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Do you drink soy milk?

Old 08-10-08, 12:11 PM
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The best thing after a hard ride (besides beer, of course) is a frosty glass of chocolate soy milk. Seriously.
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Old 08-10-08, 12:14 PM
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Oat milk > all.
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Old 08-10-08, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JustinCycle View Post
Subjective. I'd rather drink "prostate" milk and not be a weeny, soy drinking, plastic shoe wearing hippie.
um...wouldn't drinking "prostate" milk mean........ okey doke
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Originally Posted by re-cycler View Post
um...wouldn't drinking "prostate" milk mean........ okey doke
hahah.
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Old 08-10-08, 12:58 PM
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I'm too lazy to look it up. But some of that estrogen research is allegedly funded by the dairy industry. You know the same one that convinced the world that Milk is the best way to get Calcium.

Personally, I don't care. Just kinda interesting to contemplate.

I drink HELLA soy milk on a day to day basis. Recovery shake w/protein powder, super food mix, cereal. If I grow breasts it will only help to reduce my dependence on women (well woman).
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Old 08-10-08, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pelikan View Post
I'm too lazy to look it up. But some of that estrogen research is allegedly funded by the dairy industry. You know the same one that convinced the world that Milk is the best way to get Calcium.

Personally, I don't care. Just kinda interesting to contemplate.

I drink HELLA soy milk on a day to day basis. Recovery shake w/protein powder, super food mix, cereal. If I grow breasts it will only help to reduce my dependence on women (well woman).
While the effects of phytoestrogens (like what's in soy) are still being researched, and hormone interaction is complex, it's not debated wheter soy contains substantial levels of these phytoestrogens. The issue is the relative benefit or liability for men or women, especially with conditions that are related to hormone levels (breast cancer, prostate cancer). It is at least being considered what the effects of regulated testosterone could be for men. At the levels that most people would consume, it's not thought to be a big deal. Supplementation may be different.

Re: calcium and milk. I'm not USDA shill, but it is a good source for calcium, certainly a hell of alot better than soy milk.
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Old 08-10-08, 02:11 PM
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what the **** is soy milk!?
jk. I like regular milk and have had no desire to try anything else.
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Old 08-10-08, 02:24 PM
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A lot of soy milk brands are chock full of sugar.

Check the labels.
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Old 08-10-08, 03:22 PM
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Well since it is usually considered an alternative to milk I would say that in that respect the estrogen levels are low. Cow's milk is made from just gave birth cows to feed their calfs, which will have a high amount of estrogen.

I do not know much about estrogen in soy milk. But I can tell you that in the month of me drinking it I have lost almost 20 pounds. I was doing alot of cycling and nutrtition tweaking. Also, I developed a delayed allergy to milk which made me gain alot of weight and have no idea why.

Beware, 1/3 people have delayed allergies. Most common is milk and wheat. It will sneak up on you, make you gain alot of weight( for me 25lbs) and suck all of your energy so all you do is sit around and watch the t.v.


Now without milk I have an incredible amount of energy and am working out harder, riding farther, and studying better.

So beware.
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Old 08-10-08, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Surferbruce View Post
I'm the kind of guy that doesn't need even an extra microgram of female hormones in his bloodstream.
There's real estrogen in cow's milk, as opposed to an estrogen mimic in soy milk. There's an order of magnitude more of it, too. There's also estrogen in cow's beef and other meat products. Much more than in soy products - hundreds of times more in fact.

Actually, cow's milk is a nice cocktail of bovine hormones (everything a growing calf needs), antibodies, enzymes, simple sugars and plain glucose (to keep any active calf energized), bovine insulin (to make sure the calf doesn't go diabetic from the sugar dose), and whatnot. Potent stuff. If you're a rapidly growing bovine.

Edit: oh, and I forgot the nice infusion of gut bacteria to prepare the calf to consume grass. It has migrated all the way from the butt area to the tits. But I guess you don't really get this benefit if your milk is pasteurized. So make sure to drink it raw!

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I drink soy milk. Vanilla. I drink it because I like the taste not because of any health benefit claims or aversion to dairy.
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Old 08-10-08, 06:09 PM
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so IF soy milk has estrogen, you're saying that drinking it will elevate estrogen levels? Just like eating cow testicles will increase testosterone levels? Cuz a lot of people with patches and syringes say that it doesn't.
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Old 08-10-08, 06:28 PM
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I drink it. Mostly in cereal. Cow milk is vile, disgusting, and meant for, well, cows. (love cheese though)
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Old 08-10-08, 07:17 PM
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I drink it.

I use plain soy milk when eating cereal or cooking and it calls for milk. My favorite is chocolate soy. For me, it taste like a slightly less sugary yoo-hoo. I usually mix chocolate soy with hemp protein for a nice after ride shake. I am a vegetarian and supposedly hemp protein is the most easily absorbed plant protein, plus it's very high in fiber.
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Old 08-10-08, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by photonick View Post
Don't know if you've heard but there are some people in this world who choose not to rely on animals for their nourishment.

I've heard....some people voted for Jimuh Carter as well
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Old 08-10-08, 09:30 PM
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Chocolate and Mocha Silk are the jam. Vanilla is OK on cereal and with oatmeal....
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Old 08-10-08, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gfrance View Post
I drink it. Mostly in cereal. Cow milk is vile, disgusting, and meant for, well, cows. (love cheese though)


Ever wonder where cheese comes from?
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