Plow13

So after i get home from work around 10pm or so, i go usually go for a short ride if i didn't ride before work. So this loop is my one of the ones i usually do and it's around 10 miles on length...I'm linkin my garmin stats and i was wondering...do i consider between mile 8.4 and 9.6 mile one hill or two? It's pretty much the same road and i was wondering if you would consider it one 1.5mile hill or a 1 mile hill and .5 mile hill? Also on another note, this was my fastest average at night!

https://trail.motionbased.com/trail/e...kValue=6608604

cadencesdad

One hill.

umd

One

Btw, I was prepared to have some kind of "what hill?" retort, but that looks like a good hill.

Sage23

I don't get it . . . is this a trick question?

Yes, its one hill.

And +1 to umd -- that's a good hill!

hollow

I'm 200 lbs...I see six hills.

Plow13

hahah i weigh in at 201lbs =)

no trick...i was just wondering because there is that little dip there and i can coast for almost 10-20 seconds and kind of recover

That hill is no joke for me....by the time i'm like .5mile up it, my heart says no more but i never stop! I just kinda slow down the cadence and try to recover a bit

jcbenten

Try starting slow, maintain, and increase tempo at the top.

nachomc

Don't be a *****. I'm 205 and see just one little girlie hill.

bdcheung

I'm 145 and I don't see a hill at all, just another opportunity for me to drop your smug ass.

You should ditch that attitude, it's slowing you down.

CastIron

Then order me a skirt and new pumps. That sucker would hurt.

nachomc

Don't be so sensitive, Sally.

mista_chewey

500feet? is that a big hill? serious question i live in houston, it's flatter than the ocean surface here

brianappleby

500 feet is 5-10 minutes at a "climbing" pace.

umd

It's not a "big" hill but it is certainly enough to be considered a hill, at least. It is certainly more than the freeway overpass that some people consider hills... But what constitutes a hill will always be subjective. In my race on Saturday, I was trying to convince a guy to try to stay away with me (we were already a little bit up the road from the field) and he said that "that last hill" had really hurt him. I replied, "what hill?"

Little Darwin

I am NOT a climber, so don't consider this a criticism, but when I went back, I was surprised to see this considered as a hill by someone in Pennsylvania. It isn't even a 10% grade. (almost, but not quite)

To me, the street I live on is a gentle slope, and it is almost a 10% grade...

But I would also consider it one hill, and not two. and an average of almost 10% for over a mile would be tough for me... even if it wasn't as steep as some of the hills in PA.

So, do you find it easier or harder to climb this hill at night? Or does it matter? I'm just curious if there is a psychological difference in whether you can see the top of the hill etc.

Creakyknees

Here in DFW area of Texas, that's a big-ass hill.

Where I vacation in Arkansas, that's just a warm-up. It's all relative.

Either way, whether the OP treats it as one hill or two is really more about how he wants to train than anything else.

umd

I've never heard of anyone considering 10% the cutoff for something to be considered a hill.

RoadToad

LOLOLOLOL

Booger

Not a big hill, but a hill nonetheless. I ride a similar hill (between mile 9 and 11) on one of my routine rides and am usually in 34-25 all the way up.

umd

So is this one hill or two?

Booger

Welcome to the internets. First day?

Also, I wouldn't consider that a hill. I do 10,000 feet vertical climbing as my morning warm-up and I don't consider it tough at all.

nachomc

That looks like it might hurt.

umd

Even on the bizzaro-reality of bikeforums, I don't think anyone has claimed that something needs to be 10% to be considered a hill. Often people claim 4% as a cutoff between a "false flat" and a "climb"

merlinextraligh

It is what it is, regardless of what you choose to call it.

If your purpose is to train for sustained climbing on the hill, keep your effort up on the 10-20 second dip, speed up your cadence, and/or shift up so you keep your power and your heart rate up,not allowing yourself to recover.

Medpilot

I'd say one hill also. Just like my ride on Sunday. One hill. Well, the same hill twice I live in a bowl.