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Old 05-20-18, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by joejack951
How do you suppose I'm using a threadless headset with the original threaded fork? See here: Threadless Conversion Headset
Okay, that makes the threadless stem unforgivable.
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Originally Posted by joejack951
Anyone know if a Centaur 10 speed crank would shift ok with an 11 speed chain?
Should be fine; the accepted wisdom is that you can generally get away with one size narrower chain with no problems.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Okay, that makes the threadless stem unforgivable.
Yep, anyone wanting to rock 31.8 bars on an old-school bike should have to take the fork to a frame builder to get a new steerer fitted and get the fork repainted, or face the firing squad.
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You can use this Ritchey Carbon if you're not afraid it might explode.
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Columbus Minimal is heaps lighter
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Strong, heavy, expensive, choose 2
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Originally Posted by Pirkaus
You can use this Ritchey Carbon if you're not afraid it might explode.
I've got one of those in my Merlin. Superb fork
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Okay, that makes the threadless stem unforgivable.
Did you mean the opposite of what you typed?
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Originally Posted by joejack951
Did you mean the opposite of what you typed?
no.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
no.
Clearly a man of few words. But I'll ask anyway...care to explain the 'unforgivable' comment?
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Originally Posted by joejack951
Clearly a man of few words. But I'll ask anyway...care to explain the 'unforgivable' comment?
To me it seems like if you have the knowledge and skill to make a threadless stem adapter, you would have been better off making a period appropriate quill stem that mounts to a modern drop bar. Threadless stems IMO don't look as good on old thin tubing frames
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Originally Posted by Timo 2.0
I've got one of those in my Merlin. Superb fork
I have one on my Serotta Nova Special X
very nice ridding fork.
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Originally Posted by joejack951
Clearly a man of few words. But I'll ask anyway...care to explain the 'unforgivable' comment?
I was joking about it being “unforgivable”, but promotion of a product that you produce and sell is what I was referring to. It’s actually an interesting product, but it doesn’t help your bike look hot.

Resto-mod bikes are a touchy subject.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Resto-mod bikes are a touchy subject.
But fun to ride!
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Originally Posted by Pirkaus

But fun to ride!
I concur.
I have an 83 Guerciotti with 1991 Campagnolo components. It a joy to ride, and it’s beautiful, but it got panned when I posted it here.


when I get home, I’ll repost it so that I receive a proper whipping.

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Originally Posted by noodle soup
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Resto-mod bikes are a touchy subject.

Originally Posted by Pirkaus

But fun to ride!
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
I concur.
I have an 83 Guerciotti with 1991 Campagnolo components. It a joy to ride, and it’s beautiful, but it got panned when I posted it here.


when I get home, I’ll repost it so that I receive a proper whipping.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup

For some reason, I'm hung up on those pedals, probably because they're white, and I know you could have done so much better. Those pedals, however, are seriously UN-hot. I know that type are probably THE most popular, but they're a real shame. You could have gotten Time Xpresso / Mavic Zxellium pedals, which are so much hotter. If you wanted white, you could have gotten Xpresso 6 instead of those dopey clogs.

Meanwhile, it's unfortunate that they chose yellow for their branding, and you decided to follow through with yellow bar tape. Everything else in silver and that great red was so nice - again, it's a shame the look was ruined with that lurid lettering and tape.


Oh, and why aren't the brake cable housings looping above the bars like they're supposed to?

How's that?
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Originally Posted by kbarch
For some reason, I'm hung up on those pedals, probably because they're white, and I know you could have done so much better. Those pedals, however, are seriously UN-hot. I know that type are probably THE most popular, but they're a real shame. You could have gotten Time Xpresso / Mavic Zxellium pedals, which are so much hotter. If you wanted white, you could have gotten Xpresso 6 instead of those dopey clogs.
They are 1984 Look pedals. I know how people hate them, but those actually belong on the bike.


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Oh, and why aren't the brake cable housings looping above the bars like they're supposed to?
Not possible on those shifters(Gen 1 Ergo-Power)

Originally Posted by kbarch
How's that?
B-
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
They are 1984 Look pedals. I know how people hate them, but those actually belong on the bike.


Not possible on those shifters(Gen 1 Ergo-Power)

B-
I actually like the yellow, but what do I know?
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Originally Posted by noodle soup

I dig, feel like it needs a traditional bend handlebar though.
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Originally Posted by redlude97
To me it seems like if you have the knowledge and skill to make a threadless stem adapter, you would have been better off making a period appropriate quill stem that mounts to a modern drop bar. Threadless stems IMO don't look as good on old thin tubing frames
Depends: there's a couple of slim stems which IMO do look good with classic tubes. Syntace F99 (26.0) and F109 (31.8) and the Deda Superleggera (31.8).


Deda...




Syntace F99...
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Originally Posted by noodle soup

​​​​​​​Definitely hot! I've got those pedals in purple waiting for my Campy equipped Peugeot (which is a long-term project)
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Originally Posted by seau grateau
I dig, feel like it needs a traditional bend handlebar though.
it would look better, but I chose a more modern bend so that it would have a more comfortable transition to the hoods.
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Originally Posted by Timo 2.0
I think the compact bars further enhance the odd looks. Bars with a bigger drop would aesthetically be more pleasing.
It isn't the bars that makes that royal blue Domane bike look fugly. It is the 'choice' of geometry the OP made with monster head tube and short stem. The owner could have easily sized down for more traditional Domane fit.

Endurance bikes generally aren't going to win the Hot category. Their proportions belie that. But the blue Domane fit is a severe case because of the choice the owner made on geometry. There are endurance bikes out there with 2-3 inches of drop that look pretty good.

Cancellara's Domane with about 4-5 inches of drop he rides in the Paris Roubaix looks hot by contrast below: Custom H1 geometry which he sizes down from.


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Originally Posted by redlude97
To me it seems like if you have the knowledge and skill to make a threadless stem adapter, you would have been better off making a period appropriate quill stem that mounts to a modern drop bar. Threadless stems IMO don't look as good on old thin tubing frames
Those exist already. Two examples:

Velo Orange: https://velo-orange.com/products/qui...ceplate-31-8mm
Factory Five: https://wearefactoryfive.com/products/titan-stem

The latter is better but still fugly. Both are fairly expensive considering the short comings of each. The VO's angle is awful on a level top top tube frame but at least it comes in multiple lengths. I simply wouldn't trust that Factory Five stem being a full CNC'd part with a weak looking bar clamp design. And it is only available in 90mm length. Both are likely boat anchors. Neither allows for running the handlebars as low as my headset does.

With my headset design, you can pick any stem you like (length, angle, finish) and easily swap it out for something else should the need arise. And if the design is successful enough, what do you think the next item I plan on making is?
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