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Disneyland Fatty Wagons-- A Cat-1's perspective

Old 06-30-08, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
Oh, and kudude...psst...Americans are fat.
There is absolutely no doubt about it...

I'm amazed at everyone who think that I'm not. Go out in public and just look around, it has gotten depressing.
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Originally Posted by timmyquest View Post
There is absolutely no doubt about it...

I'm amazed at everyone who think that I'm not. Go out in public and just look around, it has gotten depressing.
depends on where you go out in public. Recently, flying home from DEN, the line to TUL was full of fatties, the line to SFO wasn't. Also, how old are you? Have you noticed a trend since WWII?

I know Americans are on average less fit than the rest of the world, but I'm playing devil's advocate here. So much of what is spewed on BF is indoctrinated dogma. Also, everyone likes to be "Better". Cyclists are on average going to be healthier than the general public, so unfit people are a fun, fair target to this crowd. This is sort of like a smoke-filled room where the old white men talk about how women aren't fit for politics. Who is going to defend them?

I also prefer to be less rational an eloquent -- everyone just skips those replies anyway. Gotta throw a little troll in there.
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Old 06-30-08, 11:33 PM
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http://www.americansportsdata.com/obesitystats.asp

ok. americans are fat.
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Originally Posted by kudude View Post
depends on where you go out in public. Recently, flying home from DEN, the line to TUL was full of fatties, the line to SFO wasn't. Also, how old are you? Have you noticed a trend since WWII?

I know Americans are on average less fit than the rest of the world, but I'm playing devil's advocate here. So much of what is spewed on BF is indoctrinated dogma. Also, everyone likes to be "Better". Cyclists are on average going to be healthier than the general public, so unfit people are a fun, fair target to this crowd. This is sort of like a smoke-filled room where the old white men talk about how women aren't fit for politics. Who is going to defend them?

I also prefer to be less rational an eloquent -- everyone just skips those replies anyway. Gotta throw a little troll in there.

The problem is that American's view on what is and what isn't fat has become skewed as well. Which is why i said i'm surprised at the amount of people who tell me that i'm not fat. Don't make me bust out the belly photo's.
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"Dont judge a book by its cover".... sometimes life's lessons are simple.
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If it helps, Mexico and a handful of European countries (Germany, Czech Republic, Finland, Greece, can't remember where else) are now just as fat or fatter than the US according to some studies. WOOHOO!
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"Dont judge a book by its cover".... sometimes life's lessons are simple.
Did you get the memo? This is what we do here at BF. Judging. Books. Covers.
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Originally Posted by Booger View Post
If it helps, Mexico and a handful of European countries (Germany, Czech Republic, Finland, Greece, can't remember where else) are now just as fat or fatter than the US according to some studies. WOOHOO!
It's gone global
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Originally Posted by kudude View Post
depends on where you go out in public.
This is so true. We occasionally get the "Oh no people/kids are getting SOOO obese!!!" local news reports, and they all seem to have the same stock footage of some poor women wandering the streets of San Francisco. You look at the kids around here and you just don't see it. Watching the local public junior high graduation I'd say the average dress size for the class was a size 2, and there wasn't a single young man or lady that would qualify for the stock footage. My older daughter goes to UCLA, and on parents weekend I was mentioning I don't see any fat students. She said there probably weren't any fat students, as to get to classes from dorms or off campus you have to walk uphill, both ways. On the various campus tours the year before the number of obese parents or prospective students hovered around 0. (There might have been one somewhere, but these were walking tours, and I don't remember being held up.) So for your fairly well off, highly educated population obesity isn't really a problem.

Then a few weeks ago we went to Disneyland for a family trip. Oh my goodness. The local news crews should get down there and update their stock footage. But, to be fair, Disneyland attracks families from all over, including those families with disabled members. Caring for a very sick family member can take away all of your exercise time. Certainly when sitting at the local Cancer center looking at caregivers, there were quite a few that had gotten extremely out of shape. But their time is not their own, so you can't blame them.
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Originally Posted by charmed View Post
This is so true. We occasionally get the "Oh no people/kids are getting SOOO obese!!!" local news reports, and they all seem to have the same stock footage of some poor women wandering the streets of San Francisco. You look at the kids around here and you just don't see it. Watching the local public junior high graduation I'd say the average dress size for the class was a size 2, and there wasn't a single young man or lady that would qualify for the stock footage. My older daughter goes to UCLA, and on parents weekend I was mentioning I don't see any fat students. She said there probably weren't any fat students, as to get to classes from dorms or off campus you have to walk uphill, both ways. On the various campus tours the year before the number of obese parents or prospective students hovered around 0. (There might have been one somewhere, but these were walking tours, and I don't remember being held up.) So for your fairly well off, highly educated population obesity isn't really a problem.

Then a few weeks ago we went to Disneyland for a family trip. Oh my goodness. The local news crews should get down there and update their stock footage. But, to be fair, Disneyland attracks families from all over, including those families with disabled members. Caring for a very sick family member can take away all of your exercise time. Certainly when sitting at the local Cancer center looking at caregivers, there were quite a few that had gotten extremely out of shape. But their time is not their own, so you can't blame them.
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Originally Posted by ragboy View Post
incorrect.

affluent != highly educated
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Originally Posted by kudude View Post
incorrect.

affluent != highly educated
Yes, the affluent and highly educated have nothing in common

Not to mention the fact you rolled over like a cheap mistress a few posts ago.
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Originally Posted by Booger View Post
If it helps, Mexico and a handful of European countries (Germany, Czech Republic, Finland, Greece, can't remember where else) are now just as fat or fatter than the US according to some studies. WOOHOO!
Even in Japan... (sorry if this has already been posted).
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/hea...at.busters.cnn
Originally Posted by http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/24/1420217&from=rss
Japan Imposes "Fine On Fat"
Posted by timothy on Tuesday June 24, @10:35AM
from the fat-man-vs.-the-state dept.
An anonymous reader writes "A recently-introduced law in Japan requires all businesses to have mandatory obesity checks (video link) for all their employees and employees' family members over the age of 40, CNN reports. If the employee or family member is deemed obese, and does not lose the extra fat soon, their employer faces large fines. The legislated upper limit for the waistline is 33.5" for men, and 35.5" for women. Should America adopt universal health insurance, could we live to see the same kind of individual health regulations imposed on us by the government? By comparison, the average waistline in America in 2005 was 39 inches for men, 37 inches for women."
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Originally Posted by ragboy View Post
It is obvious that obesity has huge correlations with social factors such as income and education, despite whatever study the USA Today touts.



The UW study reported in the Seattle PI confirms what our eyes tell us. Communities with higher income and education have much less obesity.

Tony Bellvue's obesity problem is dwarfed by other areas where obesity runs rampant.
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Originally Posted by ragboy View Post
Yes, the affluent and highly educated have nothing in common

Not to mention the fact you rolled over like a cheap mistress a few posts ago.
i felt more like a cheap *****.

edit: apparently you can't use that word. good to know.
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Originally Posted by kudude View Post
i felt more like a cheap *****.

edit: apparently you can't use that word. good to know.
We need a George Carlin memorial "7 words you can't say on bikeforums list" somewhere off site.
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Originally Posted by Ritterview View Post
It is obvious that obesity has huge correlations with social factors such as income and education, despite whatever study the USA Today touts.



The UW study reported in the Seattle PI confirms what our eyes tell us. Communities with higher income and education have much less obesity.

Tony Bellvue's obesity problem is dwarfed by other areas where obesity runs rampant.
Agreed. There are more fat poor people than fat rich people. The bottom line remains: both classes are overly fat. America is fat. It wasn't a study just "touted by USA Today" -- it was a study completed by the University of Iowa College of Public Health and results released nationally.
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Originally Posted by kudude View Post
i felt more like a cheap *****.

edit: apparently you can't use that word. good to know.
That was my first word of choice as well
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Originally Posted by Landgolier View Post
We need a George Carlin memorial "77 words you can't say on bikeforums list" somewhere off site.
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Two recent internet things come to mind when reading this thread...

(1) Disneyland Upgrades Small World to Handle Increased Passenger Weight
Link = http://articles.latimes.com/2007/nov...fi-disneyland9

(2) See image




WTF?
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From the Small World article:
Of course, this is a world of fantasy and the perfect place to forget about that diet for a few hours. So when somebody gets booted from the boat, Lutz said, Disneyland ride operators make sure the guests don’t leave disappointed: They hand them a food ticket.
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