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Good Classic Bend Handlebars?

Old 07-08-08, 02:10 AM
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Good Classic Bend Handlebars?

I just built up a Surly Cross Check to be my primary commuter and do-everything bike. I am not a total retro-grouch though and prefer my indexed brifters to barcon shifters or (eeek) downtube shifters. However, it seems very hard to find a good classic bend handlebar that will work with STI shifters. Most handlebars I see now look like cramp-inducing torture devices.

I love the Nitto Noodle, but I've read that STI shifters don't fit very well on them. Plus they only make them for a 26.0mm clamp when it seems that threadless stems are now almost exclusively made with a 31.8mm clamp. Has anyone had much success mounting STI levers on a Noodle bar? If they work reasonably well on a Noodle bar then I'm sure I can find a good 26.0 threadless stem somewhere.

If the Noodle just won't work with STI levers then I'm curious if anyone has a good recommendation for a 31.8 classic bend handlebar that is designed for STI levers? I've heard the Ritchey classic bend and the Deda classic bend bars have very angled ramps that make the drops too angled to use when the ramps are near horizontal. I just want a bar with a smooth bend and near horizontal drops that will take brifters. Most bars marketed now as being ergonomic I find very uncomfortable. Any suggestions?
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Sounds like the Deda Newton Deep(Belgian bend) is what you're looking for. The Newton Shallow has the steeper Italian bend. Not sure if there is a Ritchey Classic with the Belgian bend. I have the shallow versions of the Deda Newton & the Ritchey Classic and have the drops pointed approximately at my rear brake caliper--pretty decent for riding on the ramps and drops.

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Old 07-08-08, 03:21 AM
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A lot of Bontrager bars have a traditional bend to them.
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Thanks Pendergast - the Deda deep drop bar does look good!

Any other suggestions (preferably in the under $100 range)?
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I keep seeing these and these over at sierratradingpost.com. I don't know anything else about them other than they look like a good deals. Maybe somebody else can chime in.

There's a 15% off thing going on now but you might need a link or code or something.
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I've got Ergolevers on my Nitto Soba bars. Not quite magic, but pretty damn good. Some great stems (Thomson, Deda, Ritchey) still avail in 26.0.

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CastIron:

This is exactly what I am trying to achieve - almost flat ramps with the drops at about 10-12 degrees (I know, I sound like the Rivendell catalog). If I can use my 105 brifters on a Nitto Noodle or Soba bar I think that's the direction I want to go.

What issues do you face with the set up? Did you need to use a shorter stem than usual to get a comfortable fit? Do the levers "flare out" too much, and are the hoods comfortable for long periods?
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No issues.
No.
No.
Yes.

The only drawback to this set-up is sprinting position is sub-optimal (but drops are good for cruising, so the trade-off works) and I tilted the bars down a bit from how you see them here.



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I use the new 3t Rotundo. It's worth a look. Reasonably priced and nice bend to it.
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Nitto Noodle (or soba, basically the same time).... man, if I had a nickel for every thread that asks this question, uh, I'd have like .65 cents

EDIT: recently managed to bend my noodles after being on the bike for a little over a year. Have switched to 3T rotundo and they're excellent.

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This is the best thread! This graphic captures my exact probem/solution! I have older Cinelli 64 bars that have too much of a downward angle from the bar to the hoods. This chart shows I need a flatter deeper bend to solve my problem!



Now I have to find a bar that has a flat ramp, like the Belgian bend, in a 31.8 size!
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Originally Posted by AndyK View Post
This is the best thread! This graphic captures my exact probem/solution! I have older Cinelli 64 bars that have too much of a downward angle from the bar to the hoods. This chart shows I need a flatter deeper bend to solve my problem!



Now I have to find a bar that has a flat ramp, like the Belgian bend, in a 31.8 size!
How about the Deda Newton in your graphic?
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I've got a set of Ritchey short/shallow drop, round bend bars on my bike now. I love the long flat section on the drops, but the hoods are no longer comfortable. I would try a set of round bars with a longer reach so that you'll still have a flat area leading to the hoods.
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Originally Posted by AndyK View Post
This is the best thread! This graphic captures my exact probem/solution! I have older Cinelli 64 bars that have too much of a downward angle from the bar to the hoods. This chart shows I need a flatter deeper bend to solve my problem!



Now I have to find a bar that has a flat ramp, like the Belgian bend, in a 31.8 size!
This would be the reason that Italian-bend bars suck, and suck hard. I ride a Nitto Classic, by the way. Great bar, though it has a loooong reach (100mm!). Very comfortable both on the hoods and in the drops. It does have a 25.4mm clamp, which is a bit odd, but they've been making this exact handlebar for 20+ years, so I guess they just never changed it and see no reason too. No big deal; just buy a so-called "mountain" stem (the fact that it's become common to refer to 25.4mm as "MTB size" and 26.0mm as "road size" makes me crazy, since it's completely wrong... but I digress). That's what I did, and it works just great.

EDIT: By the way, OP, there are tons and tons of great stems available in 26.0. Really.

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These have the similar Italian bend that I'm trying to get rid of. Too much down angle between bar and brifters.
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Nice ride!!! The Rotundo bars look pretty similar to my Cinelli Italian bend 64's, no?
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Nice ride!!! The Rotundo bars look pretty similar to my Cinelli Italian bend 64's, no?
Photo of 3T Rotundo. Looks closer to an Italian bend than a Belgium bend.
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[QUOTE=Pendergast;7509769]Photo of 3T Rotundo. Looks closer to an Italian bend than a Belgium bend.

Yup, looks like the Deda Newton Deep is the only way to go.

Can I use a 31.7 bar in a 31.8 stem??
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