Retirement or New Bike?
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Retirement or New Bike?
So, what would you do? I just changed employers and my old 401(k) is no longer tenable, so I can either roll it or take the distribution. Obviously the tax consequences would be big (I'm nowhere near 59 & 1/2 and not interested in a 72(t)). I don't have much in this account, but enough to get me a nice, new bike with SRAM Rival. The account is down a bit, of course, but surprisingly not much thanks to a wise allocation in some cheap investment options.
Thing is, I can roll it into a Roth and buy my company's funds at NAV, which would be a smokin' deal. What would you do? Buy funds at NAV or buy a new bike and lose some value in your retirment accounts?
Thing is, I can roll it into a Roth and buy my company's funds at NAV, which would be a smokin' deal. What would you do? Buy funds at NAV or buy a new bike and lose some value in your retirment accounts?
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Retirement is for old guys in Florida.
Remember what Hemingway said... "Retirement is the ugliest word in the language."
Remember what Hemingway said... "Retirement is the ugliest word in the language."
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You should know better asking around for solid financial advice on a site where people spend their retirement funds on annual gear upgrades.
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Roll it into an IRA. You'll get a FBO check and it will be in the full vested amount of your plan. You won't get any tax penalties. Call your financial advisor, it's a very simple process.
It might only be $5,000 right now, but in another 30 years when it's time to withdrawl, it'll be much, much more.
It might only be $5,000 right now, but in another 30 years when it's time to withdrawl, it'll be much, much more.
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tough dilemma.....if keeping the funds puts you much closer to actually retiring (when you can ride that much more) then I'd say hang on to 'em. If not? then go for the gear. It doesn't sound as if there's really that much in it right now....but, if you're a long ways away from retiring then those funds will have a chance to grow into something substantial - like 3 months on cote d'Azur. Or a month biking the Dolomites. Or Scotland.
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Roll it...
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My only regrets at retiring at 52 is that I didn't do it earlier. Better to have more time to ride than a new bike to ride. Roll.
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robvas,
I know what'll happen. I've got a Series 7, 63, 65 and am a Level I CFA Candidate. My whole family's in advising.
I'm young, have a long way to go, and other accounts (Roth, pension plan with my new company, 401(k) too) and this account is pretty minor. Think I'll roll it anyways, more because liquidating now means taking a value loss. If this was a bull market I think I'd be tempted, but it's a bear of a bear and it's probably wiser to let my investments recoup some value.
Thanks for the "roll" backers.
I know what'll happen. I've got a Series 7, 63, 65 and am a Level I CFA Candidate. My whole family's in advising.
I'm young, have a long way to go, and other accounts (Roth, pension plan with my new company, 401(k) too) and this account is pretty minor. Think I'll roll it anyways, more because liquidating now means taking a value loss. If this was a bull market I think I'd be tempted, but it's a bear of a bear and it's probably wiser to let my investments recoup some value.
Thanks for the "roll" backers.
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Roll it. Just think about how great the frames and groupsets will be when you retire.
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Okay, i'll be an enabler for the schwag purchase:
I don't know your current riding habits but if the new bike from the 401k funds increases your riding a great deal, one could argue that it is worth more than the retirement fund itself. This assumes you have other financial avenues for your retirement of course. i.e. Using the money now for something that keeps you fit into your retirement years may be more beneficial than money when you retire (assuming you don't forego all other longterm financial plans). This didn't sound like your sole plan.
This argument doesn't fly if you already ride regularly.
Could be a stretch but it is another way to look at it.
I don't know your current riding habits but if the new bike from the 401k funds increases your riding a great deal, one could argue that it is worth more than the retirement fund itself. This assumes you have other financial avenues for your retirement of course. i.e. Using the money now for something that keeps you fit into your retirement years may be more beneficial than money when you retire (assuming you don't forego all other longterm financial plans). This didn't sound like your sole plan.
This argument doesn't fly if you already ride regularly.
Could be a stretch but it is another way to look at it.
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Okay, i'll be an enabler for the schwag purchase:
I don't know your current riding habits but if the new bike from the 401k funds increases your riding a great deal, one could argue that it is worth more than the retirement fund itself. This assumes you have other financial avenues for your retirement of course. i.e. Using the money now for something that keeps you fit into your retirement years may be more beneficial than money when you retire (assuming you don't forego all other longterm financial plans). This didn't sound like your sole plan.
This argument doesn't fly if you already ride regularly.
Could be a stretch but it is another way to look at it.
I don't know your current riding habits but if the new bike from the 401k funds increases your riding a great deal, one could argue that it is worth more than the retirement fund itself. This assumes you have other financial avenues for your retirement of course. i.e. Using the money now for something that keeps you fit into your retirement years may be more beneficial than money when you retire (assuming you don't forego all other longterm financial plans). This didn't sound like your sole plan.
This argument doesn't fly if you already ride regularly.
Could be a stretch but it is another way to look at it.
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So, what would you do? I just changed employers and my old 401(k) is no longer tenable, so I can either roll it or take the distribution. Obviously the tax consequences would be big (I'm nowhere near 59 & 1/2 and not interested in a 72(t)). I don't have much in this account, but enough to get me a nice, new bike with SRAM Rival. The account is down a bit, of course, but surprisingly not much thanks to a wise allocation in some cheap investment options.
Thing is, I can roll it into a Roth and buy my company's funds at NAV, which would be a smokin' deal. What would you do? Buy funds at NAV or buy a new bike and lose some value in your retirment accounts?
Thing is, I can roll it into a Roth and buy my company's funds at NAV, which would be a smokin' deal. What would you do? Buy funds at NAV or buy a new bike and lose some value in your retirment accounts?
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Save elsewhere for your new bike and roll that money. This is the worst place possible to ask financial advice. I am just surprised the booze and hookers response hasn't come up yet.
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Personally, I've chosen 'good enough' in bike schwag and decided it's smarter to fund an early retirement, thus being able to ride more. Or you can hang a nice bike on your office wall when you're 70.
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So, what would you do? I just changed employers and my old 401(k) is no longer tenable, so I can either roll it or take the distribution. Obviously the tax consequences would be big (I'm nowhere near 59 & 1/2 and not interested in a 72(t)). I don't have much in this account, but enough to get me a nice, new bike with SRAM Rival. The account is down a bit, of course, but surprisingly not much thanks to a wise allocation in some cheap investment options.
Thing is, I can roll it into a Roth and buy my company's funds at NAV, which would be a smokin' deal. What would you do? Buy funds at NAV or buy a new bike and lose some value in your retirment accounts?
Thing is, I can roll it into a Roth and buy my company's funds at NAV, which would be a smokin' deal. What would you do? Buy funds at NAV or buy a new bike and lose some value in your retirment accounts?
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booo on all the "roll it" advocates.
you're not gauranteed to make it to retirement, buy a nice bike, spend the rest on hookers and blow. live it up.
you're not gauranteed to make it to retirement, buy a nice bike, spend the rest on hookers and blow. live it up.
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It's insane to cash out your 401k.
Considering the tax consequences, and the long term loss of investment gains, you'd be much better off using a credit card to buy the bike. Of course you'd be even better off saving until you could pay cash.
Right off the bat you lose 10%, then you pay taxes on the full amount at your highest marginal rate.
Also, if your 401k was all in your company's stock you need to diversify.
Considering the tax consequences, and the long term loss of investment gains, you'd be much better off using a credit card to buy the bike. Of course you'd be even better off saving until you could pay cash.
Right off the bat you lose 10%, then you pay taxes on the full amount at your highest marginal rate.
Also, if your 401k was all in your company's stock you need to diversify.
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robvas,
I know what'll happen. I've got a Series 7, 63, 65 and am a Level I CFA Candidate. My whole family's in advising.
I'm young, have a long way to go, and other accounts (Roth, pension plan with my new company, 401(k) too) and this account is pretty minor. Think I'll roll it anyways, more because liquidating now means taking a value loss. If this was a bull market I think I'd be tempted, but it's a bear of a bear and it's probably wiser to let my investments recoup some value.
Thanks for the "roll" backers.
I know what'll happen. I've got a Series 7, 63, 65 and am a Level I CFA Candidate. My whole family's in advising.
I'm young, have a long way to go, and other accounts (Roth, pension plan with my new company, 401(k) too) and this account is pretty minor. Think I'll roll it anyways, more because liquidating now means taking a value loss. If this was a bull market I think I'd be tempted, but it's a bear of a bear and it's probably wiser to let my investments recoup some value.
Thanks for the "roll" backers.