My crank arm fell off while riding
Has anyone ever had this happen before? I've only been riding for 3 years and I have never experienced this before. My bike is only a year old, is it how my lbs put it together? Someone tell me yes, I want a good reason to go back and complain, their service is horrible.
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To your questions:
1. No, not personally. 2. Yes, probably your fault. Or a mfg defect on some part, but more likely your fault through poor maintenance. Which is shocking, I think. I am glad you were not injured when this happened. |
have you ever tensioned your crank? After 300 miles when you purchased your bike you should have locked it down. If not, your crank came loose and you have probably stripped the square taper of the bb and the crank. You may need to replace the whole lot. Examine it carefully.
I know, I did the same thing. If you stripped it replace the bb and crank. |
After a year I would say the blame is solidly in your corner. It was probably creaking for some time before it fell off. If it's an Octalink/ISIS bottom bracket, it's probably fine.
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Originally Posted by slim_77
(Post 6989989)
have you ever tensioned your crank? After 300 miles when you purchased your bike you should have locked it down. If not, your crank came loose and you have probably stripped the square taper of the bb and the crank. You may need to replace the whole lot. Examine it carefully.
I know, I did the same thing. If you stripped it replace the bb and crank. |
Seriously, I have over a 1000 miles on my bike and have never done anything to the crank. what should I do?
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Tighten the bolt that attaches it to the BB.
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Lock it down and carry a tool with you on every ride! Mine fell off (last year) on my way to work...
If it comes loose again, well, hey... |
Originally Posted by slim_77
(Post 6990111)
Lock it down and carry a tool with you on every ride! Mine fell off (last year) on my way to work...
If it comes loose again, well, hey... |
Ok I will go check it right now.
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it happened to me. What kind of crank/bb do you have?
Mine is a shimano/outboard kind. I built the bike.....so my fault. The dustcap came off at some point, and it slowly worked it's way off. If I didn't hang my bike "BF style" w/ the crankset facing me I might have caught it. I also might have caught it if I ever inspected my bike pre-ride. |
What kind of cranks do you have? At some point you're going to have to wrench on your bike. You have to maintain your motor -- why not your bike?
Depending on the crank you may have to get some Loctite. |
kudude - that dust cap is not a dust cap, it's used to tension the cranks on the bearings while the pinch bolts are loose. Then you tighten the pinch bolts which locks the tension bolt in place.
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Originally Posted by 62vette
(Post 6990401)
kudude - that dust cap is not a dust cap, it's used to tension the cranks on the bearings while the pinch bolts are loose. Then you tighten the pinch bolts which locks the tension bolt in place.
Somehow while learning to work on cars I never lit anything on fire. I learn many things the hard way. Anyway -- bearing preload is important, just like in the headset. You are correct. Putting together the bike the first time, well, anyway. Now I know. edit: now that I think about it, that second line isn't really true. It just happened to be on purpose. |
I have installed probably a half-dozen cranksets on various bikes that I've built up over the years. I always install the bottom bracket and the crank-arm fixing bolts with a torque wrench. Not one has ever come loose. In my experience, if they are installed correctly, they will stay tight. If they are installed incorrectly, then yes, they will come off.
I'm not the strongest guy, but there's no way I could get anything close to proper torque on a crank-arm fixing bolt with standard T-handle allen wrenches or one of those little multi-tool things. Basically, if you install the bolts to "yeah, that's tight" -- then yes, I can believe the crank-arm will fall off at some point. Basically, if I got a new bike, and the crank arm fell off, I'd be seriously PO'd at whoever did the installation. Most likely either the crank arm itself or the BB spindle is damaged. Should the OP have gone in for some 300-mile checkup? Sure. I'm not convinced that would have fixed anything -- i.e., if the LBS did a "yep, that feels tight" installation in the first place, they're probably going to do a "yep, that still feels tight" basic check during the 300-mile checkup as well. I think the lion's share of the blame goes to whoever did the installation in the first place. |
Originally Posted by KevinF
(Post 6990538)
Basically, if I got a new bike, and the crank arm fell off, I'd be seriously PO'd at whoever did the installation. Most likely either the crank arm itself or the BB spindle is damaged. Should the OP have gone in for some 300-mile checkup? Sure. I'm not convinced that would have fixed anything -- i.e., if the LBS did a "yep, that feels tight" installation in the first place, they're probably going to do a "yep, that still feels tight" basic check during the 300-mile checkup as well. I think the lion's share of the blame goes to whoever did the installation in the first place. I don't like anyone else to work on my bikes, so having bought a new road bike this year, I actually loosened and retightened everything to specified torque so it is all my responsibility. Unfortunately, you can't just check torque by tightening and seeing if your wrench clicks because of momentum. Unfortunately, those who don't do their own maintenance are at the mercy of their mechanics for things like this. OP, I would gripe to the shop where you bought the bike. |
Yes, it happened to me last winter. Less than 50 miles on my new bike, cranking up hill and the left crank arm came off still attached to my shoe. I slowed down then fell over. The mechanic at my LBS had not tightened the pinch bolt. The crank arm was damaged and replaced by the LBS along with many apologies!
Mud |
Ive had it happen, lack of tightening on my part.
Sometimes you can save them by really torqueing them down of they ddint come completely off. |
At least is wan't a WHEEL !! http://emoticons4u.com/happy/469.gif
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Looked at the thread title, and thought: "Another Who-Can-I-Blame thread".
As far as I am aware, bikes are box-delivered with the cranks installed by the factory. It might be a warranty job, so be nice to the bike shop before blaming THEM. Otherwise, check your bike over before you ride it. |
Originally Posted by KevinF
(Post 6990538)
I have installed probably a half-dozen cranksets on various bikes that I've built up over the years. I always install the bottom bracket and the crank-arm fixing bolts with a torque wrench. Not one has ever come loose. In my experience, if they are installed correctly, they will stay tight. If they are installed incorrectly, then yes, they will come off.
I'm not the strongest guy, but there's no way I could get anything close to proper torque on a crank-arm fixing bolt with standard T-handle allen wrenches or one of those little multi-tool things. Basically, if you install the bolts to "yeah, that's tight" -- then yes, I can believe the crank-arm will fall off at some point. Basically, if I got a new bike, and the crank arm fell off, I'd be seriously PO'd at whoever did the installation. Most likely either the crank arm itself or the BB spindle is damaged. Should the OP have gone in for some 300-mile checkup? Sure. I'm not convinced that would have fixed anything -- i.e., if the LBS did a "yep, that feels tight" installation in the first place, they're probably going to do a "yep, that still feels tight" basic check during the 300-mile checkup as well. I think the lion's share of the blame goes to whoever did the installation in the first place. The OP didn't maintain his bike. Simple as that. To expect everything to be tight and properly fitting after a YEAR is ridiculous. |
Ezek, was this a square taper crank, octalink/isis, or something with external bearings?
Back when dinosaurs wandered the earth and people with actual engineering backgrounds discussed bikes on the internet, there was a lot of discussion about square taper cranks and how the crank tends to squirm up the spindle, leaving no pressure on the bolt, which can then back out, and then the crank can fall off. The moral of the story is that for a square taper crank, unless the bolt can be loosened by hand you don't want to keep tightening it repeatedly as you end up chasing the crank up the spindle until the steel spindle ultimately prevails over the aluminum crank. |
I had a square taper Campy come loose on me a few months ago. Fortunately, I noticed it was loose and got off the bike right away. My wife rode home and got the car. I got lucky and didn't damage the crank arm but usually that means death for the crank arm.
That was the 1st time in nearly 30 years of doing my own crank maintenance that I didn't get it right. It seems to me that the Campy square taper (Centaur anyways) requires alot more torque to properly seat on the spindle than in years past. (Or maybe I'm just getting old :( ) :beer: |
I dont know if I ever want to do my own crank maintanence.
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Originally Posted by Ezek
(Post 6989915)
Has anyone ever had this happen before? . . .
Nekura mentioned LokTite. Any drawbacks to using a dab? |
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