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05-31-17, 03:52 AM
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I was expecting a lot of abuse so to get so many constructive comments instead is awesome. Thanks!
I can't believe I didn't notice and makes so much sense now! I had a look at some pics with it the other way and it looks a lot nicer. This is a big problem though as I'm in the UK and left rear brake is the norm. Apparently because we use our right arm to indicate more, so the left hand needs to be on the rear brake. Thinking about it, I do use my right arm to signal far more often than my left. I could swap around, but it would take a while to get used to, but would cause massive confusion if I use another bike (wife's, hire bike, borrowed bike, etc) so I'm not sure its good to go against the norm. Perhaps I can shorten the left cable a little to straighten it out a bit? It looks unnecessarily long? Now that I know what the problem is, its bugging me even more!
The seatpost is stock, and the decals don't seem to be easily removable. I think I may get a new post instead. For saddle, I'm looking at the Fizik Arione R1 which has carbon braided rails. I read somewhere that some seatposts have a 'pinching' clamp mechanism which might not be good for carbon rails. Is that the case? Any suggestions on good (looking) and light seatposts?
I did consider orange bar tape but I thought it might be a bit too bling? Likewise with white bartape. I still have my old white saddle and some spare white tape lying around though so I might play around and see what its like.
Yep, will see if I can pick up a set of reasonably priced DA pedals. Should save some weight as well as the white ones are quite chunky.
My first bike with Di2. Do the chains never fall off? I quite like a tint of red around there.
Yep, I was thinking of getting it cut when I take it back to the shop for the first complimentary service. Do I need to leave a spacer on top or get it cut more or less flush with the stem? Which spacer should I leave on top?
Wow I can't believe you noticed this? This is how the shop fitted it. I did think the feel was slightly weird but I didn't notice until you mentioned it! I'll see if I can move it down a bit without wrecking the bar tape.
Haha thanks. I did find out some of the rules but after the photos. I'll try risking a round two after various changes suggested and reseek approval!
Thanks lot for the comments so far. You guys are hard to please!
I did consider orange bar tape but I thought it might be a bit too bling? Likewise with white bartape. I still have my old white saddle and some spare white tape lying around though so I might play around and see what its like.
My first bike with Di2. Do the chains never fall off? I quite like a tint of red around there.
second, I'd cut that steering tube above your stem 10mm or so. Again, this for aesthetic purposes. If you plan on keeping the bike for a long time, then cut that sucker down. If you plan on selling it in a year or so, keep it the way it is because it can make it more difficult for a buyer if the steerer is too short for their needs.
Wow I can't believe you noticed this? This is how the shop fitted it. I did think the feel was slightly weird but I didn't notice until you mentioned it! I'll see if I can move it down a bit without wrecking the bar tape.
Haha thanks. I did find out some of the rules but after the photos. I'll try risking a round two after various changes suggested and reseek approval!
Thanks lot for the comments so far. You guys are hard to please!
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05-31-17, 05:01 AM
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For round two, please resize the pictures before uploading. Even though they are displayed smaller by the forum software, in the background they are still huge files that the browser needs to download and handle.
05-31-17, 06:56 AM
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The seatpost is stock, and the decals don't seem to be easily removable. I think I may get a new post instead. For saddle, I'm looking at the Fizik Arione R1 which has carbon braided rails. I read somewhere that some seatposts have a 'pinching' clamp mechanism which might not be good for carbon rails. Is that the case? Any suggestions on good (looking) and light seatposts?
Having bright color at the edges (i.e. axles, seat, handlebar, pedals) would guide (subconsciously) spectator to flow their viewing of the bike from one edge to the next.
If all the parts are black and muted, the flow of view is much slower, no direction for spectator to follow.
Solid color frames with bright color decals to attract spectator's attention.
Similarly the titanium frame with nude satin or matt finish with bright color decals on the downtube.
Matching the color of bar tape, saddle with color of frame decals or other bright color spots on the frame would connect the whole bike's aesthetic.
IMO, seat post decals makes it too busy.. leave it nude carbon or just solid black. Seatposts are one of those items that you put on the bike, adjust and forget, you don't want to be constantly moving it, no need for extra attention to it unless you really get close to admire the carbon weave finish.
Carbon railed saddles are just overkill, no one will see it unless upclose and rider would never tell the difference while riding. You want the seat to be comfortable for riding. Three contact points of your body and bike are to keep comfort as priority: bar tape, pedals and saddle.
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05-31-17, 07:49 AM
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The seatpost is stock, and the decals don't seem to be easily removable. I think I may get a new post instead. For saddle, I'm looking at the Fizik Arione R1 which has carbon braided rails. I read somewhere that some seatposts have a 'pinching' clamp mechanism which might not be good for carbon rails. Is that the case? Any suggestions on good (looking) and light seatposts?
In response to another post about the uselessness of carbon rails, I don't care if anyone can see them or if I can feel any difference. The Arione R1 is considerably lighter than the other Arione options (and I like the Arione shape) and in my budget so I bought it.
05-31-17, 08:51 AM
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Thanks for the thorough reply fiery! Sizing wise my saddle is in the ballpark of yours ~1.5 cm lower so that is helpful in visualizing how my fit setup might look. I recently had a fitting and my guy adjusted me to a more aggressive position with a lower, longer front end so that should work out great with this geometry.
First impressions on reading your ride description, was "hmm, hope I don't break my face on this thing" haha, but I think I will be ok.
Sounds like it will be punchy and fun to ride and a snappy contrast to my other bike, which has a more laid back attitude. Yeah I read your earlier write up when I was combing the forums looking for intel on these frames before buying.
For my build, going pretty basic and budget oriented, as is my norm: Ultegra 6800, Fulcrum Quattro LG, Deda/Zipp/Selle Italia cockpit, and Stages PM. Carbon wheels would look great on here, maybe down the road-bit of a retrogrouch
) the Quattro LGs aesthetically won't look out of place, and I really like how they ride. Going for the Black/Jade. Cant wait!
First impressions on reading your ride description, was "hmm, hope I don't break my face on this thing" haha, but I think I will be ok.
Sounds like it will be punchy and fun to ride and a snappy contrast to my other bike, which has a more laid back attitude. Yeah I read your earlier write up when I was combing the forums looking for intel on these frames before buying.For my build, going pretty basic and budget oriented, as is my norm: Ultegra 6800, Fulcrum Quattro LG, Deda/Zipp/Selle Italia cockpit, and Stages PM. Carbon wheels would look great on here, maybe down the road-bit of a retrogrouch
) the Quattro LGs aesthetically won't look out of place, and I really like how they ride. Going for the Black/Jade. Cant wait!It's the original Palace - the new one is Palace:R. It's a 56, with the saddle height of 78 cm from center of BB to top of saddle along the seat tube.
I posted a first-impressions sort of review here. I've ridden it a lot since then, but the impressions have't changed much. It's a sharp handling bike that responds best to steering from the hips. Once I got used to how it responds, I no longer have any problems riding it no handed. It's eager to corner, but it holds the line well both going straight and in corners. I does tend to oversteer a little in long, sweeping curves if you're not going fast enough. While it does feel planted on uneven and broken pavement, it is not really confidence inspiring on slippery and loose surfaces, such as pavé or gravel; I find it feels like it's about to wipe out if I the handlebar turns even a little bit, so I want to tense up. However, once I relax and let it work under me without trying to hold it in line by force, it actually becomes more stable and it goes through just fine. Even though it doesn't inspire confidence in those conditions, it does handle them well.
All in all, it's a racy, aggressive feeling bike. It's fine for more leisurely pace rides, but at its core it is the sort of bike that feels better the lower the handlebars are and the further over it is leaned.
Which colourway are you getting? What will you build it up with?
I posted a first-impressions sort of review here. I've ridden it a lot since then, but the impressions have't changed much. It's a sharp handling bike that responds best to steering from the hips. Once I got used to how it responds, I no longer have any problems riding it no handed. It's eager to corner, but it holds the line well both going straight and in corners. I does tend to oversteer a little in long, sweeping curves if you're not going fast enough. While it does feel planted on uneven and broken pavement, it is not really confidence inspiring on slippery and loose surfaces, such as pavé or gravel; I find it feels like it's about to wipe out if I the handlebar turns even a little bit, so I want to tense up. However, once I relax and let it work under me without trying to hold it in line by force, it actually becomes more stable and it goes through just fine. Even though it doesn't inspire confidence in those conditions, it does handle them well.
All in all, it's a racy, aggressive feeling bike. It's fine for more leisurely pace rides, but at its core it is the sort of bike that feels better the lower the handlebars are and the further over it is leaned.
Which colourway are you getting? What will you build it up with?
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05-31-17, 09:48 AM
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05-31-17, 09:52 AM
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Yep, I was thinking of getting it cut when I take it back to the shop for the first complimentary service. Do I need to leave a spacer on top or get it cut more or less flush with the stem? Which spacer should I leave on top?
Wow I can't believe you noticed this? This is how the shop fitted it. I did think the feel was slightly weird but I didn't notice until you mentioned it! I'll see if I can move it down a bit without wrecking the bar tape.
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I'll be gentle here and since you are new, I'll remind you that this thread is strictly based on aesthetics and not all for purpose. So when someone says, your stem is too short, it doesn't mean its too short for your body, but rather that it would look better if it were longer. Most of us put a lot of thought into upgrading parts on our bikes, so its easy to get a bit butt hurt wen someone dislikes your set up. Try to take any "Not's" with a grain of salt. If you are looking for ideas on how to make it look better, be sure you are not compromising your fit to accommodate the look. We all know that at the end of the day, being able to ride your bike "X" amount of miles in comfort is much more important than getting a hot on this stupid forum.
OTHER (Broken rules):
-Line the logo of the tires up with your stem valve. The valve stem should be in the center of the logo's.
-When taking a photo of your bike, make sure the chain is always on the large front chainring and small in the back. Never...ever...EVER take a photo with the chain crossed. this means, no large to large or small to small. We will hurt you and call you bad names.
-Solid backgrounds that contrast from your bikes colors are generally best to show off all the details of the bike. If you had a solid white bike, a white garage door might not in your best interest. Same for a black bike against a black wall. But generally speaking, a garage door or light colored wall works best.
OTHER (Broken rules):
-Line the logo of the tires up with your stem valve. The valve stem should be in the center of the logo's.
-When taking a photo of your bike, make sure the chain is always on the large front chainring and small in the back. Never...ever...EVER take a photo with the chain crossed. this means, no large to large or small to small. We will hurt you and call you bad names.
-Solid backgrounds that contrast from your bikes colors are generally best to show off all the details of the bike. If you had a solid white bike, a white garage door might not in your best interest. Same for a black bike against a black wall. But generally speaking, a garage door or light colored wall works best.
05-31-17, 02:24 PM
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First impressions on reading your ride description, was "hmm, hope I don't break my face on this thing" haha, but I think I will be ok. Sounds like it will be punchy and fun to ride and a snappy contrast to my other bike, which has a more laid back attitude. Yeah I read your earlier write up when I was combing the forums looking for intel on these frames before buying.
For my build, going pretty basic and budget oriented, as is my norm: Ultegra 6800, Fulcrum Quattro LG, Deda/Zipp/Selle Italia cockpit, and Stages PM. Carbon wheels would look great on here, maybe down the road-bit of a retrogrouch) the Quattro LGs aesthetically won't look out of place, and I really like how they ride. Going for the Black/Jade. Cant wait!
Sounds like it will be punchy and fun to ride and a snappy contrast to my other bike, which has a more laid back attitude. Yeah I read your earlier write up when I was combing the forums looking for intel on these frames before buying.For my build, going pretty basic and budget oriented, as is my norm: Ultegra 6800, Fulcrum Quattro LG, Deda/Zipp/Selle Italia cockpit, and Stages PM. Carbon wheels would look great on here, maybe down the road-bit of a retrogrouch
) the Quattro LGs aesthetically won't look out of place, and I really like how they ride. Going for the Black/Jade. Cant wait!Sounds like a solid, no nonsense build, just right for this frame. Looking forward to some pictures once it's built up.
05-31-17, 02:28 PM
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Never cared for the geometry of that frame. Always reminds me of a squatting dog pooping. Dont like the lines of the rear fork. Dont like the seatpost and the stack of spacers above the stem. Dont get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that is a bad bike in any shape or form. I just wouldn't break my neck to take a second look if I saw it on the streets.
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The Campagnolo Chorus on the De Rosa shifts perfectly. Chorus is mechanically identical to Record. Campagnolo got this group right. I have since replaced the shifter cable housing between the rear derailleur and the chainstay braze-on.
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When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.
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-1 on the horrible-looking seatpost (always reminds me of a huge adam's-apple)
-1 on the tires not being mounted to line up the Schwalbe logos with the Fulcrum ones
-1 on the spacers above the stem
Otherwise, it's one of the better-looking paint jobs I've seen on a Roubaix and I bet it's a great-riding bike.
-1 on the tires not being mounted to line up the Schwalbe logos with the Fulcrum ones
-1 on the spacers above the stem
Otherwise, it's one of the better-looking paint jobs I've seen on a Roubaix and I bet it's a great-riding bike.
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Time to upgrade soon, curious on what you fellas rate her at.
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BMC = HOT
I'm not normally a BMC fan, but the first glace grabs you!
I'm not normally a BMC fan, but the first glace grabs you!
