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Old 06-26-08, 01:48 PM
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My research report on BF members.

Originally Posted by roubaix-ron
OK this isn't a high modulus 10r weave like the S-works. But it is still over a $2K bike.
Originally Posted by dcbikeguy
Typical poor person response. Keep working hard fella, you live in the land of opportunity.
The end.

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Why would you fall down like that if you knew you were goint to crack your frameament?
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Originally Posted by eriksbliss
Not odd at all, given that:

1) in Wisconsin, you have (Great Lakes) sand; and,

2) common histories of the phrase track it to early 1900s midwestern United States, where it started as noting that someone didn't have "enough sense to pound sand in a rat hole."
Sandy beaches in Wisconsin? Only when the community brings in the sand. Our shores are typically rocky. Now, in Michigan and Indiana, they've got some nice beaches and great big sand dunes!
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A hint: When your Lynskey shows up, try not falling on it sideways. The Ti might end up sucking too.
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Surely caused by a couple of CF particles exploding.....did you hear the pop?

Originally Posted by icyclist
Hmmmm...........it would appear concrete curbs actually suck, too! Someone got off his CF bike yesterday and leaned it against the curb in front of my house. Within seconds the concrete collapsed. I'm going to see if the city will agree to a warranty replacement of my curb.

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Originally Posted by DrPete
A hint: When your Lynskey shows up, try not falling on it sideways. The Ti might end up sucking too.
i saw a litespeed open up like a coke can the other day....so ...it's too late. Ti sucks too.
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wanna sell it? pm me if you are interested.
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Originally Posted by Heyduke
Man, I would have kept this to myself.

Or as is said, "it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt".
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Or as is said, "it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt".
NO, speak up all you fools! I could use the company.
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OP - I'm a veteran of 1 broken steel frame (race crash), and 2 broken carbon frames (both cervelos, one a manufacturer defect and one another unfortunate race crash). I would hope these options have been recommended in the 10 pages of replies, but here's what I would recommend.

1 - take your broken bike back to the authorized dealer from whom you purchased, explain that you crashed it (which you did) and ask about the crash replacement program from specialized. You should be able to purchase a replacement frame at a discount and have the shop swap your components from your broken rig to the replacement. Have them put a new chain or at least clean that drivetrain.

If you didnt buy from an authorized dealer, shame on you, but then you've got to call specialized on your own and discuss the same.

2 - if option 1 doesnt work, look up Calfee and call them to arrange sending photos and getting a quote for repair. You'll need to strip your frame and send to them and I'm not sure of the turnaround on repairs, but it's an option to explore.

Good luck. It's very frustrating when you eff up your bike, it costs you coin, and lose good riding season.
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3. cry and howl while crawling on the LBS showroom floor.You,ll leave with a new frame.
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the way i see it.......you all owe me a debt of gratitude for giving you the material to entertain yourselves. so you're welcome.

my situation is all resloved thanks.

oh yeah....and the vast majority of you are useless tools.
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Old 07-01-08, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by photonick
My next frame is definitely going to be made out of moon rocks.
Mine is going to be made out of dumbass...because at least judging by the OP, it's increadibly resilient.

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Originally Posted by roubaix-ron
my situation is all resolved thanks.
I'm glad to hear it. For what its worth, I believe all the talk about road bikes being fragile and you just mistreated your bike is BS. Modern road bikes made of any material are incredibly strong. Carbon fiber is tough stuff when manufactured without defects. Its used in all kinds of moving vehicles like airplanes. I sincerely believe your incident was due to a manufacturing defect, not because it was carbon fiber or that you mistreated the bike or landed "wrong".

I have a bike with exactly the same frame you have. I made a downhill turn at speed that I misjudged and went down hard on the frame (I weigh 230) at exactly the same spot you did. It didn't just bang the frame. The bike and I slid down the hill and it ground metal off parts of the skewer. There was no damage to the frame.

I hope your resolution involved getting a warranty replacement. I think the manufacturer is definitely liable. If these frames were so fragile, we would hear about people being maimed and killed due to frame failure on a daily basis.

Happy riding!

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Originally Posted by roubaix-ron
the way i see it.......you all owe me a debt of gratitude for giving you the material to entertain yourselves. so you're welcome.

my situation is all resloved thanks.

oh yeah....and the vast majority of you are useless tools.
Said by the guy who falls on his bike against a curb and makes the determination that carbon is what sucks, not himself.
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OP—that's probably just a scratch in the clear coat. Perhaps this has already been recommended: can you dig your fingernails into it? Or better yet, try tapping that stay with an allen wrench, then tap the other stay... they should sound the same.
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Originally Posted by roubaix-ron
the way i see it.......you all owe me a debt of gratitude for giving you the material to entertain yourselves. so you're welcome.
I'll admit it, this was pretty entertaining. Not as good as if I could have been a fly on the wall in the bike shop, but hey, the internet isn't perfect.

Originally Posted by roubaix-ron
my situation is all resloved thanks.
Care to tell us what happened?

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oh yeah....and the vast majority of you are useless tools.
We love you too.
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Originally Posted by roubaix-ron
the way i see it.......you all owe me a debt of gratitude for giving you the material to entertain yourselves. so you're welcome.

my situation is all resloved thanks.

oh yeah....and the vast majority of you are useless tools.
You started well, but ruined it at the last sentence.
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So what was the resolution?

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You started well, but ruined it at the last sentence.
I guess Roubaix-ron isn't going to give us the satisfaction of hearing about his resolution..so does carbon suck..does Specialized suck? Inquiring minds.....well..you know..

I for one have over 2,000 miles on my Roubaix..have knocked it over stupidly a couple of times..never hurt the frame...had a friend drive into a garage forgetting about the Madone on the roof...no frame damage..just bar, stem, brifter...

Still trying to figure out how the OP completely flew off of the bike and landed in the grass while the bike balanced until he was clear of it, and then fell onto the curb...

Oh well..this thread was entertaining...but Ron..tell us how you got things resolved!


Roubaix-Tom...I'll take over the name if you don't want it anymore.!
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Originally Posted by roubaix-ron
the way i see it.......you all owe me a debt of gratitude for giving you the material to entertain yourselves. so you're welcome.

my situation is all resloved thanks.

oh yeah....and the vast majority of you are useless tools.
i'm sorry, who are you?
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Originally Posted by roubaix-ron
OK. I've got a Speciliazed roubaix Comp with 650 miles on it. Never crashed. Today in the middle of my club ride I was stopped waiting for the rest of the group at the half way point. I was exhausted from the climb and couldn't clip out fast enough and fell over on my right (landed in the grass). Didn't think anything of it until I get home and I'm wiping down the bike and I notice that the rear seat stay on the drive side has a 4 inch crack near the dropout. Unfriggin' believable. Carbon fiber crap. I am disgusted. OK this isn't a high modulus 10r weave like the S-works. But it is still over a $2K bike. What really has me freaked out is that at the end of the ride I was bombing down a couple hills at 38mph (fast for me). I am lucky that the thing didn't just fall apart on me. So for all of you carbon lover's who get pissed off every time someone posts something negative about your cherished frame material......go pound salt. Say whatever you want but I have first hand experience with how fragile a material it is.

My Lynskey Ti is on the way.
I crashed into a rock hard enough (23+ mph) to throw me off the bike and tweak my wheel bad enough that I couldn't ride it and nearly had to replace the wheel.

Frame was fine. Trek OCLV.
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I've crashed my OCLV a couple of times myself. Damned thing won't die.
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So who thinks we should email Lynskey and warn them what a doozie of a customer they have coming their way?
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Originally Posted by roubaix-ron
my situation is all resloved thanks.
Yes I noticed you got rid of that ******** signature


......but getting back to the bike.......whats happening with that?
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