Shifting
What can I say? The RD downshifts are crisp and instant. It gives it that nice audible "CLICK" as you downshift. RD Upshifting took a bit to get used to, but after several rides, it becomes second nature. With that said, the RD shifting as a whole (both upshifting and downshifting) isn't as "smooth" as Dura-Ace. Especially the FD, Dura-Ace still has the upper hand on this one. While the Red offers the trim functionality on its FD, it isn't as smooth nor as fine-tuned like the DA. The lever are carbon, which is nice, but to me it feels a little "plasticky" and "cheap" while the DA shifters feels more substantial and durable.

Crankset
First thing I noticed was how smooth the pedaling was. It was a definite improvement over the DA, and I assume the ceramic BB got a lot to do with it. I definitely felt the lower resistance on the Red in terms of pedaling. One thing though, the teeth on the chainrings seems to wear a bit faster compared to the DA. Already some of the teeth on the large chainrings have shrunk about 40-50%. Is this normal? I had the DA for almost a year and I ride it a lot more and it doesn't show any signs of wear. Hmm. Gotta check back on this one.

Braking
I chucked the stock pads aside and replaced them with KoolStop salmon pads so I can't give an opinion about SRAM pads. From what I have read, the pads are the same from Force and Rival. The important thing is that the brakes work and my bike stops. I think it has to do more with the quality of the pads than anything. I also have the same KoolStops on the DA and I love them. No difference between the two in my opinion.

Conclusion
As I have mentioned before, the carbon shifters feel plasticky and cheap, but I think it is because I am not used to them yet. I never rode a bike with Campy Record, but I am assuming that the levers on those feel the same since they, too, are made of carbon as well. I do, however, like the smaller brake levers compared to the gigantic DA levers. All in all, the gruppo is a nice change and yes, it is different. If I had to choose between the two, however, I'd think the DA has a slight edge due to the buttery shifts and much better FD.

Once the DA 7900 gets released, I think I may end up selling the Red ASSUMING that getting rid of the FD trim will make it all better. SRAM got rid of the FD Trim in Force and Rival and it got people mad, thus bringing the trim option to the Red. I kinda like the FD trim on the DA, but we will see once the 7900 hits the market.
And then we subject this review to a double blind test instead and realize...
operator is offline  
Old 06-20-08, 09:51 PM
  #15  
Jose Perez
Cheese State Poseur
 
Jose Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Waukesha, WI
Posts: 515

Bikes: Cervelo R3-SL, Serotta Colorado II, Trek Equinox 9.0, Bianchi San Jose, Pake Urban 6-Speed (grocery getter)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by neo****zy View Post
Shifting
The lever are carbon, which is nice, but to me it feels a little "plasticky" and "cheap" while the DA shifters feels more substantial and durable.
The way I described it to someone is that they feel "fragile" compared to Shimano. With my Ultegra brifters I felt like I could crank them with a crowbar and they would be fine, the Red shifters on the other hand feel fragile enough that I could break them if I wanted to. I have no doubt that they are strong enough to do their job and I've not heard of a single person having damaged them, just that they "feel" like I could damage them if I wasn't gentle.
Jose Perez is offline  
Old 06-22-08, 11:02 AM
  #16  
neospazzy
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
neospazzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 526
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus View Post
Hrm, when you say better front derailleur, what do you mean?

I HATE the way Shimano FDs respond, and that is a primary reason I switched to Campagnolo. Campy FDs have four distinct adjustment points, two on each chainring. Dura Ace/Ultegra/105 never was as crisp as Centaur or Chorus on the FD. The RD performance is identical as far as I'm concerned.

I've got a set of 2008 Red team issue stuff on order, and the FD issue you're talking about is the first I've heard. Please elaborate.
In terms of the FD, going from the smaller chainring to the larger one, the DA is noticibly smoother than the Red. The Red, at least on mine, isn't as instant as the DA when going from small to large. Going from large to small, both DA and Red is about the same. That is what I meant be better FD shifting on the DA.

As I have mentioned before, I never tried any of the Campy stuff so I can't compare Red nor the DA to Campy. I am curious, though. Maybe I will build up a third bike on Campy Record and see. Man this is getting expensive!

"Honey, I think we may have to pull the girls out of dance class ..."
neospazzy is offline  
Old 06-22-08, 11:31 AM
  #17  
felt1
Idiot
 
felt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Corona, ca
Posts: 753

Bikes: Kirklee(custom), GT GTR Ultra, Salsa Mamasita

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Hocam View Post
I really doubt you can tell the difference between ceramic and steel bearings in your cranks (ie. placebo), but nice review.
I can't. Feel the same to me.

Originally Posted by kesa101 View Post
i have red, and i do like it, but the drivechain is so noisy!
I'm working on the same problem and found switching from the DA chain too the Forte chain helped. This would do the exact opposite to my old DA system. DA is way better in the noise department.

Originally Posted by Fat Boy View Post
As far as Front Derailler goes, I use a DA FD with an otherwise Force group and it works great.
This is becoming the norm for people that came from DA.
I also found the DA brakes to be so much better I was willing to mix match my bike and add grams for the greater stopping power. I probably could have just switched pads but I sold the brakes before my dumb ass thought of that. O well
felt1 is offline  
Old 06-22-08, 11:55 AM
  #18  
markyore
markyore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NH
Posts: 669

Bikes: Specailized s-works E5

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
On my new bike I put on Red shifters and RD. Shifting is very positive and crisp but not as smooth as Dura Ace. Also, DA *feels* nicer but thats a personal opinion.

I'm running a DA front derailleur so I can't comment on the Red FD.

Also I'm running a KMC X10sl chain and it isnt overly noisy.

Definately I think the best parts of Red are the shifters and the RD

BTW.....the "click points" mentioned above which llow for threading the derailleur are not a function of the derailleur but the shifters, in general derailleurs are slaves to the shifters, no cage flex id another thing altogether.
markyore is offline  
Old 06-22-08, 06:58 PM
  #19  
BHBiker
CERVEL-LIZED!
 
BHBiker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,696
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I suppose a gruppo as expensive as the RED shouldn't need to borrow DA's FD or so and so...it should be just as good if not better than DA or REcord out of the box without needenig any mixing of parts but it looks like its short to some degree.


Meanwhile I wil stick to DA...or even Record while SRAM perfects their experiment further. cheers!
BHBiker is offline  
Old 06-22-08, 07:03 PM
  #20  
Cdy291
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,753
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I say that Sram makes a darn good rear derailure, easier to adjust and all. And there external bearing bottom brackets have less drag than Shimano, but thats about it.
Cdy291 is offline  
Old 06-22-08, 09:01 PM
  #21  
WheresWaldo
Ride it like you stole it
 
WheresWaldo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Union County, NC
Posts: 4,895

Bikes: 2013 Cannondale EVO Ultegra Di2, Pedal Force Aeroblade, Rue Tandem

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 84 Post(s)
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by markyore View Post
On my new bike I put on Red shifters and RD. Shifting is very positive and crisp but not as smooth as Dura Ace. Also, DA *feels* nicer but thats a personal opinion.

I'm running a DA front derailleur so I can't comment on the Red FD.

Also I'm running a KMC X10sl chain and it isnt overly noisy.

Definately I think the best parts of Red are the shifters and the RD

BTW.....the "click points" mentioned above which llow for threading the derailleur are not a function of the derailleur but the shifters, in general derailleurs are slaves to the shifters, no cage flex id another thing altogether.
The statement above leads me to believe that you are not using a Red Powerdome Cassette. The problem is not really the chain, it is that Powerdome acting like a megaphone to amplify the chain noise.
__________________
"Never use your face as a brake pad" - Jake Watson
The Reloutionaries @ Shapeways
WheresWaldo is offline  
Old 06-22-08, 09:10 PM
  #22  
ultraman6970
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,859
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Campagnolo record shifters levers arent plasticky as u think. They are carbon but are pretty stiff. Havent used shimano in centuris so i cant compare that much but i bought a bike time ago that had 105 in it and the shifting was ok but not as campagnolo record, u cant compare them but i must say it was ok. A lot better than sora
ultraman6970 is offline  
Old 06-22-08, 09:26 PM
  #23  
markyore
markyore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NH
Posts: 669

Bikes: Specailized s-works E5

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BHBiker View Post
I suppose a gruppo as expensive as the RED shouldn't need to borrow DA's FD or so and so...it should be just as good if not better than DA or REcord out of the box without needenig any mixing of parts but it looks like its short to some degree.


Meanwhile I wil stick to DA...or even Record while SRAM perfects their experiment further. cheers!
Actually, the main reason I went with the DA FD was for cost savings. I had a used DA derailleur and thought what the hell I could save a few bucks by selling the RED FD, no other reason other than maybe the color of the red FD just doesn't do it for me.

As for the later post I do use the powerdome cassette and don't find it too noisy! Although I guess the dome construction could potentially amplify any noise in the drivetrain. I'll switch to a wheel with a DA cassette to see if I notice a defference and report back.
markyore is offline  
Old 06-22-08, 09:28 PM
  #24  
UT_Dude
Texas Fight!
 
UT_Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 2,023
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Haha, I promise, I wasn't out to get you! I just prefer Shimano's front derailleur and cranks. I've never had a problem with my front shifting with that combo (even with the SRAM shifters). The SRAM Brakes, and Rear shifting, however, are nothing short of spectacular!

Originally Posted by umd View Post
I should have taken a hint when UT_Dude sold me his Red FD because he was going to use DA instead
__________________
T E X A S F I G H T !
https://www.chriscollins.org
UT_Dude is offline  
Old 06-22-08, 09:29 PM
  #25  
UT_Dude
Texas Fight!
 
UT_Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 2,023
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Oh... And the DA front derailleur is more sparkly
__________________
T E X A S F I G H T !
https://www.chriscollins.org
UT_Dude is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.