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Old 01-22-13, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by justfitme
Caad5 weights arount 1300 g as far as I know.
I do not think there is any frame, that meets all safety standards weights 850 gramms.

It can be 150g lighter, but not a pound... Well, full carbon fork may be 150g lighter than w/aluminum steerer...
I'm not whining but still a little jealous..
I was referring to the frameset as a whole. Frame and fork weighed 1.5kg.
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
I was referring to the frameset as a whole. Frame and fork weighed 1.5kg.
Oh... i would expect CAAD5 with fork would be 1800-1850... yeah..almost a pound.

I think if I would bocome a WW, than CAAD7 would be a better starting point. BTW..what is the wheelset you have?
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Originally Posted by justfitme
How people do it?...

That yellow CAAD weights 17.8... It has ridicoulosly light wheelset (~ 2 kg both with tires, tubes, skewers, cassette and responsibilities on them), 200g seatpost, 110g stem, 230g handlebar.. Romin saddle... the question is 5700 group and CAAD5 frame weights 2.5 lbs more than CAAD10 and Force group??
5700, while nice, is a very tubby group. Sram has two groups that are a full pound lighter and Campagnolo has at least 4 (centaur may be close)

https://www.totalcycling.com/component-weights.html
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Originally Posted by justfitme
Oh... i would expect CAAD5 with fork would be 1800-1850... yeah..almost a pound.

I think if I would bocome a WW, than CAAD7 would be a better starting point. BTW..what is the wheelset you have?
The wheels are A23's laced to Novatec SL's, with Sapim lasers, alloy nips, and veloplugs to finish. 24/28, 2x front and back.
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
5700, while nice, is a very tubby group. Sram has two groups that are a full pound lighter and Campagnolo has at least 4 (centaur may be close)

https://www.totalcycling.com/component-weights.html
Nice link. Than you.
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Originally Posted by justfitme
How people do it?...

That yellow CAAD weights 17.8... It has ridicoulosly light wheelset (~ 2 kg both with tires, tubes, skewers, cassette and responsibilities on them), 200g seatpost, 110g stem, 230g handlebar.. Romin saddle... the question is 5700 group and CAAD5 frame weights 2.5 lbs more than CAAD10 and Force group??
you could make several changes. 200g seatpost isn't "light". you can cut your seatpost if you have the available amount to cut. (Rule of thumb is 3.5inches in the tube). handlebars-200g and under is considered light. as said before 5700 group is a heavy set. new seatpost collar, ultralight tubes (might already have), for sure new group set, lighter 3rd party brake calipers, Is your romin saddle the alum rail or carbon rail? kcnc skewers or something similar to 42g, bottle cages (I got chinese carbon cages 19g each $11 on ebay, been great), light expander plug, ilink or powercord cables (Or something alike). Ti bolt kit for the bikes stem, cages, FD, RD....etc., veloplugs instead of rimtape.

a lot of cutting the weight is simply replacing stuff that works well with stuff that works well, just lighter. totally not needed, unless you find it to be a goal of yours. I have said it many times, shaving weight off your bike is a hobby in itself completely aside from cycling.

When you look at numbers its not difficult to do, it just takes money, small steps and have a little bit of a mental disorder

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Originally Posted by bianchi10
you could make several changes. 200g seatpost isn't "light". 200g and under is considered light. as said before 5700 group is a heavy set. you can cut your seatpost if you have the available amount to cut. (Rule of thumb is 3.5inches in the tube). Sub 200g handlebars, new seatpost collar, ultralight tubes (might already have), for sure new group set, lighter 3rd party brake calipers, Is your romin saddle the alum rail or carbon rail? kcnc skewers or something similar to 42g, bottle cages (I got chinese carbon cages 19g each $11 on ebay, been great), light expander plug, ilink or powercord cables (Or something alike). Ti bolt kit for the bikes stem, cages, FD, RD....etc.

When you look at numbers its not difficult to do, it just takes money, small steps and have a little bit of a mental disorder
I told myself I'm tuning to 15lbs and that's it.

...we'll see.
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Originally Posted by bianchi10
you could make several changes. 200g seatpost isn't "light". 200g and under is considered light. as said before 5700 group is a heavy set. you can cut your seatpost if you have the available amount to cut. (Rule of thumb is 3.5inches in the tube). Sub 200g handlebars, new seatpost collar, ultralight tubes (might already have), for sure new group set, lighter 3rd party brake calipers, Is your romin saddle the alum rail or carbon rail? kcnc skewers or something similar to 42g, bottle cages (I got chinese carbon cages 19g each $11 on ebay, been great), light expander plug, ilink or powercord cables (Or something alike). Ti bolt kit for the bikes stem, cages, FD, RD....etc.

When you look at numbers its not difficult to do, it just takes money, small steps and have a little bit of a mental disorder
Yes. I will mess with my blue CAAD. According to my wife I already have one thing...
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
I told myself I'm tuning to 15lbs and that's it.

...we'll see.
I said the same thing. Now I'm looking for SUB 15lbs. I wont quit now till I see 14.XX, I dont care if it only says 14.9999999, I will get there.
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Old 01-22-13, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bianchi10
I said the same thing. Now I'm looking for SUB 15lbs. I wont quit now till I see 14.XX, I dont care if it only says 14.9999999, I will get there.
Hah, what are you at as of now?
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Old 01-22-13, 08:52 PM
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cleve's bike kicks ass. An Evo with Campy FTW!
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Originally Posted by bianchi10
I said the same thing. Now I'm looking for SUB 15lbs. I wont quit now till I see 14.XX, I dont care if it only says 14.9999999, I will get there.
I got the S2 down to 12.98, but it currently sits at 13.07lbs. It's a pig heavy aero bike though you know....
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
Hah, what are you at as of now?
Don't know. Haven't weighed in since I got my new brakes, new ultra light tubes, lighter tires, veloplugs or expander plug and top cap. Was 15.69 before that.

I need new frameset to really drop into the low 14 or below
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After a wheel upgrade...



H O T , like the hoods...
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Originally Posted by bianchi10
I said the same thing. Now I'm looking for SUB 15lbs. I wont quit now till I see 14.XX, I dont care if it only says 14.9999999, I will get there.
You can get there with some light tubular wheelset and tires.

My CAAD10 in 58 is sitting high 15s right now with "heavy" wheels by WW standards. They are 1650g +600g Fusion 3 tubeless tires + sealant/valves + Ultegra cassette. I can get it close to mid 14 with a light tubular wheelset and red cassette. Also still have a 240g aluminum seatpost that can drop a chunk of weight.
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I don't want to go tubular though
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i don't want to go tubular though
lol.............
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Originally Posted by justfitme
May I try?

Do you actually have 2 R2000s that you're actively modifying to look cool for this thread? I prefer the yellow one because my first road bike was a CAAD3 in the same color, but why would you want 2 bikes that are so similar? Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I'd be glad to take one off your hands for you.
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Yes, I have 2 R2000si since last Friday. I hope some people were impressed by this fact. I would not call "modification" wheels and handlebar tapes swap.
If I will get 5 more R2000si I still would not look as cool as the guy with 13lbs bike with Reynolds wheels.

Eventually I will make one of them 15 lbs race machine and the other flat-bar hybrid to pull kids trailer...or fixie.
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Cleave - Super HOT bike. Only the S-Works stem bothers me slightly, although it does add a little quirky charm.

bianchi10 - If you want to go light, you gotta go tubular. There's really not much to be afraid of. Vittorias mount super easy - I went with them for my first tubular tire install and I couldn't believe what all the fuss is about!
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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
I got the S2 down to 12.98, but it currently sits at 13.07lbs. It's a pig heavy aero bike though you know....
Dafuq. 13.07 is considered pig heavy?
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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
I got the S2 down to 12.98, but it currently sits at 13.07lbs. It's a pig heavy aero bike though you know....
I'm still amazed at the weight of your S2. Mine is stuck at 15lb limbo. If I pull the plastic Elite cages I'd be in the high 14's...but that's cheating.
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Hi,

Thanks for the votes of hotness. I know how hotness is in the eye of the beholder and YMMV and... I just wish it was red.

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didn't uci drop the weight limit this year, if not I didn't find weight limits listed in the 2012 rulebook...might have missed it though
I hadn't heard anything about UCI rules changes regarding weight. At Masters Natz last year the officials were measuring dimensions of TT bikes with the official jig and then weighing them at the staging area just before you started. (They had a "courtesy" bike check the day before at registration.) I found the weighing part humorous for TT bikes because it was pretty clear that no one had a sub 15 lb TT bike. On the other hand, they did not check road bikes. One official said to me, "If you have an underweight bike, you better not get dropped on the climb."

I got dropped on the climb riding my 14.5 lb SuperSix Hi-Mod.

What is funny to me is that I am not inherently a weight weenie. In fact, the Specialized stem is one of the heavier stems that I could have used on this bike. Record-10 stuff is light but not the lightest and the Look Ko Max 2 Carbon pedals are heavier than the Ko Carbon pedals that I used last year. Admittedly, the Zipp carbon cages are weight weenie pieces, but they hold the bottles as securely as any cage that I've owned.
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Originally Posted by Muffin Man
Dafuq. 13.07 is considered pig heavy?
What I meant was, if it was a Evo, or a R5ca or something like that, it would be over a pound lighter.

Originally Posted by I <3 Robots
I'm still amazed at the weight of your S2. Mine is stuck at 15lb limbo. If I pull the plastic Elite cages I'd be in the high 14's...but that's cheating.
Yeah, I had to employ some pretty light parts to get there. My post/saddle combo dropped 1/4lb off my SLR, with the tuned Cervelo post, Lightning cranks are light, KCNC brakes, 404 tubies, it all chips away at the total. Then I got silly with things like my Red RD. I still think I could get another few grams out of it, and I haven't touched the Yaw FD yet. It was part of the gain up to 13.07....
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You got me on the cranks and post/saddle combo and tuning.

I have 404 tubulars, Gravitas brakes, Rotor 3D/Aero Q-Rings. My SC CSL bars are on the heavier side. I'm also running the heavier Vittoria Corsa CR on the front wheel and the CX II on the rear.

I'm trying to decide whether to go with the new Ciamillo crank. Even at my cost...its still a decent chunk of change.

Here is how it stands now. Maybe just one part away. Like a Red cassette...


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