Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Don't tell me carbon fiber doesn't suck....

Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Don't tell me carbon fiber doesn't suck....

Old 06-26-08, 01:48 PM
  #226  
bryroth
Senior Member
 
bryroth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 856
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My research report on BF members.

Originally Posted by roubaix-ron View Post
OK this isn't a high modulus 10r weave like the S-works. But it is still over a $2K bike.
Originally Posted by dcbikeguy View Post
Typical poor person response. Keep working hard fella, you live in the land of opportunity.
The end.

Last edited by bryroth; 06-26-08 at 01:56 PM.
bryroth is offline  
Old 06-26-08, 01:55 PM
  #227  
Mt.Hoodlum
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 199

Bikes: Windsor Wellington 2.0 (flame away)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Why would you fall down like that if you knew you were goint to crack your frameament?
Mt.Hoodlum is offline  
Old 06-26-08, 04:07 PM
  #228  
Sage23
It is what it is
 
Sage23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Shaw (SE WI)
Posts: 574

Bikes: Trek 1500 and Trek 950

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by eriksbliss View Post
Not odd at all, given that:

1) in Wisconsin, you have (Great Lakes) sand; and,

2) common histories of the phrase track it to early 1900s midwestern United States, where it started as noting that someone didn't have "enough sense to pound sand in a rat hole."
Sandy beaches in Wisconsin? Only when the community brings in the sand. Our shores are typically rocky. Now, in Michigan and Indiana, they've got some nice beaches and great big sand dunes!
Sage23 is offline  
Old 06-26-08, 04:44 PM
  #229  
DrPete 
Dirt-riding heretic
 
DrPete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 17,413

Bikes: Lynskey R230/Red, Blue Triad SL/Red, Cannondale Scalpel 3/X9

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
A hint: When your Lynskey shows up, try not falling on it sideways. The Ti might end up sucking too.
__________________
"Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."
DrPete is offline  
Old 06-26-08, 05:33 PM
  #230  
cricket1116
Everybody Loves a Fat Guy
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Laredo, Tx.
Posts: 177

Bikes: 2015 Felt B14, 2017 Lynskey Helix Sport

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Surely caused by a couple of CF particles exploding.....did you hear the pop?

Originally Posted by icyclist View Post
Hmmmm...........it would appear concrete curbs actually suck, too! Someone got off his CF bike yesterday and leaned it against the curb in front of my house. Within seconds the concrete collapsed. I'm going to see if the city will agree to a warranty replacement of my curb.

cricket1116 is offline  
Old 06-26-08, 05:35 PM
  #231  
Crash716
i got nothing.
 
Crash716's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Cali Forn NI A (SoCal)
Posts: 5,723

Bikes: 13 BH G6 with SRAM Red

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
A hint: When your Lynskey shows up, try not falling on it sideways. The Ti might end up sucking too.
i saw a litespeed open up like a coke can the other day....so ...it's too late. Ti sucks too.
__________________
14 days...
Crash716 is offline  
Old 06-26-08, 05:51 PM
  #232  
jkizzle
Senior Member
 
jkizzle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lexington KY
Posts: 874

Bikes: 1970s or 80s concord pacer, 2007 dawes roadbike, 2005 raleigh supercourse

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
wanna sell it? pm me if you are interested.
jkizzle is offline  
Old 06-26-08, 07:49 PM
  #233  
lowrights
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 16
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Heyduke View Post
Man, I would have kept this to myself.

Or as is said, "it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt".
lowrights is offline  
Old 06-26-08, 08:25 PM
  #234  
DScott
It's ALL base...
 
DScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6,716
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by lowrights View Post
Or as is said, "it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt".
NO, speak up all you fools! I could use the company.
DScott is offline  
Old 06-26-08, 08:37 PM
  #235  
MDcatV
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,840
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
OP - I'm a veteran of 1 broken steel frame (race crash), and 2 broken carbon frames (both cervelos, one a manufacturer defect and one another unfortunate race crash). I would hope these options have been recommended in the 10 pages of replies, but here's what I would recommend.

1 - take your broken bike back to the authorized dealer from whom you purchased, explain that you crashed it (which you did) and ask about the crash replacement program from specialized. You should be able to purchase a replacement frame at a discount and have the shop swap your components from your broken rig to the replacement. Have them put a new chain or at least clean that drivetrain.

If you didnt buy from an authorized dealer, shame on you, but then you've got to call specialized on your own and discuss the same.

2 - if option 1 doesnt work, look up Calfee and call them to arrange sending photos and getting a quote for repair. You'll need to strip your frame and send to them and I'm not sure of the turnaround on repairs, but it's an option to explore.

Good luck. It's very frustrating when you eff up your bike, it costs you coin, and lose good riding season.
MDcatV is offline  
Old 06-26-08, 08:49 PM
  #236  
spry
location:northern Ohio
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,589
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
3. cry and howl while crawling on the LBS showroom floor.You,ll leave with a new frame.
spry is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 08:47 AM
  #237  
roubaix-ron
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 71
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
the way i see it.......you all owe me a debt of gratitude for giving you the material to entertain yourselves. so you're welcome.

my situation is all resloved thanks.

oh yeah....and the vast majority of you are useless tools.
roubaix-ron is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 09:06 AM
  #238  
Bob Ross
your god hates me
 
Bob Ross's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,861

Bikes: 2018 Cannondale CAADX 105 SE, 2016 Richard Sachs, 2010 Carl Strong, 2006 Cannondale Synapse

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 434 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by photonick View Post
My next frame is definitely going to be made out of moon rocks.
Mine is going to be made out of dumbass...because at least judging by the OP, it's increadibly resilient.

Last edited by Bob Ross; 07-01-08 at 09:39 AM.
Bob Ross is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 11:15 AM
  #239  
wrobertdavis
Senior Member
 
wrobertdavis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 884

Bikes: Cervelo R3, Surly LHT, Miyata Triplecross setup for commuting, Miyata 914, Univega Sprint

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by roubaix-ron View Post
my situation is all resolved thanks.
I'm glad to hear it. For what its worth, I believe all the talk about road bikes being fragile and you just mistreated your bike is BS. Modern road bikes made of any material are incredibly strong. Carbon fiber is tough stuff when manufactured without defects. Its used in all kinds of moving vehicles like airplanes. I sincerely believe your incident was due to a manufacturing defect, not because it was carbon fiber or that you mistreated the bike or landed "wrong".

I have a bike with exactly the same frame you have. I made a downhill turn at speed that I misjudged and went down hard on the frame (I weigh 230) at exactly the same spot you did. It didn't just bang the frame. The bike and I slid down the hill and it ground metal off parts of the skewer. There was no damage to the frame.

I hope your resolution involved getting a warranty replacement. I think the manufacturer is definitely liable. If these frames were so fragile, we would hear about people being maimed and killed due to frame failure on a daily basis.

Happy riding!

Bob
wrobertdavis is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 11:28 AM
  #240  
nachomc
Senior Member
 
nachomc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 1,259

Bikes: Epic and Tarmac

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by roubaix-ron View Post
the way i see it.......you all owe me a debt of gratitude for giving you the material to entertain yourselves. so you're welcome.

my situation is all resloved thanks.

oh yeah....and the vast majority of you are useless tools.
Said by the guy who falls on his bike against a curb and makes the determination that carbon is what sucks, not himself.
nachomc is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 11:48 AM
  #241  
steaktaco
bannned
 
steaktaco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: philadelphia
Posts: 2,228

Bikes: black bike, white bike, blue bike, yellow bike, silver bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
OP—that's probably just a scratch in the clear coat. Perhaps this has already been recommended: can you dig your fingernails into it? Or better yet, try tapping that stay with an allen wrench, then tap the other stay... they should sound the same.
__________________
steaktaco.com <-- poohoopsies.

steaktaco is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 12:01 PM
  #242  
Landgolier
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,849
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by roubaix-ron View Post
the way i see it.......you all owe me a debt of gratitude for giving you the material to entertain yourselves. so you're welcome.
I'll admit it, this was pretty entertaining. Not as good as if I could have been a fly on the wall in the bike shop, but hey, the internet isn't perfect.

Originally Posted by roubaix-ron View Post
my situation is all resloved thanks.
Care to tell us what happened?

Originally Posted by roubaix-ron View Post
oh yeah....and the vast majority of you are useless tools.
We love you too.
Landgolier is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 12:24 PM
  #243  
Reynolds 
Passista
 
Reynolds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,620

Bikes: 1998 Pinarello Asolo, 1992 KHS Montaña pro, 1980 Raleigh DL-1, IGH Hybrid, IGH Utility

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 462 Post(s)
Liked 24 Times in 20 Posts
Originally Posted by roubaix-ron View Post
the way i see it.......you all owe me a debt of gratitude for giving you the material to entertain yourselves. so you're welcome.

my situation is all resloved thanks.

oh yeah....and the vast majority of you are useless tools.
You started well, but ruined it at the last sentence.
Reynolds is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 03:52 PM
  #244  
TomRides
Senior Member
 
TomRides's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 260

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix Comp, Devinci Santiago, Fisher Sugar 3+, Bianchi Ocelot

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
So what was the resolution?

Originally Posted by Reynolds View Post
You started well, but ruined it at the last sentence.
I guess Roubaix-ron isn't going to give us the satisfaction of hearing about his resolution..so does carbon suck..does Specialized suck? Inquiring minds.....well..you know..

I for one have over 2,000 miles on my Roubaix..have knocked it over stupidly a couple of times..never hurt the frame...had a friend drive into a garage forgetting about the Madone on the roof...no frame damage..just bar, stem, brifter...

Still trying to figure out how the OP completely flew off of the bike and landed in the grass while the bike balanced until he was clear of it, and then fell onto the curb...

Oh well..this thread was entertaining...but Ron..tell us how you got things resolved!


Roubaix-Tom...I'll take over the name if you don't want it anymore.!
TomRides is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 04:42 PM
  #245  
botto 
.
 
botto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 40,369
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by roubaix-ron View Post
the way i see it.......you all owe me a debt of gratitude for giving you the material to entertain yourselves. so you're welcome.

my situation is all resloved thanks.

oh yeah....and the vast majority of you are useless tools.
i'm sorry, who are you?
botto is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 04:48 PM
  #246  
GuitarWizard
Used to be a climber..
 
GuitarWizard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 6,844

Bikes: Ridley Fenix SL, Niner RLT-9 Steel, Diamond Back Haanjo Trail, Fairdale Goodship

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by roubaix-ron View Post
OK. I've got a Speciliazed roubaix Comp with 650 miles on it. Never crashed. Today in the middle of my club ride I was stopped waiting for the rest of the group at the half way point. I was exhausted from the climb and couldn't clip out fast enough and fell over on my right (landed in the grass). Didn't think anything of it until I get home and I'm wiping down the bike and I notice that the rear seat stay on the drive side has a 4 inch crack near the dropout. Unfriggin' believable. Carbon fiber crap. I am disgusted. OK this isn't a high modulus 10r weave like the S-works. But it is still over a $2K bike. What really has me freaked out is that at the end of the ride I was bombing down a couple hills at 38mph (fast for me). I am lucky that the thing didn't just fall apart on me. So for all of you carbon lover's who get pissed off every time someone posts something negative about your cherished frame material......go pound salt. Say whatever you want but I have first hand experience with how fragile a material it is.

My Lynskey Ti is on the way.
I crashed into a rock hard enough (23+ mph) to throw me off the bike and tweak my wheel bad enough that I couldn't ride it and nearly had to replace the wheel.

Frame was fine. Trek OCLV.
GuitarWizard is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 05:13 PM
  #247  
caloso
Packfodding 3
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 38,032

Bikes: Ridley Excalibur, Gazelle Champion Mondial, On-One Pompino, Specialized Rock Hopper

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1818 Post(s)
Liked 139 Times in 85 Posts
I've crashed my OCLV a couple of times myself. Damned thing won't die.
caloso is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 05:22 PM
  #248  
Landgolier
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,849
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
So who thinks we should email Lynskey and warn them what a doozie of a customer they have coming their way?
Landgolier is offline  
Old 07-01-08, 06:02 PM
  #249  
markyore
markyore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NH
Posts: 669

Bikes: Specailized s-works E5

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by roubaix-ron View Post
my situation is all resloved thanks.
Yes I noticed you got rid of that ******** signature


......but getting back to the bike.......whats happening with that?
markyore is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Birthday
Introductions
2
09-16-12 06:02 PM
info
Foo
2
03-28-09 12:25 AM
aliensporebomb
Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets
1
07-07-08 01:51 PM
shabbasuraj
Road Cycling
0
06-06-08 12:54 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.