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Old 02-22-12, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by UCIMBZ
Should we call an ambulance?
More like the Burn Unit. Lol. It's just calling troll on a thread without any reason is trolling in itself. If you are going to use the word on every bike you dislike, learn what it means at least. You really bring down the class that your bikes bring to the thread.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Why? Particularly if it's not a hard-core LBS, it's not unusual for an entry-level bike to be built up with the full stack of spacers and the stem up. It's also not unusual for someone to have platforms on their first roadie, for a little while. Other than those two issues and the reflectors (mandated, and the bike is obviously still in the shop), what else is so egregious as to call "troll"?
Nothing. He thinks if it is not staged exactly as his, it what he deems a "troll". I am pretty sure he doesn't understand when or why something is a troll. There isn't enough space in his dedicated mindset to allow that kind of range of thought. Luckily, for his personality, his bikes are so damn nice looking, otherwise he wouldn't even be worth the response in education. Money can't buy class, that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Why? Particularly if it's not a hard-core LBS, it's not unusual for an entry-level bike to be built up with the full stack of spacers and the stem up. It's also not unusual for someone to have platforms on their first roadie, for a little while. Other than those two issues and the reflectors (mandated, and the bike is obviously still in the shop), what else is so egregious as to call "troll"?
I should call an ambulance.
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Originally Posted by X-LinkedRider
Nothing. He thinks if it is not staged exactly as his, it what he deems a "troll". I am pretty sure he doesn't understand when or why something is a troll. There isn't enough space in his dedicated mindset to allow that kind of range of thought. Luckily, for his personality, his bikes are so damn nice looking, otherwise he wouldn't even be worth the response in education. Money can't buy class, that's for sure.
Theres a certain aesthetic in this thread. A proper way to stage a bike. He clearly broke every single one of the rules. Maybe it wasn't on purpose, but a few other people have done it to troll. Even a first bike on platform pedals can be staged and photographed properly, it's not like only $5000 bikes can be leaned against garage doors.
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Originally Posted by X-LinkedRider
Nothing. He thinks if it is not staged exactly as his, it what he deems a "troll". I am pretty sure he doesn't understand when or why something is a troll. There isn't enough space in his dedicated mindset to allow that kind of range of thought. Luckily, for his personality, his bikes are so damn nice looking, otherwise he wouldn't even be worth the response in education. Money can't buy class, that's for sure.
This is not the America I remember. We used to scrutinize mediocrity. Now we embrace and nourish it. It may not be trolling but it sure is a slap in the face. Better than that “trash can picture” though.
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Originally Posted by UCIMBZ
I should call an ambulance.
Or you could answer a reasonable question - what's so egregious?

If he were breaking every "rule," yeah, I'd agree with you, but that doesn't seem to be the intent.
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Originally Posted by Yaniel
Theres a certain aesthetic in this thread. A proper way to stage a bike. He clearly broke every single one of the rules. Maybe it wasn't on purpose, but a few other people have done it to troll. Even a first bike on platform pedals can be staged and photographed properly, it's not like only $5000 bikes can be leaned against garage doors.
It's also a thread with close to 7000 posts - we know the "rules," but where would someone new find them? Not in the original post, that's for sure.
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Old 02-22-12, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
It's also a thread with close to 7000 posts - we know the "rules," but where would someone new find them? Not in the original post, that's for sure.

It's implicit. Kinda like a secret handshake.
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Originally Posted by UCIMBZ
This is not the America I remember. We used to scrutinize mediocrity. Now we embrace and nourish it. It may not be trolling but it sure is a slap in the face. Better than that “trash can picture” though.
Well this would have been an acceptable response. If there are acceptable to post entries into the thread, there are also acceptable ways to reply. Just saying Troll, is not acceptable. Especially when the only thing that says troll about that picture is your response with absolutely no reason why. The America you are referring to wouldn't just slap somebody in the face, they would say Why. That is all. I don't think anyone has a problem with you disliking the entries and saying NOT + reasons. (Though you have taken some heat just for that as well, lol) But to just blatantly misuse the purpose of calling somebody a troll is the exact reason people like you think troll means whatever they want it to. If you are going to be a stickler for rules, stick to them. Trying to explain why somebody's bike doesn't deserve to be in a thread about bikes, but there is plenty of room for misuse of forum specific terms to get that point across does not even come close to logical computation.

The Raleigh = Not Hot
Cannondle and Willier = Just Hot.

Bike next to trash can always = Not Hot
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Originally Posted by Yaniel
It's implicit. Kinda like a secret handshake.
So is the understanding of the word troll. You don't need to scream it out every-time you think there is one, especially if you don't know what it means. Implicit is implied, which means you shouldn't have to bring mention it everytime somebody gets it wrong. Just exclaim, "Not' and reasons. Move along.

Don't get me wrong Yani, I love your website and your Hobby Acquisition Disorder But UCI can fight his own battles and if he can't, here is probably a reason for that. He does just fine though on his own. But for as often as he corrects people in here, he is a target for correction when he is in need.
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Originally Posted by jmtomasz
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Kept the Garmin Edge for the pic since it matched the bike







Still adjusting to the upgrades before getting a fit and the steerer cut.
JM,

I like your bike.



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Originally Posted by Yaniel
It's implicit. Kinda like a secret handshake.
Yet long-time members such as Whooshie, and his bikes are fuggin' hot, don't have the aesthetic down pat. People with some time behind the camera get it, but not everyone has that eye. I think that the Raleigh above is a case of new rider (and new bike) + no eye = "not," but not such an emphatic "not" as to declare him a troll. (Although, FWIW, I like the potential of the bike - with 30 minutes of work, it could be a looker.)
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just rate the damn bikes and stop the *****ing
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Originally Posted by UCIMBZ
This is not the America I remember. We used to scrutinize mediocrity. Now we embrace and nourish it. It may not be trolling but it sure is a slap in the face. Better than that “trash can picture” though.
I hate to say it but I agree with UCIMBZ, there are so many ordinary bikes here that people deem hot.
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Originally Posted by UCIMBZ
I call troll on this one.
He is right, it is a freakin Raleigh, just a plain boring bike.
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Originally Posted by JSS
I hate to say it but I agree with UCIMBZ, there are so many ordinary bikes here that people deem hot.
I agree, but this is a strawman set up by Busy, and not what X and I are addressing.
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Originally Posted by Holden McNeil
My 2010 CR1 Pro. The handlebar angle is up a little but not nearly as bad as the pictures make it look.



Custom matte black "Cosmic" logos on the wheels...

Hott Scott.

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Originally Posted by jmtomasz
Wilier Izoard XP
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Kept the Garmin Edge for the pic since it matched the bike







Still adjusting to the upgrades before getting a fit and the steerer cut.

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Originally Posted by NathanC
Stem is fine, spacers; not so much.
No, the stem may look fine, but those 3T stems flex a lot. I have one sitting here, and I can feel it flex in my hands. If your fit results in a different stem. Do yourself a favor, and go with something else.

Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH...
Come on SA your gonna let that picture slide? Your getting soft...
The man has my favorite wheels on his car. Gotta give him some cut him some slack for that.
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Originally Posted by cuda2k
Okay enough with the troll face and the fat man. If you two want to keep going at each other, do it somewhere else.
This place should be called the NFL...
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Yet long-time members such as Whooshie, and his bikes are fuggin' hot, don't have the aesthetic down pat.)
Got to admit you are 100% correct on that one...plus my picture taking stinks also..Most respected judges in my opinion here are UCIMBZ, SA and 2nd GEN..pure biking enthusiasts, great threads, and know how to judge and stage...
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Originally Posted by RedLeg
Willier...sweet bike. Does that thing come in any other color scheme?
I purchased mine on CC with their feature bike program. I think the 2011 (mine) came in two colors. The red/black/white and the one below:

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Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH...
Got to admit you are 100% correct on that one...plus my picture taking stinks also..Most respected judges in my opinion here are UCIMBZ, SA and 2nd GEN..pure biking enthusiasts, great threads, and know how to judge and stage...
Well shucks, I feel honored WOOOOOSSHHHIE!
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Originally Posted by jmtomasz
I purchased mine on CC with their feature bike program. I think the 2011 (mine) came in two colors. The red/black/white and the one below:
Your color scheme is much better!
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Well shucks, I feel honored WOOOOOSSHHHIE!
Ditto.

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