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Old 08-18-08, 06:20 PM
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Help me fit my bike better. With Pic.

So I coudnt figure out how to do a sillouhette of myself on my bike so im just posting the picture itself. I tipped my head up so the whole internets wouldnt know exactly what i look like. So few things:

-5'11"
-210lbs.
-This is a 56cm bike with a 31" standover, I might have been able to go bigger but thats what i get for buyin online.
-It is alot more comfortable with the seat moved all the way forward but then it feels off balance like I am leaning to far over the handlebars.
-The seat lower is also more comfortable but then my knees hurt becuase my legs are not extended enough.

Overall I feel that I am reaching to far, especially when in the drops. Pretty much the only time im in the drops is when im going downhill farely fast.

Maybe I just have to get more use to it? Or maybe the bike just doesnt fit me? Or maybe I am just a d-bag, help me internets.



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Old 08-18-08, 06:25 PM
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looks good to me
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Old 08-18-08, 06:34 PM
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Bend your arms, at least a little whenever riding.

Drops while going downhill fast is a good start. Try doing it a little more each ride during fast flat sections. Try rotating the handlebars a little (bottom comes toward you) to make the drops feel like a little less of a reach. If you continue to feel too stretched out after that, look into getting a shorter stem.

Saddle height looks fine.

We could also use a shot with your left pedal forward, cranks parallel to the ground. This will help to determine if your seat is too far forward or back.
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Old 08-18-08, 06:38 PM
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The stretch will feel more natural as you become more flexible and loose all that baby fat that you've got stored around your waist. It's hard to tell about the seat height when you're wearing the skater shorts.
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Old 08-18-08, 06:50 PM
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Seat height looks maybe a touch high. Do your hips rock when you pedal?

Also, can you put the heel of your foot on the underside of the pedal. One check of seat height is your leg should be fully extended doing that, bu without you having to move on the seat, or lower your hip to do it.

The reach to the bars looks pretty good. If anything you could be a touch more stretched out. This is a matter of getting used to riding.

If after some miles you're still not comfortable, you might consider decreasing the drop from seat to handlebars, and possibly moving the handlebars forward a little bit as you move them up.
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Old 08-18-08, 06:55 PM
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Looks good overall, seat might be a bit to high, hard to tell with that picture.

When you are in the drops, you should bend your elbows.

Can't tell your fore-aft seat position from the pic you provided. Take another with your feet at the 3/9 o'clock position.
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I prefer a more stretched out position, but you may not like it. It gives me a lower profile and more room in the torso to breathe. Sliding your seat all of the way back on the seatpost mount and adding a couple of centimeters length to your stem would do that.
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Old 08-18-08, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mt.Hoodlum View Post

-It is alot more comfortable with the seat moved all the way forward but then it feels off balance like I am leaning to far over the handlebars.
This is one of the key issues of fitting right here. If you position the seat too far forward you lean too far over the handlebars. Put the seat back again to get your balance right and consider that saddle discomfort is a separate issue.

The best starting point for fore/aft saddle position is called KOPS (knee over pedal spindle). KOPS can generate much debate but its still the best place to start. Drop a plumb line down from the small indent just to the front/side of your knee cap down past the pedal spindle. To start with get them to line up. This can be fun and games sometimes because as you raise and lower your saddle this point moves too.

Anyway it can take time to get used to a road saddle and you may try a few out but don't go changing your KOPS position for saddle discomfort. They are separate issues.

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Old 08-18-08, 07:22 PM
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the frame looks a little small. it's hard to say - have any pictures of you with the pedals at 9/3 o' clock? if that were me i'd:

- get some larger toe clips - MKS makes them in different sizes, your foot looks like you need to move it a bit forward.

- get slightly narrower bars, it appears like you're angling your hands outwards on the tops & drops.

- move the saddle back, probably get a stem that's 2cm longer and move the quill up a few - your arms don't look to be bent nearly enough in either position
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Are you sure that bike is a 56cm? Is that C-T or C-C? I think the bike looks very small for you.

You look like you're leaning over the front of your handlebars, but maybe that's because your seat is too far forward. Try moving the seat farther back and raising your handlebars. How much lower is the handlebar than your seat? Not being able to raise your handlebar to a comfortable level is a good sign that your bike is too small.
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Old 08-18-08, 07:53 PM
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that sure doesn't look like a 56 to me, but i do find with pics like this on the net frames always look small.
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All good stuff guys thanks, Ill take another pic with the pedals in 9-3 tomorrow and mess around with all the stuff you guys suggested.
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Originally Posted by Surferbruce View Post
that sure doesn't look like a 56 to me, but i do find with pics like this on the net frames always look small.

Interesting you say that, I had originally ordered a 53cm, knowing nothing about bikes. I then changed my order last minute to a 56cm. Talked to the woman at BD over the phone and she said she was just sending the order over to the warehouse and that she got it changed to the 56cm. Maybe she didnt? The box said 56cm when it arrived. How could I measure it to be sure?
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Old 08-18-08, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rizz View Post
The stretch will feel more natural as you become more flexible and loose all that baby fat that you've got stored around your waist. It's hard to tell about the seat height when you're wearing the skater shorts.
Baby fat, thats funny. Fat guys cant where those tight little shorts, its just wrong. When i get skinny i will.
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Originally Posted by Mt.Hoodlum View Post
Interesting you say that, I had originally ordered a 53cm, knowing nothing about bikes. I then changed my order last minute to a 56cm. Talked to the woman at BD over the phone and she said she was just sending the order over to the warehouse and that she got it changed to the 56cm. Maybe she didnt? The box said 56cm when it arrived. How could I measure it to be sure?
Measure along the seat tube, from the center of the bottom bracket (ie, the crank spindle bolt) to the center of the top tube. 53cm would be appropriate for someone 4 inches shorter than you. Even 56cm might be too small.

Please also post a photo of the bike with no one sitting on it.
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Originally Posted by Mt.Hoodlum View Post
Interesting you say that, I had originally ordered a 53cm, knowing nothing about bikes. I then changed my order last minute to a 56cm. Talked to the woman at BD over the phone and she said she was just sending the order over to the warehouse and that she got it changed to the 56cm. Maybe she didnt? The box said 56cm when it arrived. How could I measure it to be sure?
Follow this image to measure. I'd bet money it's not a 53.



It's the one that says ``seat tube.''

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Old 08-18-08, 08:16 PM
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No way that's a 56 cm
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What size was your previous bike? Was that one comfortable for you? Is this bike bigger or smaller?
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You need to look like this:
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Frame looks OK to me. If you're feeling stretched out it may well be that you need to get accustomed to your new ride (assuming you're new to road bikes?). I imagine that if you ride with your hands on the tops, you'd be pretty upright.

Given where I think your saddle is, the frame size doesn't look bad, if you needed to play around with reach, a different stem could solve that, but it might be worth giving it some time. Definitely spend time thinking about bending your arms when you're riding (your pose might have made you lock your elbows more than you do when you're on the road).

I'd think about making sure that your saddle fore/aft position and height/angle are sorted first - no knee issues, then work on fine tuning the reach if you find it's still uncomfortable after a few rides.

BTW -- waaayyy better to have a headless picture than a silhouette....
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Originally Posted by Surferbruce View Post
that sure doesn't look like a 56 to me, but i do find with pics like this on the net frames always look small.
i was thinking the same thing - the head tube looks really short for a 56
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Originally Posted by sers View Post
i was thinking the same thing - the head tube looks really short for a 56
exactly. i'd bet money it's a 53.
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Are those the shoes you wear while riding? Different shoes have different sole thicknesses and could change be over a cm. Your saddle looks high. Knees should have between 25-35 degree bend at the bottom of the stroke.
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Pretty sure a 53 wouldn't have a measured stand-over height of 31...just sayin'.

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Originally Posted by Tunnelrat81 View Post
Pretty sure a 53 wouldn't have a measured stand-over height of 31...just sayin'.

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Since he's quoting the online specs to what he ordered, it doesn't have a 31 stand-over if they sent him a 53.
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