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Old 03-03-12, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JSS
Lets start with ugly and heavy wheel set, get rid of the stickers (how do you name a wheel set pro lite and have them weigh 1900g? https://prolitewheels.com/cgi-bin/Web...a/page?id=7410) White handle bar tape and white seats are for people who do not ride and are never hot. Just want to mention that the frame is cheap and only a 12k carbon weave you can buy a complete 105 bike for $1400.00
Incorrect. It is just for people who don't mind changing their **** more often than another color.


Let's not let our personal feelings get in the way of logic here. (oh wait, FAR TOO LATE for that).

The updated pictures of the look are awesome. Definitely don't need a 3t/zipp stem to fit in - in my mind. Besides you have gone from (WTF is with that bar height) to 'HOT' with a free adjustment. People wanting you to buy a stem that is not even close to comparable to replace that look stem is like asking you to replace your porsche wheels with pep boy wheels because they look cooler.

Both the colnagos are HOT and I have always been a fan of TCR's.

UCI, those MAX LELLI's are beautiful despite the heavy ass wheels.

Glad to see this thread turned around as quickly as is turned bad!
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Old 03-03-12, 03:44 PM
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I'm sorry, but that Look stem is the ugliest piece of trash, I've ever seen.
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Originally Posted by I <3 Robots
I don't care what the BF nitpickers say...the Alpha is plain badass.

I highly doubt this is an off the shelf frame. So to the guys hating on the color...if you were able to afford one. I'm sure you can custom paint it whatever color you want.



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+1 clearly money wasn't an issue with this bike. I am sure you could have gotten it painted with purple flames if you really wanted. Lol. (I used to have a kickass Dodge Dakota Full size raised up with purple flames (front quarter) on black paint. - not my color choice, but the truck was too good not to purchase on that alone. It served me well)
What something costs and what somebody pays for it are totally different things as well. So that 20k is probably more like 10 realistically.
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Originally Posted by X-LinkedRider
+1 clearly money wasn't an issue with this bike. I am sure you could have gotten it painted with purple flames if you really wanted. Lol. (I used to have a kickass Dodge Dakota Full size raised up with purple flames (front quarter) on black paint. - not my color choice, but the truck was too good not to purchase on that alone. It served me well)
What something costs and what somebody pays for it are totally different things as well. So that 20k is probably more like 10 realistically.

No its 20k, they make them to order, believe me I tried to negotiate, you ever try to bargain down a German who doesn't need the $$$$$
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The thing with AX Lightness is...is their stuff actually costs that much. I highly doubt that you can realistically build that particular bike for 10k.

The brake set alone will set you back 1500 bucks. Unless you have one heck of a connection...10k is not possible.
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Old 03-03-12, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by I <3 Robots
The thing with AX Lightness is...is their stuff actually costs that much. I highly doubt that you can realistically build that particular bike for 10k.

The brake set alone will set you back 1500 bucks. Unless you have one heck of a connection...10k is not possible.
The frame is priced starting at $8900 plus shipping and duty from Germany up to $11,900.00 depending on things like paint scheme and internal wiring for Di2. base frame would land you mid 9k. The stem is 995, the seat is 575, , the brakes are 995, the wheels are 2500, the cranks are 1800, the seatpost is 575, then you have to buy the groupo, that's about 17,500 before all the other parts (pedals, cages, tires etc..)

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Hasn't AX had a rash of recent failures? I seem to remember hearing about the seatposts breaking. That would be an expensive, and eventually painful purchase.
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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
Hasn't AX had a rash of recent failures? I seem to remember hearing about the seatposts breaking. That would be an expensive, and eventually painful purchase.
so you are telling me they will get you from behind twice?
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
so you are telling me they will get you from behind twice?
With no lube....

Frame has a weight limit of 165lbs
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Originally Posted by JSS
With no lube....

Frame has a weight limit of 165lbs
my 6'1" 175lb build is out (my bank account, wife, and backside are all thankful)
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
so you are telling me they will get you from behind twice?
Pretty much....

Originally Posted by JSS
With no lube....

Frame has a weight limit of 165lbs
Wow I feel fat right now. I only make the cut by 5lbs.
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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
Pretty much....



Wow I feel fat right now. I only make the cut by 5lbs.
you would probably have to cut 10 to be safe
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Old 03-03-12, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
so you are telling me they will get you from behind twice?
Originally Posted by JSS
you would probably have to cut 10 to be safe
I will by summer. Still, that's ridiculous. I dare to say the stiffness of their $1000 stem is most likely certainly lacking. I wanted to buy an Extralite stem when I ended up buying my Zipp SCSL. I decided stiffness>weight on that purchase. It was a tough call, but I figure I can always buy an Extralite later. The AX is another 30-40g lighter than Extralite. That is just plain scarey.
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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
I will by summer. Still, that's ridiculous. I dare to say the stiffness of their $1000 stem is most likely certainly lacking. I wanted to buy an Extralite stem when I ended up buying my Zipp SCSL. I decided stiffness>weight on that purchase. It was a tough call, but I figure I can always buy an Extralite later. The AX is another 30-40g lighter than Extralite. That is just plain scarey.
It really is a work of art, it is definitely a second or third bike probably for climbing, I am 6ft 157, they told me for climbing out of the saddle I should be under 150 using their stem
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Originally Posted by JSS
It really is a work of art, it is definitely a second or third bike probably for climbing, I am 6ft 157, they told me for climbing out of the saddle I should be under 150 using their stem
Yeah, as much of a weight weenie as I am. One place I would rather not skimp on stiffness is the stem. I value the stiffness for climbing, and sprinting quite a bit.
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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
Yeah, as much of a weight weenie as I am. One place I would rather not skimp on stiffness is the stem. I value the stiffness for climbing, and sprinting quite a bit.
You could be a little safer and go with a heavy bike at 11.5 lbs, it would still set you back north of 15k if you could wrestle one of these frames away from one of the lucky few who were able to buy one.







No need to complain about the chain being in the wrong ring and the crank not being level, I am sure the person that owns this bike does not care if we think it is hot or not.
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Originally Posted by JSS
With no lube....

Frame has a weight limit of 165lbs
Woo hoo!!!! I only weight 118lbs!!!! Now I just need $19,900 more.....
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Originally Posted by JSS
You could be a little safer and go with a heavy bike at 11.5 lbs, it would still set you back north of 15k if you could wrestle one of these frames away from one of the lucky few who were able to buy one.







No need to complain about the chain being in the wrong ring and the crank not being level, I am sure the person that owns this bike does not care if we think it is hot or not.
I wonder why the hoods are so high, he really has to bend his wrist up to brake.
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Old 03-03-12, 07:02 PM
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when did this thread become the fantasy impractical bike thread?

The blue giant=not
the white giant=hot
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Originally Posted by craigcraigcraig
when did this thread become the fantasy impractical bike thread?

The blue giant=not
the white giant=hot
white is slightly more impractical than blue due to isp. ten pounders are certainly off the scale impractical.

pun, haha.
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Originally Posted by craigcraigcraig
when did this thread become the fantasy impractical bike thread?
no kidding, if you want to post a picture of a $15,000 bike, post it in one of the many "if you had your pick of any bike no matter the cost or availablity or if you won the lottery or........" type threads. Post YOUR bike and a picture of YOUR bike, not one you found off the internet that looks similar to yours.
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anyone drooling over ax stuff has never ridden ax stuff.
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I do know that AX pulled out of the US. IIRC it was over some lawsuit?
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Originally Posted by craigcraigcraig
when did this thread become the fantasy impractical bike thread?

The blue giant=not
the white giant=hot
I guarantee, if I wouldve put the cosmic carbones on that blue giant, it wouldve been hot.
No Love for the S-Works?
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Originally Posted by I <3 Robots
I do know that AX pulled out of the US. IIRC it was over some lawsuit?
their customer service is a nightmare and their components are extremely fragile...i stripped carbon off a rim just taking off a tubular. no way I'd trust a frame from them...go with crumpton or Scott or bh or.....
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