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Steel Bike Opinions (Colnago, IF, Gios, Serotta)

Old 07-23-08, 06:44 PM
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Steel Bike Opinions (Colnago, IF, Gios, Serotta)

I'm in the market for a new bike because my first bike (Felt 4C) is a bit too big for me (top tube) -- and the geometry is too aggressive. I'm leaning toward steel and have my list narrowed to four selections. I ride about 3-4k miles a season and am a low A club rider (19-20mph on the flats). I'm looking for a bike that will be comfortable for long recreational rides (70-80 miles) but will also give me the opp to push it on some shorter training rides with local racers. My "length" is in my legs (I have shortish arms and torso) so I need either a custom frame or shorter top tube/seat tube ratio -- also, my biggest "problem area" is my arms and hands getting tired/numb.

I'm giving some background to provide perspective (i.e. I'm not looking for advice on how to eliminate hand/arm pain -- I know a better fitting bike will take care of this).

Can anyone provide opinions on the following four choices?

1) Colnago Master X Lite
2) Gios Compact Pro
3) IF Crown Jewel
4) Serotta (not sure what their custom steel model is)

PS, I live in NYC if anyone has feedback on either Signature, Cadence or Conrads (as I've narrowed my list to these three places -- unless of course I choose the Gios which would need to be ordered from Excel Sports in Colorado).

Thanks.

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Old 07-23-08, 06:57 PM
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Hit up Signature and get a Seven Axiom Steel.
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Originally Posted by jignall View Post
1) Colnago Master X Lite
2) Gios Compact Pro
3) IF Crown Jewel
4) Serotta (not sure what their custom steel model is)
As a dyed in the wool steel fanatic...

1) Over priced and I still know people that HAVEN'T received their ordered bikes yet. That being said, I have an 82 "Saronni Red" Colnago Super (SP tubing) and it is a nice ride, I imagine the MXL is also a nice ride. Can you order a custom sized one?

2) Gios Compact Pro is really not an all day kind of bike, again not custom sized.

3) YES

4) Look for a vintage CSI on ebay, nice, cheap, but maybe not your size.

Quick, fair price, custom size, I would go with https://www.landsharkbicycles.com/
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all good bikes, the answer would more or less be what geometry suits you the most.

I'd swap number 3 to the bottom and that would be the order I'd want them in also.

The colnago has such spot on handling, imo it would be hard to go past. I'm sure someone will tell you to get a custom steel frame (you don't say hwo tall or short you are), but the colnago comes in 16 stock sizes.

The gios has the most heart tugging looks about it.
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Old 07-23-08, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by vjp View Post

Can you order a custom sized one?
I've done a lot of research on fit and I'm pretty sure the 57 or 58cm X Lite would be a good fit. I'm 6' 1" with a 34.25" inseam but short arms/torso (arms are only 25" as measured per competitivecyclist's method). I'm pretty sure I need a 58-59cm seat tube and 55-56cm top tube -- seat tube obv isn't as important as can just have higher seatpost and more spacers on the steerer tube to prevent too much saddle/bar drop.
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Originally Posted by woodduck View Post
(you don't say hwo tall or short you are)
I didn't even think about the way I ordered them to be honest but my heart is pulling for the Colnago! I'm 6' 1" with a 34.25" inseam but short arms/torso (arms are only 25" as measured per competitivecyclist's method). I'm pretty sure I need a 58-59cm seat tube and 55-56cm top tube -- seat tube obv isn't as important as can just have higher seatpost and more spacers on the steerer tube to prevent too much saddle/bar drop.
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Old 07-23-08, 07:32 PM
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I love my Land Shark. It wasn't made for me, but it feels like it was. I hope that I never have to replace it. Fortunately for you (and everyone) there are a lot of really talented framebuilders to choose from these days. If I were in the market today, I'd probably go for another Shark, but Spectrum Cycles, Yamaguchi, IF, and Pegoretti would be in my short list.
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Old 07-23-08, 07:37 PM
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At the price range, why not ti?
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Well, if you order Ti, you'd have to up the budget to buy from those companies. Serotta's current custom steel frame is called the Coeur d'Acier (heart of steel). Expensive steel bikes are cool
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Old 07-23-08, 08:45 PM
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I have that model Colnago, but mine is smaller (52). I've got many thousands of miles on it and I just love it. It rides beautifully. Mine is built up with Campy Chorus (9sp) and Bontrager Race XLite wheels. It tips the scales at an even 20lbs.

From a very happy Colnago owner.
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Do not overlook the Pegoretti Marcello. It currently tops my very short list of next bike.
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Old 07-23-08, 09:14 PM
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PEGORETTI!!!!! I have a Marcelo and I can honestly say it will never leave my possession....The new marcelo is sick too!!!
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Old 07-23-08, 09:36 PM
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+1 Signature

Go with the Serrota steel. Just be prepared to wait for the custom build.
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Well ti, won't rust. And steel that won't rust is as expensive as ti just about.

A good ti bike/frame can be had at a reasonable price, see bd/soulbike.
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A real steal is Jamis Quest. Relatively short top tube. Comes in women's geometry up to size 54 if that fits you and you're seriously short in the torso. Nicely spec'd. One of the forgotten of the few remaining stock steel bikes without having to go boutique or custom.

Serotta Fierte Steel if you want to go more expensive. Another stock steel, and pretty short in the top tube/upright. Also comes in 54Short.
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IF for sure.
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Old 07-24-08, 12:09 AM
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how about vanilla?
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how about vanilla?
isn't the wait on those almost 5 years now?
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Pegoretti
Waterford
IF

All of these can be custom. I do not know much about the Seven mentioned above but several people have said good things about the frame.
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You wont regret going to signature for a great fit. Also, I just visit my Serotta being made up in Saratoga, met the guy who had just assembled my frame, took a quick look at it before it went into the oven, walked around the factory floor - it was a pretty cool experience you wont get from other manufacturers (assuming you can make it up to Saratoga at some point.
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+1 on Waterford. They make great bikes and are very reputable people to deal with.
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Serotta CDA
Waterford 2200
both great bikes and worth the $,and the rides are great
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I own a Gios Compact Pro (SLX tubing) and a MXL both circa early 90's. both great rides. you would be happy with either of them. You can ride either of them all day depending on your wheels and how you set them up.
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Originally Posted by sfcrossrider View Post
IF for sure.
+1

Been riding and racing mine since 1998. I just change the parts to stay with the times.

That said the paint job is getting a little long in the tooth as it has a couple of small dings that need to be popped out and the Dura Ace seat post is permantently fused in the seat tube. Only heat will get it out.

I would buy another one in a heartbeat. But I havent needed to.
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Keep an eye on eBay for ti frame. I picked up a new Merlin CR for less than the Landsharks.
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