Carbon explosion!!! Crashed my TCR
09-10-09, 07:46 PM
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I just got my first carbon bike too and now I'm scared to go on roads around here... I didn't know bikes could look like that after going through a pothole
09-10-09, 08:21 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure. The single spoke working itself loose is a key part that is being overlooked. When you are traveling in a straight direction and hit a solid object, impact forces causes deflection at exactly nearest spoke perpendicular to the force (very characteristic of a frontal impact).
In the pothole case most of those forces hit the wheel at an angle facilitating stress to be carried up to he frame by a greater number of spokes presenting a different scenario than the one offered by the op.
Do I think a small pothole caused that damage? sure (indirectly) if somehow op lost control of handlebars by sudden jarring causing him to crash against a roadside object. In all chances it may have been just a crack and op finished the job.
Like others have said, there's more to the story that we don't know about.
In the pothole case most of those forces hit the wheel at an angle facilitating stress to be carried up to he frame by a greater number of spokes presenting a different scenario than the one offered by the op.
Do I think a small pothole caused that damage? sure (indirectly) if somehow op lost control of handlebars by sudden jarring causing him to crash against a roadside object. In all chances it may have been just a crack and op finished the job.
Like others have said, there's more to the story that we don't know about.
09-10-09, 09:04 PM
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You gonna eat that?
Glad you weren't hurt worse; that could have been really nasty.
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09-10-09, 09:07 PM
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Someone didn't look hard enough....
Cliffnotes: I eventually accepted that the damage wasn't frame failure and was instead a result of some aspect of the crash (probably the endo). The frame was replaced for a K. I've crashed in many times since then with no problems.
Cliffnotes: I eventually accepted that the damage wasn't frame failure and was instead a result of some aspect of the crash (probably the endo). The frame was replaced for a K. I've crashed in many times since then with no problems.
09-10-09, 09:11 PM
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Yeah, cost for frames is so much. So is retail. For the defy advanced 3, if you buy the bike at retail, 2k, you pretty much get the 105 group/ultegra rear, wheels, crank, seat, everything for a couple hundred. The frame is 1800 or so. Funny thing now, is that, often, the Defy Advanced 3 is on sale for 1.6k, and the frame is still 1800 
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And you believed them?
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09-10-09, 10:19 PM
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Yeah, cost for frames is so much. So is retail. For the defy advanced 3, if you buy the bike at retail, 2k, you pretty much get the 105 group/ultegra rear, wheels, crank, seat, everything for a couple hundred. The frame is 1800 or so. Funny thing now, is that, often, the Defy Advanced 3 is on sale for 1.6k, and the frame is still 1800
09-10-09, 10:56 PM
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from looking at your road rash and me having a case of it myself (football at PT)... i wonder why we don't shave our elbows... seems like a likely place for cuts..
09-10-09, 11:15 PM
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You have hair on your elbows? 
09-11-09, 05:27 AM
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You gonna eat that?
A steel frame would have bent and been trashed, but would not have come apart like that. I did an endo like that with my steel frame. It buckled and bent and looked like hell, but then I rode it for another six months before replacing it.
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09-11-09, 05:58 AM
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09-11-09, 08:33 AM
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You gonna eat that?
Carbon: Trashed = Useless
Steel: Trashed = Nasty looking, but still rideable
Steel: Trashed = Nasty looking, but still rideable
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I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.
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I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.
Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
