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abstractform20 02-05-12 09:40 PM

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...1/IMAG0026.jpg

pardon the mismatched cages, and ugly handlebars: it was a budget build. if only the 50cm top tube were a little bit longer...didnt feel like commissioning a custom seatpost...but if i still had it, i probably would. i loved this bike.

it had much potential.

notice the 37cm chainstays.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...107235-800.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...813951-800.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...314666-800.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...017210-800.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...677361-800.jpg

trobinson017 02-05-12 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 13814064)
My tri-geek contribution. I am planning to get the new "beyond black" Zipp decals and I've got to cut the steerer down, but otherwise it's pretty utilitarian--a comfortable and powerful aero position won over sexiness on this build. Argon's geometry ended up being a decent match for my somewhat funky measurements.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...177/photo8.jpg

This flippin' looks like a bike a Star Wars Stormtrooper would ride! Wicked geometry but very beautiful!

X-LinkedRider 02-05-12 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by abstractform20 (Post 13814338)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...1/IMAG0026.jpg

pardon the mismatched cages, and ugly handlebars: it was a budget build. if only the 50cm top tube were a little bit longer...didnt feel like commissioning a custom seatpost...but if i still had it, i probably would. i loved this bike.

it had much potential.

Why not just buy a longer seatpost and cut the bottom of the seatpost off at the rite height.

abstractform20 02-05-12 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by X-LinkedRider (Post 13814607)
Why not just buy a longer seatpost and cut the bottom of the seatpost off at the rite height.

what the hell are you talking about? a longer seatpost? i had to cut the seatpost to fit.

the top tube was only 50cm; i needed more offset, and nobody had what i needed.

even a selle smp (longest usable rail length) didnt work. needed a little bit more.

thus, i did not feel like spending about $200 on a saddle and $100 or more on a quality custom seatpost.

X-LinkedRider 02-05-12 10:43 PM

Got you. Thought you meant because of the shape of the seat tube, you couldn't get one that was the right height. Didn't even occur that you'd want the seat further back.

abstractform20 02-05-12 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by X-LinkedRider (Post 13814658)
Got you. Thought you meant because of the shape of the seat tube, you couldn't get one that was the right height. Didn't even occur that you'd want the seat further back.

nah...but setting the saddle height was a bjtch. the shape of the seat tube meant i had to cut gradually to get it just right and leave enough
seatpost to be safe.

DrPete 02-05-12 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by trobinson017 (Post 13814417)
This flippin' looks like a bike a Star Wars Stormtrooper would ride! Wicked geometry but very beautiful!

Now that you mention it, the gloss white with black graphics and the tube shapes actually do look very stormtrooper-ish. I like it even more. :)

DRietz 02-06-12 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 13814202)
Especially the pre-buyout Kleins. I remember mountain biking back in the 90s and actually thinking this thing was the most gorgeous bike ever. Times do change--thankfully. ;)

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/fil...adroit_809.jpg

Is it weird that this is my favorite bike in this thread?

Maybe it's just because I'm a total mountain bike dork. And a retro nerd.

:drool:

dgasmd 02-06-12 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 13814064)

What happened with the Cervelo?

ancker 02-06-12 03:17 PM

I'm sure there's an anatomical reason for the setup on that Argon. But with the bars that far above the top tube it's a definite Not.
Also, a compact on a TT/Tri bike. Yuck.

Desertrats97 02-06-12 03:27 PM

I agree ancker. not

DrPete 02-06-12 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by dgasmd (Post 13815333)
What happened with the Cervelo?

It was a little too long-and-low for my recently-operated-on shoulder. And honestly just a better fit overall.

DrPete 02-06-12 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by ancker (Post 13817283)
I'm sure there's an anatomical reason for the setup on that Argon. But with the bars that far above the top tube it's a definite Not.
Also, a compact on a TT/Tri bike. Yuck.

Yeah, much better to be uncomfortable and have gearing that's totally useless for the hilly Tri courses near home. On second thought I'll gladly take your disdain. You must use that 53/11 quite a bit.

X-LinkedRider 02-06-12 06:06 PM

He's from Illinois. I'm with you Pete. I live where there isn't more than 100ft of level road. The races don't magically avoid the hills simply because people want their bikes to look cool. ;) Sweet ass ride Pete as always. Dress to Impress ;)

Soloist Assassin 02-06-12 06:25 PM

I made this chart once to compare the difference in speeds in mph at 90rpm in each gear. A 50-11, is still taller than a 53-12. Which I found interesting when I first figured that out. I run a compact on all my bikes now after this realization.

http://crxbart.com/cycling/gearchart.JPG

Drag 02-06-12 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 13814202)
Especially the pre-buyout Kleins. I remember mountain biking back in the 90s and actually thinking this thing was the most gorgeous bike ever. Times do change--thankfully. ;)

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/fil...adroit_809.jpg

I'm a closet Klein lover. Drooled over them back in the 90s too. Couldn't afford them back then, so I built this up instead:

http://www.cianperez.com/photos/main...serialNumber=2

Ahhh, those were good times.

ancker 02-06-12 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 13817761)
Yeah, much better to be uncomfortable and have gearing that's totally useless for the hilly Tri courses near home. On second thought I'll gladly take your disdain. You must use that 53/11 quite a bit.

This is "Hot or Not". I chose Not.
Others may disagree, they have that right. The bike probably works absolutely great for you. That's awesome. I hope that you get thousands of wonderful miles on it this year. But in a thread dedicated to subjective opinions about the looks of a bike, I give it a not. No disrespect was intended.

Also, I don't have to be able to effectively utilize the power of a Ferrari to appreciate its beauty.

ancker 02-06-12 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 13818095)
I made this chart once to compare the difference in speeds in mph at 90rpm in each gear. A 50-11, is still taller than a 53-12. Which I found interesting when I first figured that out. I run a compact on all my bikes now after this realization.

Not questioning that one bit. But I think a standard crank looks best on a TT bike. More so on a TT bike that big. Hence my vote of "Not".

Propofol 02-06-12 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by ancker (Post 13818855)
But in a thread dedicated to objective opinions about the looks of a bike, I give it a not.

Oxymoron? :)

DrPete 02-06-12 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by ancker (Post 13818855)
This is "Hot or Not". I chose Not.
Others may disagree, they have that right. The bike probably works absolutely great for you. That's awesome. I hope that you get thousands of wonderful miles on it this year. But in a thread dedicated to objective opinions about the looks of a bike, I give it a not. No disrespect was intended.

Also, I don't have to be able to effectively utilize the power of a Ferrari to appreciate its beauty.

Fair enough. That's why I said I'll take the disdain. After all, real beauty is when the guy you're about to pass hears the Zipps coming. :)

ancker 02-06-12 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by Propofol (Post 13818881)
Oxymoron? :)

Yeah sorry. Subjective. TV made my fingers type a word I wasn't thinking. :)

Ultraslide 02-06-12 09:45 PM

I don't own a garage door. This is what you get, carport.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5...66-k/photo.JPG

ljsense 02-06-12 10:16 PM

That Argon has got way too much sh-- going on that says "I'm a triathlete!" for my taste. For instance, there are the butt rocket water bottles, and some kind of appendage on the aero bars for eating and drinking. And there's that heavily nose-padded seat that just says "come here, Speedo!"

On the non-correctable side, the head tube has a lot of trailing material that may or may not have any aerodynamic advantage. On the correctable side, I am troubled by the vast amount of spare steering tube and spacers above the stem.

I too find fault with the compact crankset for a TT bike. I find fault with a 53/39. I like to see the A-Type crankset with some 177.5s or 180s. I'm running a 55/42. Big wicked Dura-Ace 7800 like some insane surgical tool. That's the Shi-- that Will Kill Them.

Lastly, what's with the Argon name? A heavy nonreactive gas?

But yes votes on the black and white Cannondale road bike, the vulgar Purple Rain Klein and the Oakley Cannondale MTB.

mazdaspeed 02-06-12 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by Ultraslide (Post 13818934)
I don't own a garage door. This is what you get, carport.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5...66-k/photo.JPG

would ride

WHOOOSSHHH... 02-07-12 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 13814064)
My tri-geek contribution. I am planning to get the new "beyond black" Zipp decals and I've got to cut the steerer down, but otherwise it's pretty utilitarian--a comfortable and powerful aero position won over sexiness on this build. Argon's geometry ended up being a decent match for my somewhat funky measurements.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...177/photo8.jpg

No brainer....HOT!


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