What's wrong with a camelback
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OP - using a CB may or may not make you a Fred. But admitting you currently have only have one jersey? Uh huh, THAT could be a Fred thing.

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I use Camelbak bottles and that alone makes me feel dirty.
Like umd, I carry bottles in my jersey pockets. I've even done the TdF-style bottle-in-collar trick too, just because I could, but that tends to be uncomfortable.
My question is, what sort of place are you riding where you can't find water? We've evolved into a pretty modern society with all sorts of niceties like that generally available everywhere. Heck, I hear a lot of places even have electricity now. It's a brave new world.
Like umd, I carry bottles in my jersey pockets. I've even done the TdF-style bottle-in-collar trick too, just because I could, but that tends to be uncomfortable.
My question is, what sort of place are you riding where you can't find water? We've evolved into a pretty modern society with all sorts of niceties like that generally available everywhere. Heck, I hear a lot of places even have electricity now. It's a brave new world.
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I carried 3 bottles with me and filled up 3 times on this ride which was mostly in the mountains. If I was going to do that kind of ride and knew I would not be able to fill up somewhere I would consider a camelbak, bue like I said, it's never happened. I don't look down on people who choose to though.
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prep the bladder, then.
fill the thing full of water, and seal it. then get rid of the air bubble that remains; that is what causes the sloshing. suck it out with the hose. if it's only water in the pack it won't slosh.
i ride with my cbak, but i look/act like a noob on the road.
fill the thing full of water, and seal it. then get rid of the air bubble that remains; that is what causes the sloshing. suck it out with the hose. if it's only water in the pack it won't slosh.
i ride with my cbak, but i look/act like a noob on the road.
overall the CB on the road bike experience sucks arse for me. sloshy or not.
later.
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I tried one but found it uncomfortable (sweating, straps). I'd carry it only if I had to ride 100+ km with no place to refill.
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Lightweight road camelbacks are a great tool if you are doing a long ride where there are no places to stop with water, or you don't want to stop for water, or your jersey pockets are too full of calories and other stuff for the ride to carry enough extra bottles. They are also more convenient to drink out of. You can attack with a tube in your mouth. Try that with a bottle at your lips.
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Lightweight road camelbacks are a great tool if you are doing a long ride where there are no places to stop with water, or you don't want to stop for water, or your jersey pockets are too full of calories and other stuff for the ride to carry enough extra bottles. They are also more convenient to drink out of. You can attack with a tube in your mouth. Try that with a bottle at your lips.
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Forty or less miles, bottles. Over that, I bust out the CB. If you were at the HHH you saw many racers using them. But I guess they are Freds??
Not everyone takes a break every 15 miles
Not everyone takes a break every 15 miles

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2 bottles lasted me just fine for my last 70 mile road race. 3 hours, no breaks (duh).
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Hey, Big John, that first photo - is it looking down toward the Lockwood Valley, west of Fraizer Park? I'm guessing Highway 39 for the second shot.
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O.K., here is one from Hwy 39. There are streams along the road and some guys drink from them, but I haven't. I can drain the 70 oz Camelbak on that climb.

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Big John I just did that climb on Saturday when I rode from Huntington Beach to Crystal Lake and back (150 miles solo only 7k boo) . I am part camel so I don't use camel backs. I used a bike bottle (24 oz) and 2 (20 oz) bottles in my jersey pockets plus the two on the bike to do the 23ish mile climb from Encanto Park to Crystal Lake. It was 1:30pm when I started the climb and HOT!. I had plenty of water left over for the descent ( I like to drink at least one bottle on a descent).
I brought the extra water for insurance and when I got down and off the mountain (remote area) I ditched the two water bottles (yes in the trash). I then rode with one in the center pocket and two on the bike for the 50 mile ride home.
I have other reasons why I don't like camelbacks here. Scroll down to camelbacks

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Big John I just did that climb on Saturday when I rode from Huntington Beach to Crystal Lake and back (150 miles solo only 7k boo) . I am part camel so I don't use camel backs. I used a bike bottle (24 oz) and 2 (20 oz) bottles in my jersey pockets plus the two on the bike to do the 23ish mile climb from Encanto Park to Crystal Lake. It was 1:30pm when I started the climb and HOT!. I had plenty of water left over for the descent ( I like to drink at least one bottle on a descent).

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I didn't realize Highway 2 was closed - did that happen last winter, and is it still closed - to cars, anyway? Must be a nice ride, as long as you don't get clonked with a boulder from on high.
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I bought one of those groovy seat-post 2-bottle holders from Aero Design on ebay. Now I can haul 4 water bottles w/o having the CB on my back. I really think it's more comfy, plus there's just something nice about knowing you have 4 water bottles...
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Hwy 2 has been closed for at least 4 years, but it is supposed to open by the end of this year. I hope not, it's nice to go through there with no cars. Recently, they are working Saturdays and won't let us go by, I hope that changes, too. It's nice to go to Wrightwood that way, again with no cars.
Here is the gate near hwy 39.

Here is the one at Vincent Gap with me getting ready for the next climb.
Here is the gate near hwy 39.

Here is the one at Vincent Gap with me getting ready for the next climb.

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George, if you wanted more feet, you could have gone to Dawson Saddle. That would add at least 1500 ft, I think.