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Careful with that pepper spray, Eugene

Old 08-11-08, 07:08 AM
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Careful with that pepper spray, Eugene

While pulling a slower rider up to the rest of the group, I got hit by a cloud of something that burned my eyes, nose, face, lips. AAAGH! WTF! I got off the bike and was flapping my hands, jumping around. Just had to put Cytomax in both bottles so couldn't even wash my face. Another rider helped me out and squirted water into my eyes. Dang! That stuff burned like a MF!

Turns out a dog was harrassing the lead group and was subjected to some pepper spray. But that was 200 meters up the road. Stuff lingers in the air a long time; especially in the shade with no wind.

The rider with me got some on her face but not in the eyes. She said it was like eating habanero peppers.
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if they had just shot the dog with a 9mm, this never would have happened.
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Sorry to hear your story, but LOL on the Floyd reference!
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Ouch, sorry to hear about your experience. Someone told me that pepper spray is far worse than getting hit with a taser or stun gun. Only imagine getting a direct hit with it, the Cytomax would be much more appealing on the eyes.
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Originally Posted by roshea
Sorry to hear your story, but LOL on the Floyd reference!
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That was just a little bit...try getting it sprayed at you from 8ft away right on your forehead and in your eyes. Had to do that while I was in the Coast Guard, my eyes were on fire for an hour...it sucked.

Any ways, I don't think people realize how potent it is, just a little bit floating around (like in your case) can bring on some burn. If you ever get hit directly be careful taking a shower, the stuff reactivates (water based) and runs down to places you'd rather not have on fire.
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Seems y'all might need to have a major meeting with Bozo McGadget. Even the version that shoots a stream, instead of a spray, will generate a mist when it hits something. Flushing with copious amounts of water is the recommended immediate first aid. I have heard of a product sold through police supply places that will neutralize it in the field, but I doubt is is intended for use in the eyes. Don't use any soap or such before the affected area has been flushed well with plain water, and you don't want to open the skin's pores with too-warm or hot water.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
While pulling a slower rider up to the rest of the group, I got hit by a cloud of something that burned my eyes, nose, face, lips. AAAGH! WTF! I got off the bike and was flapping my hands, jumping around. Just had to put Cytomax in both bottles so couldn't even wash my face. Another rider helped me out and squirted water into my eyes. Dang! That stuff burned like a MF!

Turns out a dog was harrassing the lead group and was subjected to some pepper spray. But that was 200 meters up the road. Stuff lingers in the air a long time; especially in the shade with no wind.

The rider with me got some on her face but not in the eyes. She said it was like eating habanero peppers.
Unless the Rottweiler had dragged him off the bike and was tucking in for a meal, pepper spray is way overkill.

Tell him the next time his kids come yapping up your driveway, maybe you'll just spray them down, since it's too risky to wait and find out whether they're breaking windows or selling cookies.
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nless the Rottweiler had dragged him off the bike and was tucking in for a meal, pepper spray is way overkill.

Tell him the next time his kids come yapping up your driveway, maybe you'll just spray them down, since it's too risky to wait and find out whether they're breaking windows or selling cookies.
Hell no it isn't. A gun is overkill, pepper spray is in fact the perfect, non-lethal, solution for some dog whose jackass owners don't have common sense enough to chain him up so he doesn't go getting himself into trouble.

A dog is an animal (yes humans are mammals too). I'd react the same way if it was a cat, otter, whale, or an elephant.

pepper spray is kind of like pretending your a skunk. I could think of far crueler things to do to a dog chasing me on a bike.
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Originally Posted by malpag3
pepper spray is kind of like pretending your a skunk. I could think of far crueler things to do to a dog chasing me on a bike.
1) Most absurd analogy ever.

2) I can think of far less cruel things to do to a dog that would get the animal to back off. Like spraying it with water (has worked for me in the past).
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Originally Posted by malpag3
Hell no it isn't. A gun is overkill, pepper spray is in fact the perfect, non-lethal, solution for some dog whose jackass owners don't have common sense enough to chain him up so he doesn't go getting himself into trouble.

A dog is an animal (yes humans are mammals too). I'd react the same way if it was a cat, otter, whale, or an elephant.

pepper spray is kind of like pretending your a skunk. I could think of far crueler things to do to a dog chasing me on a bike.
Well, a little pepper spray for the OWNER wouldn't be overkill ;-)

And if it was just like being a skunk, then the other riders would have been going "pheeyewww!" not "OW! OW! OMG IT BURNS GET IT OFF ME OW OW OW".

But if you don't mind being pepper sprayed, then who am I to mind it for you.
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How is it absurd? A skunk sprays a dog only a few times before the dogs learn not to **** with the skunk. A skunks spray burns, sticks around FAR longer than pepper spray, and is non-lethal.

Yeah, water...hey if it works, but I'm not about to get god knows what from the dog because I was too "nice" and it nipped my ankle. It's a dog. We have a weird notion of dogs as people in the West. Check out parts of the world/country where dogs are not people and definitely beasts to not be reckoned with. If they want you, water is not going to stop them.
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Dogs are not people or beasts...that's the problem. People either treat them like people, which is unnatural to them and promotes disorders or they treat them like beasts, which usually makes them pretty vicious.

Either way is jacked up...if people treated their dog like a dog it would know it's place and just look up as cyclists went by and then go back to licking itself. It wouldn't care that a posse of 2 wheeled things were riding by.
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Good point, but you don't know what a random dog is/has that's running up to you.

Pepper spray schmepper spray...this is what I carry when I do carry...



Dogs, people, whatever...they're gonna get a face full of capsaicin if they ask for it.

However, I'd never be foolish enough to unleash this in a crowd or group ride! It'll straight **** you up.
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Originally Posted by malpag3
Check out parts of the world/country where dogs are not people and definitely beasts to not be reckoned with.
I believe you're referring to those parts of the world/country where the animals are far less domesticated, if at all. Great analogy, malpag3. A real apples-to-apples comparison there.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
1) Most absurd analogy ever.

2) I can think of far less cruel things to do to a dog that would get the animal to back off. Like spraying it with water (has worked for me in the past).
1) Not absurd, it's a fact. The smell deters the dog just as a skunk would.

2) You add nothing to most threads but sarcasm. Congratulations.
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Okay, so am I the only one who doesn't get the Floyd reference?
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Originally Posted by ehidle
Okay, so am I the only one who doesn't get the Floyd reference?
Nope. I think we're too young.
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I believe you're referring to those parts of the world/country where the animals are far less domesticated, if at all. Great analogy, malpag3. A real apples-to-apples comparison there.
How about just leave it at your point instead of your crappy "great analogy" asshat commentary. I was making a comment about our treatment of animals as people and how we think we are "domesticating" them. They are still animals. I've seen/read plenty of stories about "domesticated" animals acting like animals and biting the faces off people. I don't know if a random dog running up is "domesticated" and I sure as **** don't care to find out.

2) You add nothing to most threads but sarcasm. Congratulations.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
While pulling a slower rider up to the rest of the group, I got hit by a cloud of something that burned my eyes, nose, face, lips. AAAGH! WTF! I got off the bike and was flapping my hands, jumping around. Just had to put Cytomax in both bottles so couldn't even wash my face. Another rider helped me out and squirted water into my eyes. Dang! That stuff burned like a MF!

Turns out a dog was harrassing the lead group and was subjected to some pepper spray. But that was 200 meters up the road. Stuff lingers in the air a long time; especially in the shade with no wind.

The rider with me got some on her face but not in the eyes. She said it was like eating habanero peppers.

Something like that happened to me last year. I was on a charity ride and some dork in front of me sprayed a dog and this cloud of pepper spray hit me in the face. I was only like 10 yards from him when it happened. I gave him an earful and he was really being a total jerk about it. We exchanged words for the next 15 miles. I stopped at a Fire Station to rinse out my eyes and he came up to me wanting to discuss it more. I gave him a long exchange and politely told him how stupid spraying a 10lb yap dog was without looking back. I would say my "tone" was pretty unpolite.

Well, yesterday was the anniversary of that ride. My group was doing it and we had a paceline of about 25. We joked about the spot when I passed it. At mile 50, three of us jumped and left the main group. About 2 miles later, a paceline of about 9 riders passed us back. Well, we didn't see who it was but we decided to play an jump in their paceline. Our fast rider ended up passing the whole group to see what they would do. Two of them jump and passed him back. I was sitting at 10th and decided to pass the whole line. As I was passing, I looked at the riders and there was that pepper spray dude from last year...I gave him "the look" and kept going. I get in slot one and at that time 4 of us have gapped the field.

One of their guys pass us back and Michael and I ease in behind him. This guy is pulling at 22mph into a slight headwind and about 1 mile later, Michael is yelling at him to rotate out. I increase speed to 24-25mph and rotate and Michael goes 25-26 pulling. We look back and nobody. Michael and I get to the parking lot and a few minutes later our third rider comes in laughing. I say what's up? he says...you remember that guy that pepper sprayed you last year? I said, "yeah..he was in that group." He says, "well he broke a shifter cable 4 miles to go". I just say, "there is justice"

We see that group a few minutes later and they look like the french swim team.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
1) Most absurd analogy ever.

2) I can think of far less cruel things to do to a dog that would get the animal to back off. Like spraying it with water (has worked for me in the past).

Running over the smaller ones works too. I clipped one the other day with a rear tire. I didn't even break stride. Gotta watch those bezerkers. Kinda like the guy riding a hybrid bike holding the center line even after you yell, "on your left". You never know where those riders are going to end up.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
if they had just shot the dog with a 9mm, this never would have happened.
Guns are just way to heavy to carry around. Plus if you carried one it would get all sweaty and lock up. (personally I'd have a hard time shooting a dog)

Pepper spray sucks. I got sprayed as a reserve police officer years ago during training.... I still hate the stuff.
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Originally Posted by Hunt-man
I got sprayed as a reserve police officer years ago during training.... I still hate the stuff.
Exactly, lol.

I rode with a guy saturday that busted his bike and himself a little a couple of weeks ago b/c he endoed trying to not hit a dog. Any ways, last saturday he fixed a small airhorn to his handlebars, scared the living bejesus out of all the dogs that came near us.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
Nope. I think we're too young.
I'm 40 and I don't get it either. I was looking for a reference to Floyd Landis at first, but I can't find any Pink Floyd reference either. Something to do with Floyd Mayweather maybe? Hurricane Floyd?
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