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Old 08-17-08, 04:26 PM
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Why dont you like them?

I know most people on here hates walmart bikes. i've had a few walmart bikes in my lifetime and as long as you take care of them their fine. Ive had a wal mart bmx,mountain, and road bike. Ive had good bikes too. Why dont you like them?
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Wal-Mart makes road bikes? This is news to me.

Did a bit of reading, and found that most of their bikes are just low range bikes from other manufactures. Except their road bikes, which are "Corsa" that I have never heard of before. However the top end bike on-line is a $1,600 full carbon setup with Ultegra and a bit of 105. Which seems questionable to me.

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BF just keeps getting better and better.
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Originally Posted by sgp7679 View Post
I know most people on here hates walmart bikes. i've had a few walmart bikes in my lifetime and as long as you take care of them their fine. Ive had a wal mart bmx,mountain, and road bike. Ive had good bikes too. Why dont you like them?
Yeah, you think they're fine, until you own a real bike. Ignorance is bliss.
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Bad grammar and spellng? check. From Texas? check. Posts in the road forums in praise of wal-mart bikes? check.

Recipe for fail.
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Originally Posted by sgp7679 View Post
I know most people on here hates walmart bikes. i've had a few walmart bikes in my lifetime and as long as you take care of them their fine. Ive had a wal mart bmx,mountain, and road bike. Ive had good bikes too. Why dont you like them?
Looks to me like you've answered your own question...
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walmart bike 30lbs, stem mounted shifter and $300 (at least the ones I saw or spend under $300 get a used 20lb name brand bike a few years old.

thats my bet.

maybe good for a little it, but if you ride more than just on trails on the weekend you will want better, I went from walmart mtb to 20yo cannondale road bike to full cf bike in year, my wife thought i was crazy spending 150 on a 20yo bike, i've lost 30lbs and am in better shape than ever.
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They're nice bikes for those who need something to get back and forth from the local liquor store, or Walmart.
Once you have to ride one for any longer length of time, they become, well, painful.

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Originally Posted by BarryJo View Post
They're nice bikes for those who need something to get back and forth from the local liquor store, or Walmart.
Once you have to ride one for any longer length of time, they become, well, painful.
Presuming they last long enough to be painful. I know people who do all kinds of riding on all kinds of bikes. I have yet to meet someone who rides department store bikes even 100 miles/week on a regular basis.
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ok, I'll try to give a serious somewhat complete answer. The short take is that a $249 bike that poorly adjusted, largely non repairable, ends up costing more that a $450 bike from an LBS that is actually put together correctly, will last for awhile and can be serviced and repaired.

There are some examples of discount bikes that are ok for someone on an extreme budget, if and its a big if, they know how to do their own wrenching.

But for the most parts the Wallyworld bikes are very hevy, poorly made, poorly assembled and adjusted,a nd can't be repaired cost effectively.

If your budget is very limited, you're almost always better off with a used bike in reasonable condition for the same price.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
ok, I'll try to give a serious somewhat complete answer. The short take is that a $249 bike that poorly adjusted, largely non repairable, ends up costing more that a $450 bike from an LBS that is actually put together correctly, will last for awhile and can be serviced and repaired.

There are some examples of discount bikes that are ok for someone on an extreme budget, if and its a big if, they know how to do their own wrenching.

But for the most parts the Wallyworld bikes are very hevy, poorly made, poorly assembled and adjusted,a nd can't be repaired cost effectively.

If your budget is very limited, you're almost always better off with a used bike in reasonable condition for the same price.
Although Xmarts do seem to have some pretty nice cruisers... I should pick one of those up...
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Old 08-17-08, 05:25 PM
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I'll follow up from merlinextralight's answer.

I think that X-Mart bikes (as we affectionately call them here) are great for people who know nothing about bikes and are either looking to start out and give the activity a try, or people who are on a budget and just want to go weekend riding or something of the sort. Here are the problems with them:
  • Quality: The manufactuers of these bikes use the cheapest manufacturing processes possible, which make for very heavy bikes that may not be as reliable as those from bigger companies,
  • Servicing: To take good care of these sorts of bikes require many tune-ups and adjustments, which at the end of the day will add up to the price of a less demanding bike.
  • Support: This can really vary from company to company. When I had my Schwinn Ditch a few years ago, the seatstay sheared unexpectedly. This is obviously a manufacturing defect, so I called Pacific Cycle up and within a week or two, I had a completely new bike with everything that came with it. I didn't sell the other parts because they are pretty low-end. Great service. On the other hand, I highly doubt that companies like Huffy or Murray have the same level of customer service, though I could very well be wrong.
  • Initial Assembly: The people that assemble these bikes are usually not experienced in building bikes, and tend to assemble them incorrectly or hastily. This was most likely the cause of the accident described above. Thus, I always recommend that people who buy bikes from these stores send them to the bike shop for a glance-over.

Again, those on limited budgets that take care of their bikes will normally not see any problems. Like everyone else, when they reach the upper limits of the bike, they will upgrade to something more reputable. At least that's what I did: I went from a Schwinn Ditch to an old Specialized Allez, then to my current Trek 1000, and now I'm upgrading to a Kestrel Talon. Without that Schwinn Ditch, I may not have gotten as far (both physically, mentally and athletically).

Just sayin'.
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one of my non-cycling friends wanted to switch bikes with me in the middle of an easy little 10 miler. I borrowed his "mountain bike" After 2 miles it would not shift at all, it was stuck in one gear. after 5 miles the pedal just broke off. No I am not exaggerating. It was funny.
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic View Post
Thus, I always recommend that people who buy bikes from these stores send them to the bike shop for a glance-over.
While I couldn't agree more, I imagine the conversation between the x-mart bike buyer and lbs would go something like this:

X-mart buyer to LBS: "Can you take a quick look at this bike to make sure it was built correctly?"

LBS: "Sure, our normal price for assembly of a bike not purchased here is $40."

X-mart buyer to LBS: "Whooooaaaaa, I only paid $63 for it. Forget it, I'll take my chances."

Bike ends up at the dump in a year, buyer goes to X-mart and buys another bargain bike for $62 ("Falling Prices").
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This has got to be a joke. Next time you're in Wal-Mart shopping for a bike, get the "bike specialist" and ask him if he can tune a derailleur. Or adjust a brake cable.

I'm not even going to get into Wal-Mart's business scummy business tactics (both internally and externally) and what they're doing to your local economy.
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Well, the BF population is surprisingly well behaved today

I will add this link, I found very useful:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...+road+buy+bike

Someone add this link to a sticky, variations of this question are asked all the time.
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I was wondering when a Wal Mart shill would show up.
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yeah walmart bikes are a little heavier and other stuff, but for the average joe who wants a nice bike and dosent want to pay a ridiculious price and can take care of a bike, a walmart bike is good. Im pretty sure that all the problems you describe with you bike is because you didnt put it together right or didnt take care of it. Ive never experienced the problems you describe. ive had alot and know alot of people with walmart bikes and they all work great for years. infact i still have my bmx that i got atleast 9 years ago from walmart and its still working fine. and im sure your first bike wasnt a $1000 bike, it was probably a old xmart bike. i remember my first bike and i loved it, it was a old huffy.
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Originally Posted by bsyptak View Post
While I couldn't agree more, I imagine the conversation between the x-mart bike buyer and lbs would go something like this:

X-mart buyer to LBS: "Can you take a quick look at this bike to make sure it was built correctly?"

LBS: "Sure, our normal price for assembly of a bike not purchased here is $40."

X-mart buyer to LBS: "Whooooaaaaa, I only paid $63 for it. Forget it, I'll take my chances."

Bike ends up at the dump in a year, buyer goes to X-mart and buys another bargain bike for $62 ("Falling Prices").
True for those that are cheap and want cheap stuff...they get what they paid for.

This advice is more suited towards those that thought they dropped a pretty penny on a bike they saw at Costco (like I did at the time).
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Wal-Mart bikes aren't bikes, they are toys.

Toys are made as cheaply as possible in order to increase profit margins.

I'd rather buy something that has weight, durability and strength as the major factors that determine its construction, not it's cost.
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Originally Posted by mazdaspeed View Post
Bad grammar and spellng? check. From Texas? check. Posts in the road forums in praise of wal-mart bikes? check.

Recipe for fail.
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Originally Posted by mazdaspeed View Post
Bad grammar and spellng? check. From Texas? check. Posts in the road forums in praise of wal-mart bikes? check.

Recipe for fail.
Not sure what Texas has to do with your classic backfire, but I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinions.
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Originally Posted by dallasmike View Post
Not sure what Texas has to do with your classic backfire, but I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinions.
My typing is just too good for my keyboard, the I didn't register because of my epic speed. Thanks windows.

And for the record I'm not impressed by most things that come from Texas, with a few exceptions.
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Originally Posted by palu View Post
This has got to be a joke. Next time you're in Wal-Mart shopping for a bike, get the "bike specialist" and ask him if he can tune a derailleur. Or adjust a brake cable.

I'm not even going to get into Wal-Mart's business scummy business tactics (both internally and externally) and what they're doing to your local economy.
When I started riding about 3 years ago, my first bike was a Walmart bike. I actually really liked it and used it with no problems. I found it to be a lot more comfortable than the bike I had as a kid. I ended up putting about 500 miles on it. Once I became a more serious rider, I eventually upgraded to a Trek hybrid, and then to a road bike. My only complaint with the Walmart bike was that it was heavy and slow. However it worked just fine and would be fine for a casual cyclist. Obviously a serious cyclist will want something more.

The Walmart out here in Charles Town WV is one of the most popular places in town, selling comparable goods for less than other places in the area. I personally support their business practices and will continue to shop there. They do indeed have low prices on items people need like food and medicine. It's easy for someone with a lot of money to scoff at their "business practices", but if you're on a limited budget you don't have that luxury. As for the employees who are forced at gunpoint to work there for low wages and no healthcare, something tells me that if they are very sneaky they could seek employment elsewhere if there are truly better jobs to be found for which they are qualified.

Our Walmart also made a generous contribution to our Tour de Cure team, and assists our church with our mortgage payment by contributing a certain percentage of what parishioners purchase using prepaid cards that are for sale there.
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