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Old 01-09-12, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Herbie53
The Look is an absolutely awesome machine, and the Mad Fiber wheels look much better without the decals, but for me the stem and the bend in the top tube make it a Not.
So all bikes with bent top tubes are automatically a 'Not'?
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Old 01-09-12, 07:05 PM
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So all bikes with bent top tubes are automatically a 'Not'?
I do not like the larger sizes of the Venge for the same reason (and it is not as pronounced). Your mileage may vary.
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Old 01-09-12, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tychom
This bike is hot... didja drive around looking for just the right blue garage door, or is that really what your's is painted? It sets off the yellow bike and matches the blue LOOK decals great...

I think LOOK bikes are hot in general, especially because the logos scream LOOK!
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JSS's Look is really cool. I like it. Aesthetically, I can deal with the integrated stuff. My only real gripe with the setup is the rotation of the bar. The saddle to bar drop/stem angle and the frame size hurt the overall hotness, but what can you do... Anyway, this setup creeps by because of it's unique aesthetic which doesn't make those things suck as much as some frames would.

Btw, 160g for a stem is not heavy. It's not exceptionally light, but I wouldn't be upset if every stem was 160g. Road stems really shouldn't be more than that, imo.

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Old 01-09-12, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JSS
SRAM RED, MAD FIBER WHEELS, ZERO GRAVITY BRAKES, LOOK BLADE CARBON Ti PEDALS:: 13.4LBS


I say hot even though I'm not a big fan of Mad Fiber or Sram.
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Old 01-09-12, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Propofol
So all bikes with bent top tubes are automatically a 'Not'?

probably...=-( i have a specialized roubaix, probably never hot...i'll do my best to present mine in a couple of weeks.
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Will Retake pic like the last few i was not aware of the rules.

Wll loose the CO2 i guess its a big no no. from day one every reply says loose it.
so now is gone. will find a better background.
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Jss the bike fitting YOU is the way to go! This thread is vain, still, if ypu presnt this bike correctly(following the rules) you will destroy many pages of NOT. ID LIKE TO SAY H_T!
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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
Oh, I didn't notice that about the stem length being adjustable. Like I said this Look brand stuff is all new to me. You should tell Steve that you are more flexible than that, and lower the stem. 160 is kinda heavy too. Anything over 150g is just plain unacceptable.
Not when you don't need the extra 20 grams in spacers.. It is not a direct swap for a standard stem. This replaces the whole stack...
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Old 01-10-12, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JSS
Thanks for the feedback, although your information about the stem is not correct, the stem is adjustable by 10mm, here are the specifications from Look's website, I have the 120mm to 130mm length:

C-STEM INCLINABLE FROM -9° TO +13° AND
ADJUSTABLE IN LENGTH (10mm) - 5 LENGTHS
AVAILABLE = 80 – 90 / 90-100 /
100-110/110-120/120-130 mm

As far as the angle of the Stem, the bike was fit by one of the top Bike fitters in the world : Steve Hogg, that is how he set it based on my sizing and flexibility. I understand from an aesthetic point of view it would look better angled down more but that is how the bike fits me.

As far as the weight the Stem only weighs 160grams.
JSS, why are we going through this whole shananigan again?!!!!
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-r-Not/page167
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Old 01-10-12, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by milkbaby
This bike is hot... didja drive around looking for just the right blue garage door, or is that really what your's is painted? It sets off the yellow bike and matches the blue LOOK decals great...
Not my doors and quite bizarre chance that I came across them. My shake down ride was aimed down at the river Marne where I figured I'd stop, take photos and come back again. A nice easy first ride. So I get where I want to be - in front of one boat house looking out across the river with some nice buildings on the far bank but the day is overcast and the river is dull. It's far from inspiring right there and then. So I'm thinking what to do as I turn around and notice that the boat house I'm in front of has these huge blue doors pretty much identical to the blue on the bike. Perfect I think.

Other good/lucky colour coordinations: the Ultegra SL 'Ice Grey' anodising is more or less identical to that of the 3T 'Gunmetal' grey on the Status/Prima 220 combo up front.

I think LOOK bikes are hot in general, especially because the logos scream LOOK!
I think their paint schemes have been pretty hit and miss myself (except these last couple of years which have been pretty top), but I noticed plenty of people did Look as I went past. It's hard not to be noticed on a giant banana bike.
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Old 01-10-12, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by echotraveler
Jss the bike fitting YOU is the way to go! This thread is vain, still, if ypu presnt this bike correctly(following the rules) you will destroy many pages of NOT. ID LIKE TO SAY H_T!
Thanks for the note, The thread is hot or not, and Hot or not is all personal preference. Some will like it some will not, I just enjoy the conversation and different point of views.

At the end of the day I bought the bike for fit and performance, it provided the best fit, comfort and performance I could find. I am 49 the time for aggressive drops and stem angles is gone for me.

The integrated stem and fork provides insane handling, and the power transfer from the integrated cranks in incredible. I have been able to increase my average speed on my last century by 1.5mph to 21.8mph and have no neck or back stress at all.
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Old 01-10-12, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Tychom
Hot. Possibly even hotter with a different crankset though. Also, with such an aggressively styled seatpost it would be more visually balanced with the saddle further back, but obviously that's a matter of fit.
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Old 01-10-12, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by UCIMBZ
JSS, why are we going through this whole shananigan again?!!!!
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-r-Not/page167
Good investigative work.

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post13327837
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Old 01-10-12, 10:45 AM
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Tychom's Look is hot, but mostly because the frameset colors and bar position. I would have gone with different components all the way around except maybe the stem. The bike needs classic bend handlebars and a Campy groupset. Then it would be HOT.

Btw, what kind of stem is that?
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Ok watever JSS. NOT
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Originally Posted by ilovecycling
Tychom's Look is hot, but mostly because the frameset colors and bar position. I would have gone with different components all the way around except maybe the stem. The bike needs classic bend handlebars and a Campy groupset. Then it would be HOT.

Btw, what kind of stem is that?
The Look integrated.. Comes with the 695..
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Old 01-10-12, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sbxx1985
Repost with the stem lowered, and the horrific logos on the wheels removed
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What about the medical condition?

I see you deleted the original post.
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Old 01-10-12, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sbxx1985
What about the medical condition?
I cannot find the original post, but I am guessing the adjustable stem was an add that allows removing spacers and ease of adjustment for photos.
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Old 01-10-12, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by UCIMBZ
JSS, why are we going through this whole shananigan again?!!!!
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-r-Not/page167
Now that I am over my injury and done with rehab I am pain free and pain med free, I am a happier and very content person, and none of your usual BS bothers me. In fact...

I know you are a great guy and a world renown expert of bike esthetics, and as you see, I flipped it and got rid of the horrible wheel decals as you suggested and as a result of your outstanding guidance and council my ride looks 100% better. I owe you a debt of gratitude!!

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Old 01-10-12, 01:26 PM
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The Look Integrated Stem gets a Hot.



I'm a steel fan, so CF looks odd to me. But from a standpoint of the dispassionate observer, the stem really fits the lines, design, and paint of the look's frame. Part of the CF aesthetic is that whole smooth bulkiness thing. It works. I like.
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Plus it's a neat idea. You buy your bike, adjust it to fit. No need to buy anything more.
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Plus it's a neat idea. You buy your bike, adjust it to fit. No need to buy anything more.
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Take another look at Look's site, maybe.
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