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Old 07-06-08, 07:28 PM
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Did I make a mistake?

Hey guys, So I finally did it! I bought a bike, I was going to buy one off craigslist but I thought I should get fitted so I could have the best bike for me. I went down to my LBS and told them that I haven't really biked in a while and I needed something to get me started in road cycling. The guy seemed to know his stuff and pointed me towards a Giant FCR1 for around $849. I was kind of discouraged by the lack of drops on the bike, but he said I should first get started on this and after a few months, I can get it converted to drops, and brakes replaced( I'm not sure how that process works, or if it is feasible with this bike, is it?)

Also, the pedals are for clipless shoes, so right now I'm slipping off the pedals a lot because of my lack of clip shoes. The bike feels great, and is super fast. I just want to make sure I got a bike that can become a road bike after awhile. I looked online and they said it was a "fitness" bike, but I've read some posts that say it has the same frame as the OCR. I'm just kind of lost on if I got the right bike for my goals. Also, I see that the rear derailleur is 105, but it isn't 105 throughout, so i'm kind of confused in that respect. I just want to make sure I made the right decision since it's a lot of money(For a poor college student) Thanks guys!

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Old 07-06-08, 07:37 PM
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Hmm, possibly - if you wanted a road bike and he talked you into a hybrid.

Sure you should be able to switch out the brakes, I suspect that this would make a heavier road bike than one that had been designed for that purpose.

What worries me most though is that the salesguy let you go with clipless pedals but no shoes, I don't know the model involved, but it doesn't sound like these are the Shimano pedals that are half platform/half SPD. I'd be asking him for some platforms to remedy your problems pronto - they shouldn't cost them anything.
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If you know you're going to want a drop bar bike some day, you should take it back and get one. It'll cost you at least $200-300 to make it a drop bar bike, more than the cost of the OCR.
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Old 07-06-08, 07:56 PM
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Sounds like you may have wanted an OCR instead. What components does this FCR have?
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Take it back and get an OCR2. They should cost about the same.

Also, do not leave the shop until you can safely pedal, either with toe clips or cycling shoes.

Your salesman should be ashamed of himself.
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Old 07-06-08, 07:58 PM
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I'm a poor college student too but somehow I convinced my LBS salesman to sell me an $1100 OCR1 for 950. I'm assuming your components are 105/tiagra. If this is the case its not a terrible deal.
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Take it back and get an OCR2. They should cost about the same.

Also, do not leave the shop until you can safely pedal, either with toe clips or cycling shoes.

Your salesman should be ashamed of himself.
Somehow I believe there is a mistake. I just bought on OCR1 with the same pedals M505 or something but they also came with platform clip-ins.
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Mistake: If you wanted a bike with drops, buy a bike with drops. The conversion is cost prohibitive. Forget about it. You end up replacing the stem, shifters, brake levers, and maybe even the brakes themselves, not to mention the rear derrailleur, which may or may not be compatible with your new shifters. And then you have a bike full of kludges, rather than something designed to work right from the beginning.

Mistake: Biking with street shoes and clipless pedals. You're going to hurt yourself that way.

Mistake: Allowing the salesperson to talk you out of what you want, probably because the hybrid more closely fit your budget.
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Old 07-06-08, 08:02 PM
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Where do they train these salesmen? Years ago when buying a mountain bike the at the LBS (HDK) the sales guy tried to sell me a hybrid. I told him I have two road bikes. One full touring and one low end race bike. Still told me I needed a hybrid after I described the off road riding I intended to do. So I left and bought a mountain bike at another LBS. Turn the clock forward 12 years. I was buying a new CF road bike. The shops are still pushing hybrids. But at least this time I did my homework and knew the models I wanted to test ride.

In their defense most people only really need a hybrid. A good shop will let you talk and listen. Then get you to test ride at least 3 bikes.
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Hey guys, Thanks for the fast replies. I'm feeling a little bummed now. I looked at my receipt and found out all sales are final. I'm going to give them a call or shoot them an e-mail to see if I can exchange my bike since I haven't even ridden it yet(I doubt this will work). Anyway, thanks for the quick replies guys.
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Old 07-06-08, 08:09 PM
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Yeah, sorry bro. I would try selling it for what you paid for, maybe a little less if you have to then start over again.
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Old 07-06-08, 08:26 PM
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Yeah, I just posted it to my local craigslist. What a bummer. Thanks again guys. Maybe I'll get an e-mail back from the LBS, saying I can exchange my bike! I said that I would exchange for a higher price bike, or similar price. Hopefully I get some good news in my inbox tomorrow.
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Old 07-06-08, 08:30 PM
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They should exchange it for you. Most LBS have a return policy. If not, tell them you're going to smear their name all over this board and it will live in infamy on teh internets. Don't ride it.
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mcpowley I doesn't matter man. Because its not gonna be "right" for you. Your first bike is NEVER right. It will teach you what is right for you though. So that your second bike IS closer to what you need.....but its still gonna be wrong. on your third bike IF YOU GET LUCKY you'll find the "right" machine for you.

Usually you cant upgrade your first bike either because the frame is not perfect one way or the other. So even if you got a bike with racing geometry you would have to buy a new one down the road.

I would recommend you DONT upgrade this bike. instead ride the **** out of it, put an obscene amount of miles on it, and get in killer riding shape with it. Then take what you learned, and buy a racing bike.....but don't be surprised when that time comes you find you actually would prefer a touring set up or something different. whatever you choose will be close to what you actually need.

You bought a very fine bike IMO for a first bike. The more upright geometry will allow you to log a much larger amount of miles that an aggressive racing geometry. I started on a racing bike and I think I should have started on something a little more upright. On the other side of the spectrum theres even guys that started on mtb's.

I think the guy might have been Preparing you for the long haul, it is a good machine to get started on. Or maybe he was just pushing what he had. Either way its a good first bike. I think its good and in hindsight if it where me in your position I would keep it.

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No...the bike is still new, never ridden. They may not give you a refund if all sales are final, but they should have no problem with an exchange for something you like more. Even if its less money, they want you to spend more money there in the future as a return customer.

You're in college so you are young and you should not have a problem with road bike geometry and drop bars. Get yourself a road bike if that's what you want. But converting this bike to a road bike is bad advice. You would have to by STI shifters, probably a short cage derailleur and new cranks. You would lose out on that deal for sure. Does it even have a road wheelset? You might have to replace that too.
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Hey guys, I just got an e-mail back from the owner of the shop, he said I would personally help me find the bicycle for me. Very cordial. Thanks for your advice guys, I really appreciate it. Now I just have to figure out what to go with in terms of bikes. They stock giant, and they can order specialized(I think)Any suggestions? Thanks again!
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An OCR could be a good bet -- especially if they stock them, you might get a deal on last years model (if they have any in stock) that could really get you a nice bike. For specialized, you're looking at an Allez, but if they have to order, you probably won't get much off MSRP, and specialized has been pinching back the specs of the Allez range for the last year or two.
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Thanks for the advice. Is there anything I should make sure the bike has? I know there is different componentry, but I was wondering if there is a huge difference between sora and tiagra, or if the componentry wouldn't really matter at my price point <$1000. Thanks!
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Don't know much about the Giant range, I'm a Specialized rider/fan myself. Most posts on this topic rate Tiagra>Sora I think. Probably a search on Tiagra or Sora in the road forum will give you some pointers.

Very happy to hear the owner is giving you what you want -- enjoy!
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Thanks for the advice. Is there anything I should make sure the bike has? I know there is different componentry, but I was wondering if there is a huge difference between sora and tiagra, or if the componentry wouldn't really matter at my price point <$1000. Thanks!
The biggest jump in componentry in my opinion is between sora and tiagra, mainly because tiagra uses brifters (the second lever) while sora uses thumb triggers (little button on the hoods). The brifters are way better to shift with, so I would not go any lower than tiagra. Between tiagra and 105, you're opening up a can of worms in this forum.
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See...it's threads like this that make me wonder why we always steer people religiously towards the LBS. This goes to my recent conviction that the overwhelming majority of LBSs are not very good. They don't actually fit people (which is why we keep telling people to go there) and they often talk them into stuff that they don't need.

I've found in most cases it takes an experienced cyclist to pry good help out of an LBS. The good ones are a rarity.
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Originally Posted by mcpowley View Post
Hey guys, I just got an e-mail back from the owner of the shop, he said I would personally help me find the bicycle for me. Very cordial. Thanks for your advice guys, I really appreciate it. Now I just have to figure out what to go with in terms of bikes. They stock giant, and they can order specialized(I think)Any suggestions? Thanks again!
Well, at least we've got that now.

But geez, it took how much info from this board to pry good help out of them?
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See...it's threads like this that make me wonder why we always steer people religiously towards the LBS. This goes to my recent conviction that the overwhelming majority of LBSs are not very good. They don't actually fit people (which is why we keep telling people to go there) and they often talk them into stuff that they don't need.

I've found in most cases it takes an experienced cyclist to pry good help out of an LBS. The good ones are a rarity.
I must agree. I've been to, I believe, six LBS in my area, all with the intent of purchasing a bike, and none of them would even take the time to fit me or anything. Two even tried to explain to inveigle me into buying a horribly priced entry-level lacking brifters(OCR 3?). Eventually, I was able to test a Bianchi Via Nirone 7, get a decent sizing projection for myself, and ordered one online. -.-''
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See...it's threads like this that make me wonder why we always steer people religiously towards the LBS. This goes to my recent conviction that the overwhelming majority of LBSs are not very good. They don't actually fit people (which is why we keep telling people to go there) and they often talk them into stuff that they don't need.

I've found in most cases it takes an experienced cyclist to pry good help out of an LBS. The good ones are a rarity.
True...most LBSs are worthless turds on the retail landscape.

I think the reason we often send newbs to LBSs for answers is because sometimes it's like trying to play doctor (for bike and/or person) over the internet....not that kind of "play doctor" you sickos.

Unfortunately many often have a better chance of actually getting answers that are meaningful here.
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Well, at least we've got that now.

But geez, it took how much info from this board to pry good help out of them?
you're making assumptions...
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