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Old 04-23-14, 11:01 AM
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Look level to me.
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Old 04-23-14, 11:16 AM
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You folks may do it differently, but I set the handlebar on a flat surface, mount the levers so that the end of the brake lever touches the same surface, on both sides, then mount the assembly. Once mounted, I rotate the entire assembly so that the drops are comfortable, and typically the hoods line right up comfortably, worst case within 1/4" of final position. This also usually leaves the end of the handlebars pointing slightly above the rear brake. This has worked for Ergos, STI's, and TRP RRL brake levers, on a variety of compact and standard bars (Ritchey, Deda, and FSA). Doesn't seem like rocket surgery.
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Old 04-23-14, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bianchi10 View Post


did from phone so not exactly a straight line, but that's how I see the hoods, which is not level.
Your line looks more like it's indicating the "ramps" than the hoods.
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Old 04-23-14, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RollCNY View Post
Doesn't seem like rocket surgery.
More like brain science.
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Old 04-23-14, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
Your line looks more like it's indicating the "ramps" than the hoods.
I'm honestly not even sure what he's trying to indicate with the line.
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Old 04-23-14, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
I'm honestly not even sure what he's trying to indicate with the line.
Much like on graphs, red lines without corresponding green and blue lines are meaningless.
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Old 04-23-14, 11:34 AM
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That is a hell of a line for one that was drawn on a phone, though. Kudos!
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Old 04-23-14, 11:34 AM
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Almost every dura-ace 9000 group, including shimano's own display bike shows the ramps level:



I also agree with that they look more aesthetically pleasing that way
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Old 04-23-14, 11:36 AM
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I'm gonna assume if the stem is 8 or 9 degrees below horizontal that the ramps are pretty near horizontal in real life. Maybe sloping down a degree.

I think the pic has significant barrel distortion.
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Old 04-23-14, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
Almost every dura-ace 9000 group, including shimano's own display bike shows the ramps level:



I also agree with that they look more aesthetically pleasing that way
Just because it's a display bike doesn't necessarily mean it's correct.
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Old 04-23-14, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by redlude9702
Almost every dura-ace 9000 group, including shimano's own display bike shows the ramps level:



I also agree with that they look more aesthetically pleasing that way
Those are level! diamondback is not.
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Old 04-23-14, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
That is a hell of a line for one that was drawn on a phone, though. Kudos!
Ha! Thank you
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Old 04-23-14, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
Just because it's a display bike doesn't necessarily mean it's correct.
My point was that people were disputing Shimano's instructions on what they mean by level. That is pretty hilarious though.
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Old 04-23-14, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
My point was that people were disputing Shimano's instructions on what they mean by level. That is pretty hilarious though.
Where would those instructions be?

edit: I don't see leveling being mentioned in the manuals, but their illustrations certainly aren't following the proposed HoN aesthetic -


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Old 04-23-14, 12:01 PM
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I don't know where that came from, this was what was stated though
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Hoods look correct to me. Shimano recommends the hoods be level. If he moved it up, then it wouldn't level and if moved it down, again wouldn't be level. If he wants to move it up, he probably should consider switching out the ergo for compact then.
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Old 04-23-14, 12:08 PM
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I think we are looking at wide angle barrel distortion in that photo.
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Old 04-23-14, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Where would those instructions be?

edit: I don't see leveling being mentioned in the manuals, but their illustrations certainly aren't following the proposed HoN aesthetic -

I just went through the 6870 manual as well...absolutely no mention of a recommended level for the shifters. As usual, it comes down to fit and user preference. Or in this thread, aesthetics.
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Old 04-23-14, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
I'm honestly not even sure what he's trying to indicate with the line.
If you shift that line to the top of the 'ramps' then it lines up with the hoods and certainly looks far from level. Some bars don't allow the whole thing to be contiguously level, however those particular bars do, and imo, it would look better if they were level. But I also ride best with my tops level so for me it's both practical and aesthetic!

Nice bike, but not sure it ranks a hot to me. Just not very exciting overall. But nice nonetheless.
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Old 04-23-14, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bianchi10 View Post


did from phone so not exactly a straight line, but that's how I see the hoods, which is not level.
If you were to draw circles concentric with the axles I think you'd find the wheels are oval in that pic. How the hell does he ride around on oval wheels?
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
If you were to draw circles concentric with the axles I think you'd find the wheels are oval in that pic. How the hell does he ride around on oval wheels?
By, god! You're right!

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Old 04-23-14, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
If you were to draw circles concentric with the axles I think you'd find the wheels are oval in that pic. How the hell does he ride around on oval wheels?

As a Fuji Owner?
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Old 04-23-14, 01:52 PM
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Newly built for commuting

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Old 04-23-14, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
If you were to draw circles concentric with the axles I think you'd find the wheels are oval in that pic. How the hell does he ride around on oval wheels?
LOL, I was told oval wheels are more aero, so I went ahead and bent them. Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Regarding the lever positions, they probably are a little low, but that's where they're comfortable, so they're staying put. I may play with the bar tape colors to see how red looks.

Glad to hear there are other diamondback fans and racers out there - I went to school up in Missoula, MT and the local bike shop there at the time sold diamondback. My first real bike was a diamondback mountain bike, and I've been a fan ever since. It seems like a lot of people dismiss them as 'walmart bikes', given their presence in the low end market, but from the build quality, specs, and road feel of this frame, I'd say they're capable of making a high-end frame that's on par with the sexier brands. You can occasionally find the frames cheap on ebay, as a lot of people bought them on sale solely for the campag super record parts and easton carbon wheels that came with them.
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Old 04-23-14, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by greenteei89 View Post
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You should debadge your mismatched wheels so it is less obvious.
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