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Old 01-13-16, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dudemanppl


6.1kg as pictured.
Would be hot with black tires.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
What about it makes it look like it wants to be a fixie? Just curious.
Much of what @chaadster said. The straightforward purposefulness in general, and something about the proportions in the first photo, too - compare the angle between the chain and the chainstay with that on the Colnago, which is in a similar gear. Also from that angle those look like track bars. Combine all that with the color, finish, that industrial nameplate (and that name) make it look very Brooklyn.
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Old 01-13-16, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kbarch
Much of what @chaadster said. The straightforward purposefulness in general, and something about the proportions in the first photo, too - compare the angle between the chain and the chainstay with that on the Colnago, which is in a similar gear. Also from that angle those look like track bars. Combine all that with the color, finish, that industrial nameplate (and that name) make it look very Brooklyn.
Thanks. I appreciate the reply.
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Old 01-13-16, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dudemanppl


6.1kg as pictured.
Nice bike, but it looks too small for the owner. I wonder how much time is spent in the drops.

Pretty warm, but not hot.
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Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2
Would be hot with black tires.
Gumwall/yellow sidewall tires were never my thing either. Never cared for it. Black tires were the only thing I found acceptable. Then all of a sudden, one day it just became appealing to me on the right bike. For me, a simple frame with gumwall looks really good. A busy frame with logos or colors, black tires look best. I totally get where you are coming from though.
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That Colnago is just right.

I like the idea and the execution of the Soulcraft, but I don't find it hot. I think it's mostly the extended head tube - it makes perfect sense, but I can't come to terms with how it looks.


I wonder what the impressions will be for this. It's the initial build, most parts just transferred from the old frame and it will evolve from here.

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Originally Posted by Fiery
That Colnago is just right.

I like the idea and the execution of the Soulcraft, but I don't find it hot. I think it's mostly the extended head tube - it makes perfect sense, but I can't come to terms with how it looks.


I wonder what the impressions will be for this. It's the initial build, most parts just transferred from the old frame and it will evolve from here.
Thanks! The head tube is the one thing I dislike about the bike - but with the steerer angle (which is more important, functionally) a shorter head tube would mean a shorter stem.

I really like the dims of the frame. The wield between the down tube and the head tube is, well, puffy, but I haven't seen an aluminum (it's aluminum, no?) wield that was smooth without finishing. The build says "workhorse" - solid wheels, no frills seatpost, solid frame. It doesn't scream "Dad", which to me, is very hot. But, something was niggling me about the dimensions of the overall rig and I think I figured it out:

That little difference in angle between the top tube and the stem. Take it for what its worth - this is a completely subjective and irrelevant opinion - but it just drives my OCD insane. The difference is such that a stem inline with the top tub (at least) shouldn't dramatically affect your comfort, and I feel like it would look 10x better right after tightening the last screw. If you're looking to swap parts, I would start here.
Overall, a really nice rig that doesn't look hesitant to take a beating or two.

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Originally Posted by Fiery
I wonder what the impressions will be for this. It's the initial build, most parts just transferred from the old frame and it will evolve from here.

I'm not a fan of silver hoops on modern bikes with black components, but the silver chainrings help. I like the colorway and font used. (edit) on second look, the black crank + brake levers look out of place.

BTW, the levers look a tad high on the bars. Not way off, but I would lower them(and rotate the bars up) a little, next time the tape gets replaced.

It would be hotter if you hadn't cropped the cat out of the photo.

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Originally Posted by Fiery

I wonder what the impressions will be for this. It's the initial build, most parts just transferred from the old frame and it will evolve from here.

Monstrous.
I don't mind the pastiche, and in concept, it could be hot. I'd dig it if the chain rings were shiny silver (or drilled out!) and the branding wasn't oversized.
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Old 01-13-16, 06:45 PM
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I'll try this again. Still trying to figure out how to remove some of the decals (seems more like paint over the clear coat). Kind of scared to use a heat gun on the CF.

Came out to be 7.35 Kg as it sits there. I wasn't even going for a "light" build either.

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Old 01-13-16, 06:58 PM
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Sweet ride. I'd prefer silver bar tape, but that's just me.
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I like the orange tape, has nice contrast to the neutral color tones
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Old 01-14-16, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Lamp-Shade
Thanks! The head tube is the one thing I dislike about the bike - but with the steerer angle (which is more important, functionally) a shorter head tube would mean a shorter stem.

I really like the dims of the frame. The wield between the down tube and the head tube is, well, puffy, but I haven't seen an aluminum (it's aluminum, no?) wield that was smooth without finishing. The build says "workhorse" - solid wheels, no frills seatpost, solid frame. It doesn't scream "Dad", which to me, is very hot. But, something was niggling me about the dimensions of the overall rig and I think I figured it out:
https://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ps7abeh2pe.jpg
That little difference in angle between the top tube and the stem. Take it for what its worth - this is a completely subjective and irrelevant opinion - but it just drives my OCD insane. The difference is such that a stem inline with the top tub (at least) shouldn't dramatically affect your comfort, and I feel like it would look 10x better right after tightening the last screw. If you're looking to swap parts, I would start here.
Overall, a really nice rig that doesn't look hesitant to take a beating or two.
I'm not sure I understand the part about the shorter head tube meaning a shorter stem.

Thanks for the compliments, you've got the intention behind my build exactly right - no frills functionality as the top priority, but trying to make it look as good as I can. I intend to change or upgrade parts of it only under the following conditions:
1. The old part is worn out/broken.
2. The new part is a significant improvement at a reasonable price.
3. The new part is cheap/free and is a slight improvement or simply looks better.

Regarding the stem vs top tube angle, I can see it, but I've grown to accept the look as a rule rather than exception on modern bikes. It used to bug me on the bike I had before, where it was more obvious, but over time I just got used to it. In any case, a new stem with a different angle would not satisfy any of the three conditions above

Originally Posted by noodle soup
I'm not a fan of silver hoops on modern bikes with black components, but the silver chainrings help. I like the colorway and font used. (edit) on second look, the black crank + brake levers look out of place.

BTW, the levers look a tad high on the bars. Not way off, but I would lower them(and rotate the bars up) a little, next time the tape gets replaced.

It would be hotter if you hadn't cropped the cat out of the photo.
I agree about the wheels. At some point they will be replaced with a set that has wider rims, is at least a little lighter, and is black. Not sure yet what will they be, but those are the requirements.

The bar and levers are set up so all hand positions are usable and comfortable. If anything, the levers could go a bit higher, but then they might be just a little too high to reach comfortably from the drops. I think the angle makes sense visually as well, since the top tube is sloped, the stem is sloped, even the nose of the saddle is pointing up due to the hammock shape. Not trying to change your opinion, of course, but I would like to know why you think they should be lower.

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Monstrous.
I don't mind the pastiche, and in concept, it could be hot. I'd dig it if the chain rings were shiny silver (or drilled out!) and the branding wasn't oversized.
I'm not sure how to interpret "monstrous"

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Old 01-14-16, 07:23 AM
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Yippee... a whole page of black bikes...baahaa..baahaa..baahaa
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Yippee... a whole page of black bikes...baahaa..baahaa..baahaa
Its only 5 bikes.
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Originally Posted by Fiery
That Colnago is just right.

I like the idea and the execution of the Soulcraft, but I don't find it hot. I think it's mostly the extended head tube - it makes perfect sense, but I can't come to terms with how it looks.


I wonder what the impressions will be for this. It's the initial build, most parts just transferred from the old frame and it will evolve from here.


I like this bike a lot. How tall are you? Looks like it'd fit me, if you ever happen to want to ship it to Virginia and never see it again.
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Love the Palace.
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What's protruding through the bar tape?



And what kind of tape is that? Looks like Fizik Superlight?

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Originally Posted by TimothyH
What's protruding through the bar tape?



And what kind of tape is that? Looks like Fizik Superlight?
I'd imagine it's the Di2 sprint shifter buttons, they let you shift from the drops without touching the levers.
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
I'd imagine it's the Di2 sprint shifter buttons, they let you shift from the drops without touching the levers.
It could be for the air horns.
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Originally Posted by Doge
More of this bike, please!
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
I'd imagine it's the Di2 sprint shifter buttons, they let you shift from the drops without touching the levers.
I googled it based on your answer and it is so. I'm really surprised that there isn't a more elegant solution, something other than ripping a hole in the tape.
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Originally Posted by Fiery
I'm not sure how to interpret "monstrous"
i meant it in the nicest way, of course.
It looks like a formal combination of two different kinds of bikes, but not like a functional hybrid bike; an abnormal creature. If it were alive, it might be frightening, but since it's not, we can enjoy scrutinizing it in safety and comfort
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