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What's the big flippin' deal about Cyfac?

Old 07-09-08, 02:30 PM
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What's the big flippin' deal about Cyfac?

I've seen them in person. Nice pretty paint job and finishing, but c'mon, are they really all that? Frames go for over $2k. That seems pretty pricey for a carbon/aluminum frame.
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Because Euro rides one??
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because they're custom handmade frames by a company with a solid rep. many pros have ridden cyfacs with other names on the tubes.
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Look here and you'll see that they were "framebuilder to the stars."

Muy expensive.

edit to add: while defeating the purpose of sarcasm, please note that the first line was sarcastic, though pulled from a website.

Also edited to add -- they look like something I would consider in lieu of a very expensive plaything (like a powerboat), but not something I would consider on my very modest budget.
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I consider them to be the pinnacle of bicycles.
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I consider them to be the pinnacle of bicycles.
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meh - they're nice but not worth the price of admission. overrated IMO. A CAAD9 would perform every bit as well.
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Originally Posted by ravenmore View Post
meh - they're nice but not worth the price of admission. overrated IMO. A CAAD9 would perform every bit as well.
Since it would be inherently wrong to say your opinion is right or wrong, I will not disagree with your opinion.

But .

Fact Many pros use Cyfac frames rebadged in the pro-peloton

Fact I have never seen a rebadged CAAD 9 in the pro peloton.
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Well I have to agree with Ravenmore that Dollar for dollar the CAAD 9 is probably one of the best valued frames around.
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but it ain't no cyfac
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Originally Posted by Surferbruce View Post
but it ain't no cyfac
True. I never lusted for a CAAD.
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Originally Posted by Ih8lucky13 View Post
True. I never lusted for a CAAD.
+1 I have, however, lusted for a Cyfac
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I guess I just don't understand the Cyfac lust. That's why I posted this thread. People just go gaga over them. Why? What am I missing? They just don't seem like anything extraordinary to me. Just another aluminum carbon frame. They ride nice and are quality construction and finish, but nothing that much better than a lot of other frames out there that can be had for a lot less. Actually a lot of aluminum Pinarellos and Colnagos are the same IMO - just seem way overrated at the price tag.

I personally think the reason you don't see any re-badged CAAD9's in the pro's is that Canondale straight up was willing to be a sponsor. And I just pulled Cannondale out of a hat as an example of as good or better of a frame for a lot less. An argument could me made for a lot of others as well.
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Up to 2001, roughly 30% of the entire European pro peloton was riding a bike built by Francis Quilon and Cyfac's artisans in their small Loire Valley atelier. It's no wonder, then, that Cyfac's record of success speaks to loudly:
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Originally Posted by mrt10x View Post
Because Euro rides one??
I think Euro rides a Canyon.
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A team around here rides them. Nice bikes, I say.
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Originally Posted by Ih8lucky13 View Post
Up to 2001, roughly 30% of the entire European pro peloton was riding a bike built by Francis Quilon and Cyfac's artisans in their small Loire Valley atelier. It's no wonder, then, that Cyfac's record of success speaks to loudly:
meh - only because Bikesdirect wasnt around back then...

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I agree, they're nice, IMO just not 2+ grand nice.

I think Euro did get a Cyfac at one point. I remember him blabbering about his build of it. I got on to him because he planned on doing crits with it and I thought it was too nice (and expensive) to crash it.
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Originally Posted by Ih8lucky13 View Post
Up to 2001, roughly 30% of the entire European pro peloton was riding a bike built by Francis Quilon and Cyfac's artisans in their small Loire Valley atelier. It's no wonder, then, that Cyfac's record of success speaks to loudly:
You get extra points for using the word "atelier"
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Originally Posted by blanqui View Post
You get extra points for using the word "atelier"
Yes Copy and paste is a great function.
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Same as any other boutique build IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one, same as any other uber custom carbon race rocket.

Performance? Get real. We're NOT talking about performance/cost at this level, which yeah, the CAAD9 pretty much wins.
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Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one, same as any other uber custom carbon race rocket.

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All of the ones I've seen are aluminum/carbon.
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Perhaps You haven't seen them all or perhaps I'm mistaken. Since it's BF, someone will surely correct the matter shortly with irrefutable proof.
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I did some digging and they do have all carbon models.
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indeed they do, and i've seen a showroom full of them, including a ridiculous full carbon tandem, at a shop in france. they were simply beautiful bikes. they also have a crazy full body scan fit system. slowly more companies are accommodating full custom carbon frames, but they were one of the first. you basically design your bike with them from the ground up.
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