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Old 08-27-08, 04:45 PM
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Super Record

Just received a gruppo from the first batch. The stuff looks great in person & the new levers look like a big improvement ergonomically. Hopefully I will have it on by this weekend.
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I like everything about the group with the exception of the shifters.

Campagnolo has become Shimano and Shimano has become Campagnolo.

Even better: They have tried to become SRAM. =/
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Well, to me the shifters seem like an evolution of the previous version. I've had every revision of the Campy shifters. I know what you mean, all three are looking very similiar in shape & design.
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Form follows function. If they're comfortable and work well, the new shifters are great.
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Originally Posted by BananaTugger View Post
I like everything about the group with the exception of the shifters.

Campagnolo has become Shimano and Shimano has become Campagnolo.

Even better: They have tried to become SRAM. =/
False on all counts. Campagnolo is still Campagnolo. Reserve your opinions until you have tried them.

Now, I need to wait for the Veloce shifters to be available for my winter bike.
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Yeah, I was messing around with the new Super Record briefly and I have to say...not a huge fan. It's sort of ugly and looks like Shimano. I'm a huge Campy fan, been running 10spd Record for years, but this stuff is unlikely to find it's way onto my bike anytime soon. I'm leaning more towards Red for a new group these days, though I think I'll stick with my good old Record for now.
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Originally Posted by mrbubbles View Post
False on all counts. Campagnolo is still Campagnolo. Reserve your opinions until you have tried them.

Now, I need to wait for the Veloce shifters to be available for my winter bike.
Incorrect.

How I think something looks isn't up for you to judge.

I know Campagnolo Record (both Super and 11 speed) is going to work awesomely, because it always does.

The shifters all look the same, now.
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Incorrect.

How I think something looks isn't up for you to judge.

I know Campagnolo Record (both Super and 11 speed) is going to work awesomely, because it always does.


The shifters all look the same, now.
I believe that may be because hands are all pretty much the same (when we eliminate size and reach).

The now 'traditional' Campagnolo shape was a hangover from the old, non-aero brake cable routing days. Look at the bodies of the first generation of aero routed brake cables and you can still the the recess from the mold that was for the cable stop.

Fast forward a few models and they are not so pointy but are basically the same.

The 2009 line was designed from the ground up using contemporary thought with regard to ergonomics. As both Sram and Shimano have recently done the same, it's no surprise that there are similarities in overall basic shape of the shifters.

Also you need to consider the shape of the hood with the other things they've done like moving the pivot point for the brake lever (more responsive braking and a better feel for the brakes from the hoods) the adjustable reach and the hoods themselves (varying densities). As a pkg there are quite a few features that separate them from what else is out there.

Internally they are completely different and more akin to the flatbar internals than the older G-Spring or Escape mechs from previous model years.

Your opinion about how it looks is, of course, your opinion and you are fully entitled to it.

Personally I think the new DA7900 looks too dark and dismal and reminds me of cheap Taiwan components from the early 90's. Other love it. Opinions; they're like a**holes...you know the rest.

I had the 2009 Campagnolo groups in my hands last December and clamped them on some bars. I liked them. I even tore a set apart to peer inside (much to my boss's chagrin) Having never ridden them I will reserve judgment.

I'm looking forward to a ride report.

OP:If you aren't familiar with installing Campagnolo make sure you have someone do it who is. I am particularly interested in how the new chain installation goes. Pay close attention to this and give the destructions a good read. The 5.5 chain is a whole new deal.
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OP:If you aren't familiar with installing Campagnolo make sure you have someone do it who is. I am particularly interested in how the new chain installation goes. Pay close attention to this and give the destructions a good read. The 5.5 chain is a whole new deal.
Hahaha, interesting typo. Freudian slip?
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( fill in your jealous expletive of choice.)
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Hahaha, interesting typo. Freudian slip?
What typo?

I always call them destructions. A little joke just for me.
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WTF? Super record available? Where?
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WTF? Super record available? Where?
Ebay, some European shops and the black market.
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Originally Posted by mrbubbles View Post
False on all counts. Campagnolo is still Campagnolo. Reserve your opinions until you have tried them.

Now, I need to wait for the Veloce shifters to be available for my winter bike.
They are available, and I have a set in transit for my new cross rig.

Head over to Universal Cycles. The have the carbon and alloy too!
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I do want to try riding it...I got to play around with it briefly but no riding on it I'm afraid. I still think it looks ugly as sin though Who knows though, maybe I'll love the ride.
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Campione Cycles in Vancouver has the new super record. I saw it built up on a Pinarello in the show room.
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WTF? Super record available? Where?
op,

Labicicletta's already sold a couple groups... $3300 CAD
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
OP:If you aren't familiar with installing Campagnolo make sure you have someone do it who is. I am particularly interested in how the new chain installation goes. Pay close attention to this and give the destructions a good read. The 5.5 chain is a whole new deal.
Thanks,
I looked at the instructions briefly, I think it uses the same chain tool. A friend of mine is going to install it, he is a much better mechanic than I am. I will let you know how it goes.
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To me, the new Super Record groupset is like a Lamborghini - strange looking, out of this world expensive, but awesome!
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Gruppo installed over the weekend. Everything went on like the previous record group, a few slight changes. Chain goes on the same as before, even the Park chain tool works.
Shifting is a little lighter & smoother, the hoods are a big improvement for me.
I have rather large hands, & these are a much better design for me.




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You win the internets.


Edit: Ride report STAT
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Awesome bike holder!
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You win the internets.


Edit: Ride report STAT
Thanks, please provide a link so I can download my prize .
Differences are subtle. Like I said the action is smoother & lighter. The hoods are much more ergonomic. From the drops they are easier to brake & shift.
I was able to go back to a 53/39 crankset (I didnt have a choice at this time).
I was using a compact crank with a 50/34, 11-21 cassette. I never felt like I was in the correct gear, especially riding in a group with people using standard 53/39 cranksets. With a 11-25 cassette, I have a pretty good range of gear.
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Awesome bike holder!
Thanks, it actually works pretty well for working on/cleaning the bike. It was kind of a temporary thing when I moved in, & that was 12 years ago.
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i love the look of the hoods, they just look so comfy.now i just need my 10 speed stuff to hurry and wear out...hmmm...i suppose i could take a slider for the team....ahh anyway, that's a nice ride man, you're the coolest kid on this block right now.
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