Hot r Not
08-25-12, 05:58 PM
#9626
King Hoternot
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Oregon City, OR
Posts: 5,255
Bikes: 2015 Cannondale Evo Hi mod
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 127 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
That's fine if you feel that way about my bike. No hurt feelings. As for his bike, its not instantly hot because of his photo. I think k its a hot bike. To me the photo adds to the hotness. Appearantly you are the only one who doesn't think so, which again. Is OK. That's your opinion. Cheers
08-25-12, 07:45 PM
#9627
On Your Left
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
Posts: 8,373
Bikes: Trek Emonda SLR, Sram eTap, Zipp 303
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3004 Post(s)
Liked 2,433 Times
in
1,187 Posts
08-25-12, 09:08 PM
#9628
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 1,076
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Duuuude - I love that Fuji. I've seen WR's other Fuji in person and it is hot for real. Also as a photog I'm impressed with the shot. Calculating exposure on a singe exposure with 3 separate flash pops is not a walk in the park. No one else (sadly myself included) has come within a million ballparks of the effort in this shot except for Rad55 (and he has access to a studio specifically set up for product shots).
08-25-12, 09:28 PM
#9629
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505
Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo
Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,430 Times
in
4,662 Posts
It's not underexposed. If I were to bother bringing it in to photoshop to examine, I bet that I would see peak white levels just under clipping, which is where (typically) you want them. I would also bet that the blacks are close, but not quite, clipped, too. The only way that someone would say that that's underexposed is if they were accustomed to the 18% gray level that the in-camera auto-exposure programs seek (and which is almost never right).
08-25-12, 09:42 PM
#9630
en fuego
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Davenport, IA
Posts: 2,685
Bikes: Trek Madone 3.1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
08-25-12, 09:48 PM
#9631
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 1,076
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
It's not underexposed. If I were to bother bringing it in to photoshop to examine, I bet that I would see peak white levels just under clipping, which is where (typically) you want them. I would also bet that the blacks are close, but not quite, clipped, too. The only way that someone would say that that's underexposed is if they were accustomed to the 18% gray level that the in-camera auto-exposure programs seek (and which is almost never right).
The bike itself is ok but I'm no Fuji fan.
08-25-12, 10:22 PM
#9632
Making a kilometer blurry
Full disclosure on the exposure: I wanted it a bit dark in the dark spots. I wish it looked more like nighttime, but I didn't have time to play around with it much.
Here's the sum total of my processing (all RAW in LR4, no CS6):
Here's the sum total of my processing (all RAW in LR4, no CS6):
Last edited by waterrockets; 08-25-12 at 10:27 PM.
08-25-12, 10:35 PM
#9633
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 938
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Mind explaining like I'm 5 years old?
08-25-12, 10:52 PM
#9634
Making a kilometer blurry
I'll try. RAW is a type of image format. It contains a zero-loss compressed image along with all camera settings during the shot. RAW files have to be "developed" (typically) into TIFF or JPEG files before they are generally usable. The software used to develpe RAW files is akin to what used to be done in a dark room. The RAW is like a negative -- very subtle shade and color differences are captured.
During the developing process, the photographer can make changes to the lighting and coloring of the image without losing any of the integrity of the original. If you have a photo of a bride in her wedding dress, but the dress is nearly blown-out white (over exposed), RAW processing can recover the details in the fabric. Same goes for pushing darks out of the black.
So, Adobe Photoshop Lightroom is a RAW processing program. You have many of the same types of controls that you would see in a pixel-editing program like Photoshop CS6. The difference between RAW processing and pixel editing is the same as the difference between projecting light through film on an enlarger vs. taking a photo of a print, then editing that photo. The copied photo doesn't have the original subtleties.
So, if you brought all the sliders on the right to their default positions, the image would look like the "before" top half. The slider positions shown make it look like the "after" bottom half.
With about 30 seconds of editing in LR4, I could make it look like it was shot in daylight (with some strange reflectors...).
During the developing process, the photographer can make changes to the lighting and coloring of the image without losing any of the integrity of the original. If you have a photo of a bride in her wedding dress, but the dress is nearly blown-out white (over exposed), RAW processing can recover the details in the fabric. Same goes for pushing darks out of the black.
So, Adobe Photoshop Lightroom is a RAW processing program. You have many of the same types of controls that you would see in a pixel-editing program like Photoshop CS6. The difference between RAW processing and pixel editing is the same as the difference between projecting light through film on an enlarger vs. taking a photo of a print, then editing that photo. The copied photo doesn't have the original subtleties.
So, if you brought all the sliders on the right to their default positions, the image would look like the "before" top half. The slider positions shown make it look like the "after" bottom half.
With about 30 seconds of editing in LR4, I could make it look like it was shot in daylight (with some strange reflectors...).
08-25-12, 10:57 PM
#9635
Ghost Ryding 24/7
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Canada/604
Posts: 2,185
Bikes: Giant Defy with Dura Ace group, & Ksyrium SL's,Specialized Allez Shimano mixed/mashed,2011 Opus Sentiero,2008 Kona Jake the Snake,Custom built track/fixed,Stumpy Hartail,Kuwahara/ET bike.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
Bring on the hot bikes!!! No more photo banter...
08-25-12, 11:08 PM
#9636
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Huntington Beach,CA
Posts: 545
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
08-25-12, 11:44 PM
#9637
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Northern CA
Posts: 729
Bikes: Crumpton SL Crumpton Type 5 Berk on order
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Hot
08-25-12, 11:54 PM
#9638
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 752
Bikes: CAAD10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Love the gum walls. Hot - on condition of some fresh black bar tape, removal of seat bag, and ideally some different bottle cages.
08-25-12, 11:56 PM
#9639
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Huntington Beach,CA
Posts: 545
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
08-26-12, 12:04 AM
#9640
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 752
Bikes: CAAD10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
08-26-12, 12:04 AM
#9641
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Elk Grove
Posts: 772
Bikes: 2013 Specialized S Works SL4 Keyline Red
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
08-26-12, 02:01 AM
#9642
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hampton, VA
Posts: 2,364
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
08-26-12, 06:55 AM
#9643
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505
Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo
Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,430 Times
in
4,662 Posts
08-26-12, 08:28 AM
#9644
Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 36
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
morning ride
This was taken at Peace Valley Park near Chalfont, PA this morning. Don't mind my mismatched bottle cages and my quick releases not lined up 
08-26-12, 08:57 AM
#9645
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 752
Bikes: CAAD10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Sigh...
08-26-12, 09:28 AM
#9646
Recusant Iconoclast
Hints for this thread: take the pic on the drive side, chain on the big ring, crank in 9-3 position, take off waterbottles and saddlebag. And yes, we mind the QR alignment. Garage door preferred but not required. As it is, not hot.
08-26-12, 09:39 AM
#9647
Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 36
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
been there done that
08-26-12, 10:09 AM
#9648
Ghost Ryding 24/7
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Canada/604
Posts: 2,185
Bikes: Giant Defy with Dura Ace group, & Ksyrium SL's,Specialized Allez Shimano mixed/mashed,2011 Opus Sentiero,2008 Kona Jake the Snake,Custom built track/fixed,Stumpy Hartail,Kuwahara/ET bike.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
08-26-12, 10:17 AM
#9649
Senior Member
Ridiculous. That shot is as close to a professional shot as I have seen on this forum. The angles, lack of shadowing, coloring are just great. I realize that this is a matter of aesthetics, but on this one it is clear you either have no sense of the artistic or are simply deluded. Nice shot waterrockets.
