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My impression of Neuvation C50C

Old 08-26-08, 12:52 PM
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My impression of Neuvation C50C

The wheels came in a couple of weeks ago, I'm up to 450miles on the new wheels, so I thought I'd share my thoughts on these wheels. They came with ~30mm extenders, brake pads, skewers. You'll need to buy your own rim tape with these.

The shipping was very quick, the were shipped out immediately. They were packaged well, double wrapped in bubble wrap and the boxes they came in were a sort of double layered cardboard.




Out of the box, the wheels were both true, once the bearing were broken in, they spin forever on the stand. The freewheel is fairly loud, about the same as ksyriums.

With 450 miles on they currently, they are still perfectly true and haven't made any strange noises or pinging. They've spent a week in the mountains so far, been taken down a dirt road for 5 miles, I've accidently hit a monster pothole with them and they are holding up great.

I would recommend getting new pads, the ones that come with them are complete garbage. They make alot of noise and wear very, very fast. I'm currently running Dura-Ace carbon pads and they work good and are quite once you toe the pads in enough.

Overall, I'm very happy with these wheels

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arent you affraid the bike will fall over?

can you debage them?

sweet ride.

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Looks good, if the decals are removable you could keep two of them, I think that would look alright.

Did you weigh them? Actual weight vs. Claimed weight?

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Originally Posted by aham23 View Post
can you debage them?

sweet ride.

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I approve the above message.
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I see that the R series rear hub got the same redesign as the M series ones. Good.

I have a set of R-SL wheels and your right, very noisy when freewheeling. The M hubs are quiet as a church mouse.

Thanks for posting your review. One think you didnt mention and one thing that is a peeve with me and my current Neuvation wheelsets; how hard is it to get the tires on the rims?
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You can debadge the rims, the stickers and just sitting on top of the rim. I made sure the bike was sturdy and wasn't going to tip over for the photo.

I did not weigh the wheels, they didn't feel any heavier than my ksyriums though. The skewers are a bit heavy, so you could cut a bunch of weight off by replacing them with something lighter.

The tires were a nightmare to mount, but all of the specialized tires I've mounted new so far have been a huge pain to mount.
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What did you use for tire tools that woudnt damage the rim? Those look like full carbon clinchers.
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Originally Posted by FatguyRacer View Post
What did you use for tire tools that woudnt damage the rim? Those look like full carbon clinchers.
Any plastic tire lever should be fine. Carbon is harder than plastic.
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That's a hot looking bike. Good job.
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Are they clinchers? I have been intrigued with the tubulars, especially since the clinchers have a carbon brake surface as well.

What is your impression with the hub quality? On par with the ksyriums (SL?)? Did you get the ceramic bearings?

Is the aero advantage vs. the ksyriums noticeable? At what speed?

I love your Orca's orange/black color scheme.
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Originally Posted by aham23 View Post
later.
Stop. Seriously. It's not like you're leaving the internet.

Anyway, nice review. Now I know what they'd ride like if ever I weren't never ever going to buy them.
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I love the loud freewheel. It's amazing how many times I've yelled, `On your left!'' and had people completely ignore me but if I coast up with my Neuvations clicking away, they always seem to notice.
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Originally Posted by Silver Litz View Post
Are they clinchers? I have been intrigued with the tubulars, especially since the clinchers have a carbon brake surface as well.

What is your impression with the hub quality? On par with the ksyriums (SL?)? Did you get the ceramic bearings?

Is the aero advantage vs. the ksyriums noticeable? At what speed?

I love your Orca's orange/black color scheme.
They are the clinchers, the hubs seem to be good, they keep spinning and spinning when in the air, they have the standard bearings. They are way better than the ksyriums, I had tons of problems with ksyrium hubs, from failed bearings to going out of adjustment, etc.

Just normal riding I can't tell a difference with an aero advantage, but pulling through at 25-30mph is noticeably easier.
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I've always loved how the 06 Orca looked. Red, blue, orange....all look good. The new orca just doesnt do it for me
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man that font is so fugs. that bike is gorgeous though.
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i was gonna ask if your using the ceramic bearings, but you said your using the standard.

hows the acceleration compared to ksyriums you had? like started from a stop light or say on the flats when your ready to sprint. is there a lag time to get going or are you off and going faster than you'd thought.

also did you invest in the wheel protection plan? i just got a pair of m28s(i'm poor) and was debaiting it. only good for two years and 40bucks to ship it backwards and forwards. i don't feel i ride enough for the investment, but most of the roads are pretty bad around here.
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Jeez, I like those stickers. There a plenty worse stickers going 'round, like these

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Originally Posted by weavers View Post
i was gonna ask if your using the ceramic bearings, but you said your using the standard.

hows the acceleration compared to ksyriums you had? like started from a stop light or say on the flats when your ready to sprint. is there a lag time to get going or are you off and going faster than you'd thought.

also did you invest in the wheel protection plan? i just got a pair of m28s(i'm poor) and was debaiting it. only good for two years and 40bucks to ship it backwards and forwards. i don't feel i ride enough for the investment, but most of the roads are pretty bad around here.

Yep, standard bearings.

They feel the same accelerating, they don't seem any slower or faster to me.

I didn't invest in the protection plan, the wheels are already so inexpensive, it didn't seem worth it.
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Williams Cycling makes reasonably priced wheels as well. Anyone know how they compare to the Neuvations? I have perceived them as equals up to this point.

If it hasn't been done, we need a head-to-head comparo of mid-priced wheels, e.g. Neuvation, Williams, Soul, etc.
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I"ll be going with an aero 4 wheelset very soon.
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Originally Posted by AgentRedlum View Post
Williams Cycling makes reasonably priced wheels as well. Anyone know how they compare to the Neuvations? I have perceived them as equals up to this point.

If it hasn't been done, we need a head-to-head comparo of mid-priced wheels, e.g. Neuvation, Williams, Soul, etc.
All the press I read seems to put the three companies about equal. They're all targeting the same audience and largely using the same components with similar price points. I don't think you can go wrong with any of them for a mid-range wheel.
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Brian416, how are your C50C's holding up? How much mileage have you logged on them so far? Are the rims still true? Any other problems? Any updates would be helpful... thanks.
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They're still going good. The rear had to be trued around 1000miles, the front has stayed true. I only have 1400 miles on them right now, I switched out to aluminum wheels for riding rollers through the winter and salty roads this spring.

I got caught in a torrential downpoor yesterday with them, it took a few revolutions before the brakes pads (swiss stop yellows) would gain some traction but once they did they did a good enough job braking in the rain. I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable racing with them in the rain though.

I took the stickers off them also, I think they look much better
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Thanks for the feedback, IMO, the wheels look better without the stickers.
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These look very much like the Token C50Cs...must have come from the same Taiwan or Chinese supplier.
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