PatrickGSR94

02-09 4Runner had a 4.7L V8 available, in the US anyway.

milkbaby

FUGLY... /thumbsdown

ancker

That Colnago has potential. But as it sits "Not".
Stem, cranks, valves, big ring, headset, etc.

The immediate Hot from a few just because it says "Colnago" is amusing. Almost as funny as the immediate Nots for Trek.

kcollier5

... Colnago! Hot! - Wait, what IS that???! That's some sort of weird graphics... Wait, never mind. NOT hot. I think the LdV is either love it or hate it but what I can't figure out is why a company of their stature would stoop to this and the "Jet" bike and other sort of cheesy renditions? What does a Jet have to do with a bicycle? I see a little bit of LdV's 'vision' of a bicycle some 400 years before it was invented but a Jet? Maybe they didn't have enough business in that era? Just idling thoughts sorry to Gridplan, but it's a not for me...

I will say that a better, lower angled photo with some of the 'rules' might help...

gc3

Personally and just out of respect for the frame, I'd love to give this Colnago a "hot" but it would be qualified at best. This paint scheme doesn't appeal very much (to me) and I find the bulky EPS battery distracting, not to mention what's already been noted about the photo in general, stem, etc...and what are those, colored valve stem caps?

ethan.g75

two dilemmas:
1) Should I put the downtube decals on? (they are white lettered TREK decals)
2) Should I put on white bar tape and/or housing?

valygrl

^^ zero-offset seatpost + black saddle = hot

gridplan

Quite alright. It would be a boring place if we all liked the same things. :^) I don't personally find the graphics to be cheesy, but to each his own. FWIW, I don't like the Jet-themed Colnago either. It's not just that its theme is unrelated to bicycles. I don't see what it has to do with Italy. Commemorating a paisano like Da Vinci, I get; jets, not so much.

Well, if you dislike this one, you'll probably hate one of my all-time faves (apologies if I've posted this before). It's my 2005 Colnago BrerArt, which I upgraded a year or two ago with an 11-speed Campy Super Record gruppo. It's even more of a love it or hate it kind of bike than the Da Vinci.

gc3

^^ This Colnago BrerArt is hot in my opinion and staged nicely, not that I'd necessarily want to ride it for not desiring attention. But then I can appreciate PEGORETTI frames too.

SpeshulEd 

No.
No.

Agreed.

A few not aspects (valve caps, what?), but overall, hot.

ethan.g75

really with the saddle? I kinda like the hints of white, we will see, mostly because i just bought that saddle a few months ago when my bike was white !!! with the seatpost, ik and i am actually getting a fitting tomorrow where we will pick out a new seat post

matthewk459

Hottest ever.

bianchi10

Don't get what people see in those colnago's. Just not my taste.

Where are the standards here? Staging? Stack of spaces? Chain on wrong gears? High angle stems??? Though, I do understand that sometimes a bike is just appealing to people regardless of the set up.

I know not everyone agrees with me, which is fine, but at least I'm consistent.

SpeshulEd 

I like the paintjob, it's like it exploded confetti! Makes me want to eat cake.

WhyFi

Not my cup of tea, but I can see how it would appeal to some.

There's a difference between "standards" and "rules of thumb."

bianchi10

True

bianchi10

No decals
No white bartape.

IMO, I would go black saddle, zero offset seatpost, black crankset, rotate bars down (not because it stops it from being hot, but because I dont like how bars look when they are pointed at the cassette. PLUS, the position of those bars appear to not even be useful in a sprint in the drops. Your forearms would hit the top) and have matching tires.

Doug28450

I have a Giant, it's not.

RJM

To me, that frame looks too small.

thirdgenbird

Probably not

there are no spacers under the stem. Head tube length is the limiting factor here. He can probably find a frame with geomatry that better suits his need, but this looks to be the biggest oclv he can ride to accommodate his bar drop. Neither the seatpost or stem look outrageous for a "race bike" anyway.

kcollier5

Amen to that! Actually, although it's a bit more busy, I probably like this one better than the LdV. IMO, the Jet is the worst idea/looking bike that Colnago has EVER produced. And they have produced some beauties, for sure. I agree with you that the LdV is much better (and makes much more sense) than the Jet, with the bike/LdV ties and the LdV/Italy ties, but it still seems to be trying a little too hard, imo. They are Colnago! for crying out loud! They don't need all the other stuff. Just the fact that they are building one of the finest bikes in the world should be enough, I would think.

But like you say, it takes all kinds. And as long as they keep producing stellar bikes, I'm ok with it...

primov8

A better pic would do this bike some justice.

HOT. I doubt I'll ever see one one the road but always great to have something that stands out from the rest. This definitely falls in that category.

cycledogg

I, for one, agree!

I <3 Robots

See...here's the thing. These are all personal bikes. If one has to follow some your "standards" a lot of these bikes would be un-rideable to the owner. They are set up to be ridden...not picture posers. The way bikes are set up...are personal preferences. Bar rotation is a personal preference. If they feel comfortable rotated up...then so be it. Same with spacers and the upturned stem.

Nobody is going to drop thousands on a bike...set up the bike to that its a torture device for the sake of this thread.

I do understand this is purely a visual thread...but sometimes the suggestions can get ridiculous.

bianchi10

I understand your point. I give my judgement based on what I like. What I like happens to fit most of the "rules of thumb". I prefer to see bars positioned in a particular way that I feel not only look best but are beneficial. I have in past given judgement on the "rules of thumb", but anymore try to make it very clear why I PERSONALLY like or dislike a bike. They are my opinions, which is not meant to sound like the final verdict but I think it comes across that way at times. At the end of the day, my judgement should be fairly predictable to everyone since what I find to be hot, usually lines up with most of the "rules". I completely understand that people aren't going to set their bike up a certain way just for this thread and then readjust yob their liking in order to make it ridable. To me, that is the point of this thread, post a picture of your bike and its current set up. If its hot than it is hot. On the other hand if you have a $15,000 bike and have your stem at the top of the stack, mismatched tires, ugly cages, bars rotated up, saddle height lower than bars etc....they can't expect to post a picture and expect to get a hot vote out of me (and most likely a majority of everyone here) just because it is a nice bike. If you have a bike like that and and need it set that way, then don't post it in a thread that is meant to be highly judgemental with how a bike appears.