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A question for the ladies....

Old 07-07-08, 10:30 AM
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A question for the ladies....

I'm asking this for my wife, who is still a new rider. We swapped her Bontrager WSD saddle for a Specialized Dolce gel, and that helped a bit. Still, she is experiencing a great deal of pressure at the nose of the saddle, which makes riding distances quite uncomfortable. Any recommendations? I have the saddle positioned like I would my own, level with the ground. Would it help to tilt the nose down, or would that cause her to roll forward on the saddle. Tilted slighly up? Would that shift weight to the sit bones? Any help would be most greatly appreciated. She really wants to ride, but pain is not fun right now.

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Old 07-07-08, 10:34 AM
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MY wife was having the same problem. She tried the Selle SMP, and so far (about 500 miles , including Bike Virginia for 5 days) finds it much more comfortable.
https://www.teamcyclist.com/store/Sel...P8377C1180.cfm
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Old 07-07-08, 10:45 AM
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Make sure she's sitting on the back of the saddle.

My wife has a Fizik Alliante, she likes it.
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Old 07-07-08, 10:47 AM
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go get a professional fitting.

just my 2 cents.
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Old 07-07-08, 10:49 AM
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I would believe if you tilted the nose down it "may" help as it will move more of the pressure off the front. What it will do is apply more weight/pressure to her arms and hands. Tilting it nose up will cause more pressure, so keeping it level is optimal.

I'd check out the SMP as suggested above. It has a sloping nose and may help out, and would be even better if your local LBS had one you could test ride.
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Did you get her sized for the Dolce or just grab one. We got my wife sized and I think the Dolce is the saddle we got her...she said it was a huge improvement. Her's is leveland we have done a fitting to get the reach and everything rigt on the bike...could her reach be too long causing her to get out on the nose of the saddle or leav forward in some manner?
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I ride a Sell San Marco Aspide Glamour. And also, try moving her saddle forward some, that might help.
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I just told my wife to HTFU....

Actually, what worked better was to take her to a bike shop where they had a woman employee and let her pick the saddle. She seems most comfortable with a very slight downward tilt that most people might not notice.
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My wife complained of the same thing. She was riding a fairly soft gel seat and wearing baggy shorts with light pads. She switched to a firmer seat and top line Pearl Izumi shorts and the problem disappeared.
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Old 07-07-08, 12:54 PM
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I will offer my professional services to measure the sit-bones of most women to insure a proper seat fit.
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I ride a Sell San Marco Aspide Glamour. And also, try moving her saddle forward some, that might help.
Need an extra one? My wife hated the Aspide Glamour. Replaced it with a Fizik Vitesse carbon. Just goes to show seats are very much a matter of fit, and personal preference.
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Old 07-07-08, 01:09 PM
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Most woman ride road bikes that are set up for male riders, even though women and men are built differently (praise God).

Measure the distance from the rear of the saddle to the front of the stem. That is the "cockpit length". Then, buy a new stem that will put the highest portion of the bars level with the top of the saddle and provide a cockpit length that is one inch shorter than the current measurement.

Raising the bars and having a shorter cockpit will rotate your wife's pelvis back into an upright position so that her weight is on the widest portion of her "sit bones" and NOT on the "soft bits" between the sit bones. She needs a saddle that is wide, flat from side to side, and VERY firm. Such saddles support the sitbones, and do not allow the sit bones to sink into the padding. Specialized, WTB, and Terry make fine saddles of this type...but get the firmest one you can find.
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston View Post
... She needs a saddle that is wide, flat from side to side, and VERY firm. Such saddles support the sitbones, and do not allow the sit bones to sink into the padding. Specialized, WTB, and Terry make fine saddles of this type...but get the firmest one you can find.
Sounds also like a Brooks might work, too. Wallingford Bike (wallbike.com) has a great 6 mos try out period on Brooks.
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Old 07-07-08, 01:48 PM
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We had an awful time getting a saddle my wife could ride for over 30 minutes. Terry came to the rescue with the Butterfly Ti.

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Old 07-07-08, 03:25 PM
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I am female and have been having the exact same issue on my 6-month-old bike. Is this due to the fact that these bikes we are riding are designed for men (with longer arms relative to leg length?) My bike is a flat-bar, not a "real" road bike but it seems like this is a common problem.

I will have to try one of the recommended saddles on this thread! Thanks all, BF to the rescue!
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Old 07-07-08, 04:23 PM
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We did her fit for the Dolce saddle at a bike shop, after telling them about the problem. It's better, but not great. We've had one fitting, but we're about to do another I think. A good while back I was fit by the same person who fit my wife. Was fit again recently by another person and my position seems much much better. Thanks for all of the suggestions. We may try a slight forward tilt as well.
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Old 07-07-08, 04:49 PM
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Echoing alanbikehouston, it might not be the saddle but the reach. Too long of a reach can put too much weight on the front parts and not enough on the sit-bones. I had this problem on a series of too-big bikes before I got one that fit.

See if you can try a shorter stem and/or get a professional bike fit. Be patient and experiment. The difference between the right tilt and the wrong one can be very very small.

I like the Terry Butterfly (= Sella Italia Lady Gel Flow) as well, but everyone is different. Terry has a try-out policy too, if you order from them you can return w/in 30 days for a different saddle.
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Old 07-08-08, 06:04 AM
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Since we're on the subject of ladies' seats......

After having ridden about 500 miles on my new and first road bike, I'm starting to develop what I would call callouses right over the ischial tuberosities. Is that also a symptom of a poor fit, or something to be expected?
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Old 07-08-08, 06:25 AM
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^^^^ you are broken in....
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My wife tried many saddles before she found one that works for her.
She was able to demo a WTB Deva SLT and she fell in love with it. All saddles are individual, but the shop we use has had great success with a number of woman and this saddle. The white one also looks very sweet on her bike!

WTB Deva SLT
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Three things:

- Go to a trusted bike shop. Ask around...one of them will most certainly have someone who's a master at a bike fit.

- Saddle time. Once you get that fit down, the balance of the body over the length of the bike will settle in and her core strength will improve. Higher handlebars are not necessarily the answer; while they may force more of a tilt back onto the sitz bones, they'll also unweight the front end of the bike a bit, changing the handling of the bike. Tilting the nose of the saddle down will only force her forward onto the handlebars. She'll eventually feel that in her neck and shoulders.

- Skip the padded seat. I ride a Terry ZeroX - not a cushy seat, but perfect for me. Cushy is not necessarily better. Have her think pelvic tilt while on the bike.

Good luck!

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I acquired a bike with a Fizik Vitesse which is a saddle design for female riders. It's very close to the Aliante Sport only wider. (150mm) My wife really liked it and I've had it on a mountain bike for a while and is very comfortable when riding without bibs or cycling shorts. Fizik also makes this saddle in multi-sport design with more padding on the nose.
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The Dolce might be too cushy if it's wide enough. If she's sinking into the padding too much at the sit bones, then it may cause more compression elsewhere. I also like pointing my saddle nose down to the point just before I'd start sliding forward or leaning too much on my hands. I think a lot of women like it more nose-up because of pelvis rotation or how we sit or something, but not me. You can try that first. If it's not good enough, look for a firmer saddle (like the Jett or Ruby--note: the Ruby is basically the Toupe and will require some breaking-in at the sit bones), or go with a wider one. If she's on the cusp between sizes of the Specialized buttometer, I'd say go wider if she hasn't already. It helped me a lot when I was looking for the right saddle.
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Same here, I had that pressure, and I tilted the seat with nose down a bit. Problem solved!
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