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02-23-12, 01:16 PM
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02-23-12, 01:17 PM
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if it was a bridgestone rb1 from any other year than the 1993-1994 series then I'd actually go "full weight weenie" on this build. but the 93/94 RB-1's had the unique double crown forks that they are known for.
I do have the urge to at least try out painting/matching a 1" carbon fork (maybe a a easton EC90) that would drop almost 2lbs off... but then I might as well buy a another bike and work from there (hint.. I'm thinking of doing just that with a colnago master x-light).
I do have the urge to at least try out painting/matching a 1" carbon fork (maybe a a easton EC90) that would drop almost 2lbs off... but then I might as well buy a another bike and work from there (hint.. I'm thinking of doing just that with a colnago master x-light).
02-23-12, 01:20 PM
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Really? That is the one thing I don't like about that bike. If it were mine I would put a modern threadless fork, carbon perhaps. Not only would it be much lighter, but it would get the stack height lower for a better more aero bar height. I think a -17deg stem would look better as well with the flat top tube.
02-23-12, 01:21 PM
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Bridgestone has a nice mix of new and old.
It'd be off the charts hot with the polished Campag Athena...
It'd be off the charts hot with the polished Campag Athena...
02-23-12, 01:25 PM
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So if I took pics of all the parts I have amassed would it be better? Need pedals and seatpost still...
Top speed in the woods to date was 36+ mph with trees and rocks whizzing by. Big Ring not required... 
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02-23-12, 01:28 PM
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if it was a bridgestone rb1 from any other year than the 1993-1994 series then I'd actually go "full weight weenie" on this build. but the 93/94 RB-1's had the unique double crown forks that they are known for.
I do have the urge to at least try out painting/matching a 1" carbon fork (maybe a a easton EC90) that would drop almost 2lbs off... but then I might as well buy a another bike and work from there (hint.. I'm thinking of doing just that with a colnago master x-light).
I do have the urge to at least try out painting/matching a 1" carbon fork (maybe a a easton EC90) that would drop almost 2lbs off... but then I might as well buy a another bike and work from there (hint.. I'm thinking of doing just that with a colnago master x-light).
I knew I was going to get flack by the purists for that comment. While I do like that frame a lot. To me a heavy steel fork is just a heavy steel fork. I've also always hated threaded forks, and quill stems ever since I was riding a 20" as a kid before threadless was invented. I knew there had to be a better way. Fortunately Dia-Compe thought so too.
02-23-12, 01:49 PM
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Okay. Just finished rebuilding the bike up with Force. New tires (Duro Hypersonics), and saddle (Selle- Italia Carbonio Flow SL). Old weight - 19.1lbs, New weight 17.6lbs as pictured.
02-23-12, 02:11 PM
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I knew you would understand Doc. I figured painting it to match would most likely have to happen as well. I would try it first unpainted, and if I didn't like it I would paint the fork yellow.
I knew I was going to get flack by the purists for that comment. While I do like that frame a lot. To me a heavy steel fork is just a heavy steel fork. I've also always hated threaded forks, and quill stems ever since I was riding a 20" as a kid before threadless was invented. I knew there had to be a better way. Fortunately Dia-Compe thought so too.
I knew I was going to get flack by the purists for that comment. While I do like that frame a lot. To me a heavy steel fork is just a heavy steel fork. I've also always hated threaded forks, and quill stems ever since I was riding a 20" as a kid before threadless was invented. I knew there had to be a better way. Fortunately Dia-Compe thought so too.
have you tried riding good steel lately? a good steel frame is hard to explain - its alive and stiff but actually flexes and bends over very sharp bumps. this fork does the same thing. I've ridden 40+mph down bear mountain on both a carbon frame and this frame and the steel RB-1 frame and fork actually feels safer and you're in more control.
lets just say I'm a "born again believer" in steel.
about steel forks/frames: it goes back to having a good reference though. a lot of people mistake aluminum forks (like the ones on cheaper roadbikes/hybrids) to being steel... which eventually sadly equates that steel=harsh. its the exact opposite though.
02-23-12, 02:16 PM
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But there is a lot more out there than visuals/weight. Just happens to be the 2 easiest things to judge on being that all bikes can use the exact same drive train (for the most part). All that is left is Frame/Fork and if that amazing Frame/fork doesn't appeal to somebody they lose.
02-23-12, 02:22 PM
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I still can't believe it says "manocoque" on the frame.
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02-23-12, 02:27 PM
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I put a carbon fork on my old 80's Schwinn Traveler, and it was a huge improvement. The carbon fork wasn't much heavier, but it was a hundred times stiffer, and improved the handling exponentially. What matters to me most in a bike is weight, stiffness, and aerodynamics. Appearance, and "ride quality" are aspects that don't matter much to me. I use my bikes for racing, so that is my point of view. I suppose if I used it for commuting, or something than I would value other aspects more. As for the "REDWHITEBLACK" statement. Personally I prefer as little paint as possible. That's what I like about that bike posted above. It just so happens that manufactures all seem to like that color combo a lot for some reason. It wouldn't bother me at all if manufactures started using a metallic blue like the Fizik tape, and saddles come in. Personally I love that color. Also don't forget, I have a Red, White, and Blue Trek. Granted it is in the process of becoming just raw clear coated carbon fiber.
02-23-12, 02:35 PM
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we're both weight weenies by nature - we both had the same thoughts about trying out a carbon fork.. its just in our nature to weigh weenie-fy in our minds.
have you tried riding good steel lately? a good steel frame is hard to explain - its alive and stiff but actually flexes and bends over very sharp bumps. this fork does the same thing. I've ridden 40+mph down bear mountain on both a carbon frame and this frame and the steel RB-1 frame and fork actually feels safer and you're in more control.
lets just say I'm a "born again believer" in steel.
02-23-12, 02:47 PM
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Right, I have no idea what I am talking about. I put a carbon fork on my old 80's Schwinn Traveler, and it was a huge improvement. The carbon fork wasn't much heavier, but it was a hundred times stiffer, and improved the handling exponentially. What matters to me most in a bike is weight, stiffness, and aerodynamics. Appearance, and "ride quality" are aspects that don't matter much to me. I use my bikes for racing, so that is my point of view. I suppose if I used it for commuting, or something than I would value other aspects more.
As for the "REDWHITEBLACK" statement. Personally I prefer as little paint as possible. That's what I like about that bike posted above. It just so happens that manufactures all seem to like that color combo a lot for some reason. It wouldn't bother me at all if manufactures started using a metallic blue like the Fizik tape, and saddles come in. Personally I love that color. Also don't forget, I have a Red, White, and Blue Trek. Granted it is in the process of becoming just raw clear coated carbon fiber.
I put a carbon fork on my old 80's Schwinn Traveler, and it was a huge improvement. The carbon fork wasn't much heavier, but it was a hundred times stiffer, and improved the handling exponentially. What matters to me most in a bike is weight, stiffness, and aerodynamics. Appearance, and "ride quality" are aspects that don't matter much to me. I use my bikes for racing, so that is my point of view. I suppose if I used it for commuting, or something than I would value other aspects more. As for the "REDWHITEBLACK" statement. Personally I prefer as little paint as possible. That's what I like about that bike posted above. It just so happens that manufactures all seem to like that color combo a lot for some reason. It wouldn't bother me at all if manufactures started using a metallic blue like the Fizik tape, and saddles come in. Personally I love that color. Also don't forget, I have a Red, White, and Blue Trek. Granted it is in the process of becoming just raw clear coated carbon fiber.
02-23-12, 02:58 PM
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02-23-12, 03:16 PM
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rjones28,
Ah, memories, like the corners of my mind. I once rode that same RB-1 frame in yellow (55 cm) with Shimano 600 gruppo, back in the day. It was a delightful machine. Thanks for posting yours and allowing me a pleasant reminiscence. I don't think my Bridgestone was ever as sharp as yours. Nicely done.
Ah, memories, like the corners of my mind. I once rode that same RB-1 frame in yellow (55 cm) with Shimano 600 gruppo, back in the day. It was a delightful machine. Thanks for posting yours and allowing me a pleasant reminiscence. I don't think my Bridgestone was ever as sharp as yours. Nicely done.
02-23-12, 03:40 PM
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02-23-12, 03:58 PM
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02-23-12, 04:21 PM
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mentioning putting athena on that bridgestone, i tried to look for a picture of franks yellow bridgestone with athena. google told me thats his actual frame you bought. cray. https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...tone-RB-1-1993
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Must I remind everyone that according to whoooosh the only three people on this forum that know anything about what is hot or not are UCIMBZ, 2ndgen and soloist assissin. No one else needs to question or argue about anything within this thread anymore. 
02-23-12, 04:38 PM
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rjones28,
Ah, memories, like the corners of my mind. I once rode that same RB-1 frame in yellow (55 cm) with Shimano 600 gruppo, back in the day. It was a delightful machine. Thanks for posting yours and allowing me a pleasant reminiscence. I don't think my Bridgestone was ever as sharp as yours. Nicely done.
Ah, memories, like the corners of my mind. I once rode that same RB-1 frame in yellow (55 cm) with Shimano 600 gruppo, back in the day. It was a delightful machine. Thanks for posting yours and allowing me a pleasant reminiscence. I don't think my Bridgestone was ever as sharp as yours. Nicely done.
That RB-1 belongs to runningDoc.
