Vireo

I going to look that up on the map. This ride was totally unplanned. I didn't leave my house in HB until almost 9am. Tell me what I would have to do to get to Dawson Saddle from the Crystal Lake turn off.


Brandy and I have a free weekend (no kids) we might take you up on the offer to climb with you guys if it still stands.

umd

George, I don't know if you have planned out your weekend yet but I still plan to do 3 days of 10K-13K feet, and you and Brandy are still welcome to stay in our (messy) house. I have something on Sunday morning I have to do but it involves climbing just not at a fast pace.

SKYLAB

FRED = Effing Ridiculous electronic Device

icyclist 

What! No wonder I haven't bother to travel up that way in a while. Maybe I should, before the road is finally repaired.

Vireo

We are trying to stay closer to home. We just decided this last night. Sorry I hadn't told you yet. We are trying to save the gas costs and time in car that could be time in the saddle. I appreciate the offer and we will still climb together.

idcruiserman

Don't forget conduction.

Vireo

For my P3C on Furnace Creek I will be riding a Speedfil. 40 oz

Picked them up as a product sponsor last month. Because I can't stand the bottles behind the seat.

big john

From Crystal Lake, just keep going up 39 to Angeles Crest, turn right. Go around the gate and it's 6 or 7 miles to the top @7901 feet. You could turn back there or go down the other side and see if you can get through. Bob said they stopped him a couple weeks back, this after riding through there for years.

I don't know what we're doing this weekend, but I'll put some threads up here and on that other forum. We'd like to see you two sometime.

mrbubbles

What's the dealio with 3M tapes? You race at night too?

umd

It's a 508 mile race... so yes. Think mini-RAAM.

CharlieWoo

Someone who knows about boundary layers should also know that you can't "pull the cold out" of anything - you can only transfer thermal energy to/from it.

Zan

someone needs a better saddle.

obra3

I wear mine during P/1/2 crits under me jersey. (Albeit it is carrying camera equipment, not hydration)

Vireo

Yes as umd says it is a 508 mile race. It is non-stop, non draft, 35,000 feet of climbing through the Mojave and Death Valley Deserts and points beyond.

The wheels in this picture are my training wheels with a Powertap SL. I commute on them. My morning commute begins pre-dawn (4am-8am) and my evening commute goes into the dark (415pm to 815pm). It is 130 miles round trip and about twice a week. Shorter commutes the other days of the week. Safety first

texascyclist

Sorry, I hate camelback. It takes way too long to get liquid out of it. All it takes for a bottle is a quick squeeze to do what it takes me 10-15 seconds to do with the bladder on my back.

roccobike

I purchased one of those smaller, Camelback fannypaks. It holds about one third the volume of the full size, classic Camelbak. I tried it because I don't like reaching for a bottle when riding in tight double pace lines and I don't like a full Camelbak on a hot, North Carolina day. So far, it's working out OK. The obvious problem, it doesn't hold much liquid. The feed tube is a bit of a hassle because there is no strap over the shoulder like the larger Camelbaks. I've used a large clip to attach it to the helmet strap.

obie

Curious as to what they use.

I remember some conversation on Garmin/Slipstream's radio to VDV in his final TDF TT "...drink now..." and then a comment about that 'bump' under his jersey.

cyccommute 

You're supposed to open the shut off valve before you drink Or maybe cut the tubing to a more manageable length. 15' of tubing is too much.

gsteinb

I'm pretty sure you could strap a floor pump to that thing and lose the Topeka.

big john

I didn't understand that post, either. If you have the standard bite valve, water will come out as soon as you have it in position. Much faster than reaching down for a bottle.

Kotts

I don't like them because my back sweats a lot when I ride. I really need the airflow over my back.

I also don't care for having weight added that high up, but that's just me.

Some people like them. Whatever makes you comfortable / able to get out there and ride is fine by me.

liverust55

I just got a 100oz to replace my 50oz the other day. Of course I live in FL and sweat like a pig, I hate to stop, and I have 25-30 mile stretches where there's nothing around but road and trees... no gas stations or anything. That camelback is almost a necessity sometimes.

umd

It still amazes me that people think that this is really far and that those of us that are camelbak-less must be stopping every 15 miles or so. I can't drink more than about a bottle an hour, even when its hot; It will just slosh around inside me. Therefore 3 bottles (72oz) is enough to last me 3 hours, or much longer if it isn't hot. Even at a moderate pace of 17mph that's over 50 miles.

aham23

me too.

last weekend i did 80 miles, decent effort, and went through three bottles.

later.

Triiop

sounds like theres no real argument against camelbaks other than that some people find them uncomfortable to wear.

I love mine.