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Do you drink soy milk?

Old 08-08-08, 07:57 PM
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Soy milk does promote the production of estrogen, same thing as marijuana.
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Old 08-08-08, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by entukay View Post
i drink it because i can buy it warm, and don't have to buy it as frequently. plus it takes longer to go bad. thats really the only reason.
x2, mostly it lasts longer. I easily get 2+ weeks out of it.
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Old 08-08-08, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by slickyricky View Post
Soy milk does promote the production of estrogen, same thing as marijuana.
I'm not surprised that the guy from Boulder knows this factoid.
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Old 08-08-08, 09:19 PM
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I can't say that I like it much at all. In fact I NEVER drink it even though it's always in my refrigerator because my kids love it.
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Old 08-08-08, 09:31 PM
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i'm kinda thinking about ditching it. i might try some rice milk. i get lots of protein from other sources, so that's not an issue. i just need something to mix up whey protein shakes and use with cereal.
i'm not lactose intolerant, but my wife is so cow's milk just isn't here. it adds bodyfat to me anyway, even nonfat.
i mixed some whey powder and a little peanut butter with water today to try it and it was...watery. drinkable, but not nearly as good tasting.
anyway... i know, i know, htfu.
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Old 08-08-08, 09:38 PM
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I'm lactose intolerant, so yes, I've substituted soy milk for the cow variety. Having said that, I basically only have it with my cereal, and sometimes as a protein supplement in a smoothie. I remain a manly man.
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My 91 year old mother drinks soy milk. Hasn't helped her cycling much
She insisted I try it last time I visited. Man that stuff is NASTY! I don't care what it does for my hormone levels. NO WAY.
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Old 08-08-08, 09:53 PM
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I drink almond milk, vanilla or plain. Milk of the gods and super duper healthy!
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Old 08-08-08, 10:26 PM
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That explains why I am into drag. Must be all the soy I ate. Chinese empire make sure that Chinese men drink soy and not be too ho-rny in the evenings. Soy the other "pill" for men.

Newsflash -- a lot of prepared food stuffs including micky-d's have soy. It's in your wonderbread, most of the powerbars and maybe evenas a fillwer on your multi-v's. Like Carbon Monoxide it's everwhere.
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Old 08-08-08, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by logdrum View Post
Newsflash -- a lot of prepared food stuffs including micky-d's have soy. It's in your wonderbread, most of the powerbars and maybe evenas a fillwer on your multi-v's. Like Carbon Monoxide it's everwhere.
to me that's all the more reason to cut it out where you can.
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Old 08-08-08, 11:31 PM
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I've been drinking it exclusively for about 4 years. It hasn't effected me at all. I cried watching Steel Magnolias before I drank soy milk.
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Old 08-08-08, 11:56 PM
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hell yes, there's nothing like a bowl of organic cereal in the morning with cold vanilla soy milk. i also drink regular milk and like it, but again, there's nothing like chocolate soymilk. really.
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Old 08-09-08, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Surferbruce View Post
A little OT, butI just learned that many reserachers believe it elevates estrogen levels in men (which could explain a lot...) .
I use(d) it as a base for protein shakes pretty much daily as well as with cereal 2-3 days a week. Even if it's only slightly, I'm the kind of guy that doesn't need even an extra microgram of female hormones in his bloodstream.
anyone else heard this, believe it/don't believe it, started menstruating...etc?
PM me when you develop breasts. Then I can see a reason to drink this stuff;
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Old 08-09-08, 12:42 AM
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Tried it once. YUCK!

So, no.

I'm lactose intolerant, and the calcium-enriched skim Lactaid does just fine.
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Old 08-09-08, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by yogi13 View Post
I'm lactose intolerant, so yes, I've substituted soy milk for the cow variety. Having said that, I basically only have it with my cereal, and sometimes as a protein supplement in a smoothie. I remain a manly man.
Same here, use it for cereal and no changes. I like the stuff too, cow milk always kinda creaped me out.
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Old 08-09-08, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by photonick View Post
Don't know if you've heard but there are some people in this world who choose not to rely on animals for their nourishment.
for fashion even people from india drink milk even when they do not kill the cow. according to the human physiological traits we can come to the conclution that humans are omnivores. if i am wrong why are cows so delicious.
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Old 08-10-08, 10:27 AM
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I'm lactose intolerant, so I drink soy milk. There is a big taste difference between sweetened and unsweetened soy milk. I only put it on cereal and granola, it tastes too strong if I drink it straight.
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Old 08-10-08, 10:40 AM
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Soy has estrogen precursors...the raw material your body produces estrogen from...so it can have a moderating or regulating influence on hormone levels. Soy supplements are sometimes used in naturopathic medicine for women's menopause, because of that regulating influence. But the body knows what it needs to be making, so it's not going to throw off your hormone balance toward estrogen. It takes what it needs from the precursors to make things.

The benefits of soy, though, are that studies show it's an anti-cancer food. Especially for men, the regulating influence on testosterone, and the other anti-cancer benefits, are helpful for prostate cancer. Testosterone helps fuel prostate cancer growth.

One way I could see that having alot of soy in your diet would affect you undesirably is if you're trying to build muscle mass. Testosterone helps build and maintain lean muscle mass, and keep lower fat levels on the body. Soy could technically help regulate testosterone levels to moderate that benefit. On the other hand, if you're cycling alot, fat levels should be well moderated, and building alot of muscle mass is probably not desired.

I have soy milk pretty often (and also non-rbgh dairy and meat). For me, there's a fair history of prostate cancer and stuff in my family, and I'm looking at that. I also put on muscle fairly easily; I guess we're just raging with testosterone ..so I'm not worried about any moderating influence on that.

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Old 08-10-08, 10:48 AM
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I drink it occasionally, and probably not enough to care about hormonal effects.

Funny story. My vegetarian friend had a baby, and the Doctor told her to keep her son off of soy products because it would probably turn him gay. OOF! How's that for offensive, and inaccurate?
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Originally Posted by slickyricky View Post
I drink almond milk, vanilla or plain. Milk of the gods and super duper healthy!
+1

To me, Almond milk tastes so much better than soy milk that its night/day difference. I also tried hemp milk, but that was even worse tasting than soy.
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Soy milk is delicious. but only the asian brands. the americans don't know how to make it right.

anyhow, there are no published studies on the actual effects of the plant estrogens found in soy. moreover, estrogens do not have a direct effect on testosterone levels so yeah.

soy is a complete protien. if you want to argue aganst that, then talk to my nutrition professor (Dr. Liz Applegate Ph.D, Director of Sports Nutrition at UC Davis, Nutritionist for the Oakland Raiders, internationally recognized, etc etc...)

overall, its better for you than cow's milk. plus it doesnt contain puss or white blood cells.
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Originally Posted by Val23708 View Post
Soy milk is delicious. but only the asian brands. the americans don't know how to make it right.
Eden makes a pretty good soy milk.
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Old 08-10-08, 11:19 AM
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I like chocolate soy milk.
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Originally Posted by re-cycler View Post
Eden makes a pretty good soy milk.
And Eden was founded by a Japanese-American dude and also popularized macrobiotics in the US. Silk from Colorado -- not so good and WestBrae as well. The soymilk from Asian groceries is a bit of an acquired taste because they do not put fillers and emulsifiers like the other US Whole(Foods)Paycheck brands.
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Originally Posted by photonick View Post
better than prostate milk.
Subjective. I'd rather drink "prostate" milk and not be a weeny, soy drinking, plastic shoe wearing hippie.
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