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Old 08-27-08, 08:21 PM
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Air quality

I've been monitoring the air quality lately via an hourly updated website and noticing in Burbank bad air settles I guess and it's typically worse than hollywood and LA. Anyway typically Burbank air is rated as moderate (yellow) or unhealthy to sensitive groups, sometimes even unhealthy for everyone. It's rarely green, I have reserved myself to not riding or running when the air is unhealthy to sensitive groups or worse. Do any of you other guys monitor your air quality, am I just being ridiculous or is there any real benefit to this.
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Old 08-27-08, 08:23 PM
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A benefit is a reduced chance of respiratory problems five, ten, or twenty years down the line. More than worth it.
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there's no need for me... i live in western nebraska
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Good luck with that. You might as well take up an indoor sport like knitting. This is LA! When is the air quality ever good?? Burbank has the 134 and the 5 running right through it.
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I live in a smaller region, so air quality isn't much of an issue. But when I lived in Cambridge, walking up and down certain streets (like Vassar) sucked because of the huge trucks and buses that went about belching smoke into the air. Oh, and that neverending construction. Stresses me out just to think of it. So glad I'm out of there.
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Originally Posted by stagnant View Post
Good luck with that. You might as well take up an indoor sport like knitting. This is LA! When is the air quality ever good??
Actually LA air quality is almost always green according to this site it's burbank that gets the **** air, it gets trapped here. All of Hollywood, Pass, LA and west side will be green burbank will be yellow and not all of it, just where I work and live.
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Originally Posted by photonick View Post
Actually LA air quality is almost always green according to this site it's burbank that gets the **** air, it gets trapped here. All of Hollywood, Pass, LA and west side will be green burbank will be yellow and not all of it, just where I work and live.
Well it's the valley where air tends to stagnate. Hollywood and West LA is on the other side of the hill and benefit from the ocean wind...which blows the smog over the hill into the valley. Don't worry about it, ride in the morning when the air quality is best.
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Toronto is the armpit too, you wouldn't be able to ride in the summer if you were concerned about 'yellow' air quality.
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You will rarely do a ride in Burbank or the San Gabriel valley with that rule. LA is better because it's closer to the ocean, and the wind takes its smog and dumps it to the east. Burbank and San Gabriel valley gets it the worst because the mountains hold it in. I got that information at the Green Port Festival from a guy who's entire job is to monitor the smog in one of the "zones" of LA county and surrounding areas.
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Ah, the fresh, crisp, clean air of Maine...

I suppose there is a benefit to living part of the year in the middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
You will rarely do a ride in Burbank or the San Gabriel valley with that rule. LA is better because it's closer to the ocean, and the wind takes its smog and dumps it to the east. Burbank and San Gabriel valley gets it the worst because the mountains hold it in. I got that information at the Green Port Festival from a guy who's entire job is to monitor the smog in one of the "zones" of LA county and surrounding areas.
I've had good luck I just don't go out when it's orange or red which seems to be once a week at max. I don't know I'm thinking of moving to the other side of the hill, can't stand burbank anyway.
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I've had good luck I just don't go out when it's orange or red which seems to be once a week at max. I don't know I'm thinking of moving to the other side of the hill, can't stand burbank anyway.
As in the San Fernando Valley? The air is better there, but it's also hotter. That's where I'll be moving soon, but for family reasons.

I don't go riding during the firestorms. That puts some nasty stuff in the air.
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I would not read too much into it unless you are a part of the 'sensitive group'. In the long run, the benefits you get out of riding your bike should out way the 'hazards' of Los Angeles air quality.

I live in West LA and work in the San Fernando Valley and I visually notice a dramatic decrease in air quality just from driving over the Santa Monica Mountains.
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I might add, after visiting Angeles Crest Hwy almost every week this Summer, climbing to 3000' and above seems to get you out of most of that crap.
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HA-HA you live in the Valley....

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Just ride your bike over the hill to Hollywood/West LA...where the air is fresh and clean.
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Realize we suck exhaust enough as it is on any given ride that takes you with the flow of the traffic. Whether the air is "green" or not, having car exhaust being blown at you at what I'd consider point blank range I'm sure isn't good over the long run. But hey, we ride ROAD bikes right? I wouldn't worry all too much unless you are in the sensitive group, it's a "red" warning, and like 100+ outside.

Get out and ride!
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Originally Posted by stagnant View Post
Just ride your bike over the hill to Hollywood/West LA...where the air is so fresh, so clean.
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must be all those bike lanes, clogging up traffic..

we're doing well up north:


i've never been to LA, so i don't know how bad it is down there - but when i was in guatemala city, riding in the back of a pickup, the air was so thick with smog we put shirts over our noses.. it was kinda crazy. that was in '98 or so, i wonder what it's like there now.
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Originally Posted by Wested View Post
Ah, the fresh, crisp, clean air of Maine...

I suppose there is a benefit to living part of the year in the middle of nowhere
Yeah.. can't imagine having to monitor my air quality..
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Just ride your bike over the hill to Hollywood/West LA...where the air is fresh and clean.
Or move to China. I hear everything is way better there.
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Originally Posted by photonick View Post
I have reserved myself to not riding or running when the air is unhealthy to sensitive groups or worse. Do any of you other guys monitor your air quality, am I just being ridiculous or is there any real benefit to this.
Only do this for my allergy, to remind me to take the pill.

If yer able to schedule around this, go4it. The damage is cumulative, so not ridiculous at all.

Lived in SoCAL for 3 months... traffic jams all days long, and there is always this SMOG band in the sky... yuk.
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It's a shame, really. Last year, I worked second shift and was able to take many rides in the AC, amongst the trees with little traffic. This year, back on days, so the only time to ride during the week is after work. And I really notice the asthma kicking up after about 15 minutes. It kinda levels off and I can keep breathing in a semi restricted fashion. A couple of times I just couldn't get my breath back, chest was tight, felt like I might keel over.

Yesterday, during my hill repeats up Bel Aire up to Starlight, I was looking out over the valley and I was just sad about the air.

Why is pollution a forgotten issue in the Presidential Campaigns?
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It's a shame, really. Last year, I worked second shift and was able to take many rides in the AC, amongst the trees with little traffic. This year, back on days, so the only time to ride during the week is after work. And I really notice the asthma kicking up after about 15 minutes. It kinda levels off and I can keep breathing in a semi restricted fashion. A couple of times I just couldn't get my breath back, chest was tight, felt like I might keel over.

Yesterday, during my hill repeats up Bel Aire up to Starlight, I was looking out over the valley and I was just sad about the air.

Why is pollution a forgotten issue in the Presidential Campaigns?
Do you drive a hybrid?

I think the global warming issue encompasses pollution.
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