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Dura Ace or Jagwire

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Dura Ace or Jagwire

Its almost time for new cables and I am debating on which to go with. I work in a bike shop and we use big rolls of Bontrager cables and housing, which is rebranded Jagwire. I can get that stuff just stupid cheap with my employe discount. The Dura Ace cable packs aren't all that much but a lot more compared to that crazy cheap prices of the Bontrager stuff. Which should I go with.
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Jagwire.
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something coated with teflon.
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Dude, the jagwires are super sweet. I have them on my new bike and vavavoom..very cool Shimano not even inthe same league....also they look super cool smooth like butta..
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i think the dura ace looks better and thats about it. I like the feel of the jagwire stuff and it seems to last longer. Ive learned to avoid teflon coated crap because its never as crisp and seems to get gummed up easier
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When I asked about the same question back in March, I was told that Jagwire made the Dura Ace stuff. I went with the Jagwire kit and it works fine.
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Jagwire isn't as durable and their end caps aren't as strong. The odds of the der cable housing pushing through and jamming in your shifter are MUCH higher.

The teflon coating may start or sweet but fine grit chews it up and it becomes constrictive. The stainless cable are ...ok... but they stretch A LOT when new.

Go DA. The price difference is less than it will cost you for new bar tape you'll need to buy when you change out your nasty jaqwire cables in 6 months.

BTW, this comes from a Campagnolo guy but I was sponsored by Jaqwire 5 years ago and still have shop rolls of housing and cables in my home.
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Jagwire isn't as durable and their end caps aren't as strong. The odds of the der cable housing pushing through and jamming in your shifter are MUCH higher.

The teflon coating may start or sweet but fine grit chews it up and it becomes constrictive. The stainless cable are ...ok... but they stretch A LOT when new.

Go DA. The price difference is less than it will cost you for new bar tape you'll need to buy when you change out your nasty jaqwire cables in 6 months.

BTW, this comes from a Campagnolo guy but I was sponsored by Jaqwire 5 years ago and still have shop rolls of housing and cables in my home.
yeah. nice etiquette. way to go bad mouthing your sponsor in public, even if it's from "5 years ago"
 
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Originally Posted by meimu View Post
yeah. nice etiquette. way to go bad mouthing your sponsor in public, even if it's from "5 years ago"
Comparing both your opinions, I deem yours useless. I'll go with Bob Dopolina's.
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I understand that Gucci makes leather cables. Those sound really neat.
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I don't think you can just knock down Jagwire's whole product line, considering that they sell many models...whereas with Dura-Ace...it's just one model.
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Jagwire makes dura ace.
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Originally Posted by vic32amg View Post
Jagwire makes dura ace.
I posed questions to my LBS recently.

Quality and Jagwire brands' external housings are the same.

Jagwire and Dura-Ace brands' inner stainless swaged cables are the same.

Make sense?
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My rig came with Jagwire from the factory. Shifts great, no binding or kinking. Very smooth and nice. Looks like it'll last a good while too.

For yuks, I run a little T9 bike lube over the cables too. Makes 'em nice and slippery.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
Jagwire isn't as durable and their end caps aren't as strong. The odds of the der cable housing pushing through and jamming in your shifter are MUCH higher.

The teflon coating may start or sweet but fine grit chews it up and it becomes constrictive. The stainless cable are ...ok... but they stretch A LOT when new.

Go DA. The price difference is less than it will cost you for new bar tape you'll need to buy when you change out your nasty jaqwire cables in 6 months.

BTW, this comes from a Campagnolo guy but I was sponsored by Jaqwire 5 years ago and still have shop rolls of housing and cables in my home.
Can I get that "junk" from you?
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yeah. nice etiquette. way to go bad mouthing your sponsor in public, even if it's from "5 years ago"
They were a product sponsor (not a cash sponsor) and weren't interested in our feedback.

The end of the sponsorship was our decision, not theirs.

If you've ever read any of my posts concerning product you'll find I don't sugar coat. I'm sure Jaqwire will survive.

You do have a point. It's not something I normally do.

As to who makes the DA cables I honestly don't know but just because two products are made by the same company doesn't mean they are the same product or even made with the same materials or constructed to the same standard.

Jaqwire does make some other good products. Their barrel adjusters and MTB stuff is all pretty decent. Their OE product is especially good compared to other brands that are available to the assembly factories.
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Can I get that "junk" from you?
Do you want to pay the shipping?
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Jagwire makes dura ace.
this is fact. Jagwire and da are the same product. Jagwire is available in different colors.
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jagwire in red for me is da bomb. later.
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