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Dude, chill - I'm going to bat for you. Soon enough, we'll have everybody appreciating how useful it is to be able to see lever clamp bands through the bar tape gaps and guys like Soupy over there will have to eat crow when it's virtually impossible to get a "Hot" without minding the gap.



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I hear ya. I went with yellow (keep in mind this was 20 years ago) to match the decals, though white would have been a better choice for the bars/saddle, with black/skinwall tires. The white would've tied in with the art on the top tube.
I miss that bike - to date, the best riding bike I've owned or ridden.
I hold high hopes for my current project, which has the same Columbus EL-OS tubing, and is a "proper" size for me (no more mile of seatpost with radical drop to the bars) 62.5 c-c....
The frame is still in transit from Europe. 1990 custom race build - it'll need a little refurbishing before I build it up.
Building the wheels this week, and have most of my build kit on hand - going Chorus 11.
Wheelset will be H Plus Son Archetype on Record hubs (both black) with polished Sapim cx-ray spokes and alloy nipples. Should be a good ride. I'll post here for scrutiny when I'm done.

I miss that bike - to date, the best riding bike I've owned or ridden.
I hold high hopes for my current project, which has the same Columbus EL-OS tubing, and is a "proper" size for me (no more mile of seatpost with radical drop to the bars) 62.5 c-c....
The frame is still in transit from Europe. 1990 custom race build - it'll need a little refurbishing before I build it up.
Building the wheels this week, and have most of my build kit on hand - going Chorus 11.
Wheelset will be H Plus Son Archetype on Record hubs (both black) with polished Sapim cx-ray spokes and alloy nipples. Should be a good ride. I'll post here for scrutiny when I'm done.


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I hear ya. I went with yellow (keep in mind this was 20 years ago) to match the decals, though white would have been a better choice for the bars/saddle, with black/skinwall tires. The white would've tied in with the art on the top tube.
I miss that bike - to date, the best riding bike I've owned or ridden.
I hold high hopes for my current project, which has the same Columbus EL-OS tubing, and is a "proper" size for me (no more mile of seatpost with radical drop to the bars) 62.5 c-c....
The frame is still in transit from Europe. 1990 custom race build - it'll need a little refurbishing before I build it up.
Building the wheels this week, and have most of my build kit on hand - going Chorus 11.
Wheelset will be H Plus Son Archetype on Record hubs (both black) with polished Sapim cx-ray spokes and alloy nipples. Should be a good ride. I'll post here for scrutiny when I'm done.
I miss that bike - to date, the best riding bike I've owned or ridden.
I hold high hopes for my current project, which has the same Columbus EL-OS tubing, and is a "proper" size for me (no more mile of seatpost with radical drop to the bars) 62.5 c-c....
The frame is still in transit from Europe. 1990 custom race build - it'll need a little refurbishing before I build it up.
Building the wheels this week, and have most of my build kit on hand - going Chorus 11.
Wheelset will be H Plus Son Archetype on Record hubs (both black) with polished Sapim cx-ray spokes and alloy nipples. Should be a good ride. I'll post here for scrutiny when I'm done.

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I have a NOS 3TTT Evol stem on hand, and NOS Nitto M106NAS bar coming from Japan. I'm open to other options for sure. PM if you'd like - we can take the conversation off hot-r-not
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Ok that is straight trolling. At least some constructive criticism as to why my bike sucks would be nice. I got a lot of compliments on my bike. It's American made titanium after all and weighs less than most 3k carbon bikes in the shop. Not sure if serious but do tell since trolling is allowed here.

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I know that many think of Ti as a "forever" frame material, but even if the bike is an uggo, I wouldn't drop anything heavy on the frame, let alone a 50-year old.

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Ha, Good I'll be sure to post more pics so you might choke on your vomit next time. You are just making me like my bike more.
Look I could call any chinese carbon made frame chinese cookie cutter crap and I wouldn't be wrong and, but it would just be my honest opinion. I could call any steel lugged frame a boat anchor, and I could call a colnago frame for what it is, a steel boat anchor that's nicely crafted, but doesn't measure up to a nicely crafted Ti frame that is much lighter.
So considering that I can do that here, your opinion is fair play and within the boundaries of the thread guideline. You give fair reasons that have been pointed out already without the vomiting of course. I guess you lose control of bodily functions as you get older. I will keep dropping 50 years olds and guys like you every day of the week especially the ones that claim to go 27mph "sitting in." What I think this is, is backlash for making fun of the retired group claiming to go 27mph sitting in. It they are going 27mph sitting in, and they are all 50 and up, that means the guy up front is pulling almost 500 watts. No 50 year old is going to maintain 500 watts for prolonged periods like they were claiming. If I offended you for calling them out on their BS, I don't care. Just leave my litespeed out of this. All bikes are a hodge podge of overpriced chinese parts, stop drinking the koolaid.
But I will buy a new group as this drivetrain wears out maybe a few years down the road. I'm thinking full Deore XT mountain drivetrain if that'll make you vomit more lol.

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Ha, Good I'll be sure to post more pics so you might choke on your vomit next time. You are just making me like my bike more.
Look I could call any chinese carbon made frame chinese cookie cutter crap and I wouldn't be wrong and, but it would just be my honest opinion. I could call any steel lugged frame a boat anchor, and I could call a colnago frame for what it is, a steel boat anchor that's nicely crafted, but doesn't measure up to a nicely crafted Ti frame that is much lighter.
So considering that I can do that here, your opinion is fair play and within the boundaries of the thread guideline. You give fair reasons that have been pointed out already without the vomiting of course. I guess you lose control of bodily functions as you get older. I will keep dropping 50 years olds and guys like you every day of the week especially the ones that claim to go 27mph "sitting in." What I think this is, is backlash for making fun of the retired group claiming to go 27mph sitting in. It they are going 27mph sitting in, and they are all 50 and up, that means the guy up front is pulling almost 500 watts. No 50 year old is going to maintain 500 watts for prolonged periods like they were claiming. If I offended you for calling them out on their BS, I don't care. Just leave my litespeed out of this. All bikes are a hodge podge of overpriced chinese parts, stop drinking the koolaid.
But I will buy a new group as this drivetrain wears out maybe a few years down the road. I'm thinking full Deore XT mountain drivetrain if that'll make you vomit more lol.
Look I could call any chinese carbon made frame chinese cookie cutter crap and I wouldn't be wrong and, but it would just be my honest opinion. I could call any steel lugged frame a boat anchor, and I could call a colnago frame for what it is, a steel boat anchor that's nicely crafted, but doesn't measure up to a nicely crafted Ti frame that is much lighter.
So considering that I can do that here, your opinion is fair play and within the boundaries of the thread guideline. You give fair reasons that have been pointed out already without the vomiting of course. I guess you lose control of bodily functions as you get older. I will keep dropping 50 years olds and guys like you every day of the week especially the ones that claim to go 27mph "sitting in." What I think this is, is backlash for making fun of the retired group claiming to go 27mph sitting in. It they are going 27mph sitting in, and they are all 50 and up, that means the guy up front is pulling almost 500 watts. No 50 year old is going to maintain 500 watts for prolonged periods like they were claiming. If I offended you for calling them out on their BS, I don't care. Just leave my litespeed out of this. All bikes are a hodge podge of overpriced chinese parts, stop drinking the koolaid.
But I will buy a new group as this drivetrain wears out maybe a few years down the road. I'm thinking full Deore XT mountain drivetrain if that'll make you vomit more lol.


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As said in the first opening post, a "Hot" or a "Not" is all that's to be posted. This isn't a trolling thread, as mentioned, nor is it a "you're mean, so I'll be meaner" thread.
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The frame may be older but it has modern shifters with a flat transition from bar to hoods and a shallow drop. Standard hand position BITD was the drops. Standard today is the hoods. To get the hoods as low as the drops he is probably riding a frame one size smaller than typical (typical being vintage frame with downtube shifters and old school drops) hence the extra seatpost. My retro-mod roadie (previously posted) is similar:


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At the same token I don't think people should complain when I criticize a bike with blunt honesty as well. For some reason after I began being more honest and critical people start bringing up my bike again that I posted weeks ago.

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Blah blah blah.

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should be interesting to read comments...

Handbuilt with Columbus Zona tubes. Ultegra shifting, Praxis Zayante crank, and Ritchey cockpit.
That 32mm stack of spacers is just reality, even though its built to fit me.

Handbuilt with Columbus Zona tubes. Ultegra shifting, Praxis Zayante crank, and Ritchey cockpit.
That 32mm stack of spacers is just reality, even though its built to fit me.

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Wouldn't call it hot, but super nice. I'd like to see it with silver components.

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