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New Road Biker . . . Couple questions???

Old 07-07-08, 09:02 PM
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New Road Biker . . . Couple questions???

Hey guys . . . first of all let me just introduce myself. My name is Jeremy and I'm 23 years old and am just starting to get into road biking. I'm doing it to get back in shape which I hope it helps me with and for recreation as well. I bought a 2006 Specialized Allez Triple 54cm road bike with only 25 miles on it so its in really good shape. The bike came with Shimano SPD-505 pedals and I just bought Specialized sport mtb shoes with cleats to fit the clips. I can't believe how scratched up and nicked the cleats have gotten already from me trying to get my foot in them . . . will this effect the fit? I'm kind of nervous that I screwed them up already. I find it pretty easy to get in and out after some time getting used to them. I've heard the pedals are fine so I guess I'll keep them. What if I want to change pedals to say the speedplays in the future? Will the cleats or pedals rather fit into the shoes I bought? They only have the 2 holes for the spd cleats so I don't really know how it works. I want to get some gel padded shorts but not the spandex tight ones so if anyone has any recommendations in that aspect I appreciate that as well. Any other first time road bike suggestions would be great as well. Thanks a lot.

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Old 07-07-08, 09:31 PM
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embrace the lycra, you will sooner or later if you stick with it.
stick with your shoes and pedals for now, they're fine (and the cleats will get chewed up a bit, it's fine. eventually you'll just need to replace them)
when you're sure you're gonna hang with the bike for awhile and ready to get some road pedals just get some road shoes as well.
have fun, ride when you feel like it, don't when you don't.
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so I guess I will not be able to use these shoes with road bike pedals ever? Also, I got this cateye wireless computer with the bike and when I turn it on the speed doesn't register or anything? Do I need to press the start button or something? Any information would be cool . . . Would anyone recommend getting a gel padded seat? Also my last question and most important is regarding seat and handle bar height/angle. Any easy way to measure this . . . I feel like the most comfortable would be the seat at the same height as the handlebars?
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you can use the shoes you have more than likely with an adaptor that fits between the sole and cleat, at least for many road pedals.
as for the computer more than likely theres too much space between the magnet on the spokes (you attached that right?) and the sensor. just nudge the sensor over so theres only about 2mm of space.
with wireless computers you often need to mount the sensor up high on the fork as close to the computer as possible.
gel shorts are mediocre at best. if you can't go with lycra yet just get some anyway and wear them under some regular shorts.
as for bar and saddle stuff, it takes some time and experimentation to get things where you want. start with focusing on getting your saddle height dialed in. for a start you want a slight bend in the knee when your pedal is parallel with the seat tube. after you get that dialed you can play with raising or lowering your bars to get comfy.
hope that helps a little.
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Originally Posted by Liebo11 View Post
I want to get some gel padded shorts but not the spandex tight ones so if anyone has any recommendations in that aspect I appreciate that as well. Any other first time road bike suggestions would be great as well. Thanks a lot.
Get real bike shorts (yes, that means "spandex tight ones"). Just do it. Get a firm seat that doesn't squish your junk. It's counterintuitive, but a firm seat really is better than some padded seat.
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Don't worry about the whole road vs. mountain shoes...pro tip, up until about 10 years ago Shimano had no "road" cleat, the cleats for road and mountain were the same. So don't worry about having a "road" vs. "mountain" pedal/cleat setup. Clipless in itself is a HUGE advantage, road vs mountain is a relatively small different.
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ok so I guess I'll get the shorts and just wear baggy shorts over them . . . should the magnet be attached somewhere where its always in the same spot while the wheels are moving? I have the sensor pretty close to it now when its at the top so i don't know why its not working . . . Also . . . the knee should be bended when i'm on the seat and the pedal is all the way down to the ground?
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ok so I guess I'll get the shorts and just wear baggy shorts over them . . . should the magnet be attached somewhere where its always in the same spot while the wheels are moving? I have the sensor pretty close to it now when its at the top so i don't know why its not working . . . Also . . . the knee should be bended when i'm on the seat and the pedal is all the way down to the ground?
Just get mountain bike shorts. They have padding and aren't skin tight.
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I got some Novara MTB shorts that I like. They've got an inner spandex layer, and an outter shell that stretches a little but looks more like cargo shorts.
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make sure the actual magnet is freakishly close, my spokes are double butted and on certain ones it causes the magnet to deflect into the wheel so I had to find a spoke that wasn't twisted that way to get the sensor close enough
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I don't understand though . . . and i feel maybe stupid about it but when the wheel moves doesn't the magnet move with it? Like i have the sensor on the fork and its pretty close to the magnet when the wheel is in the right position?
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yeah the magnet is on a spoke and then moves past the sensor with each turn. just the distance between them needs to be no more than 4mm or so. i'm just saying that the magnet doesn't always occupy the whole of the thing you put on the spoke so if it does get close enough you need to make sure the magnetic part is the close part..

if you get my meaning
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Originally Posted by Liebo11 View Post
ok so I guess I'll get the shorts and just wear baggy shorts over them . . .
why? Whats wrong with wearing tight clothing these days? All these young people are freaking out that they have to wear skin tight clothing for this sport. Well too bad, just get some bibs (don't bother with shorts) and DON"T wear anything over them for the love of god. I don't see why so many people are so self conscious about what other people think about them even if they'll probably never see that person again. (I.e. random moron yelling obscenities at you on the road.) They'll yell at you either way, and hardly ever does it have to deal with the clothing it's mostly the fact that you are taking up 2 feet of their precious road space.
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I'm a rower so lycra has become a lifestyle to me.

If it's a modesty issue, believe me rowing lycra is completely unpadded and much more revealing.. just ignore it and be happy how comfortable you are!

If you are just going to wear baggy shorts over them then get proper ones with the pad, but remember lycra has a functional purpose in that it helps increase venous return amongst other things it's much better at controlling skin temperature
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