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She finally made it home...

Old 08-29-08, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jancouver View Post
nice bike! congrats!

PS whats up with the spacers and the stem? Remove/flip!
Thanks man.

They're like they are so that I can ease myself into a more aggressive position over time. After I get used to the ALREADY aggressive position i'll flip the stem then remove the spacers 5mm at a time (I have 20mm worth of spacers on it, came with the frameset).

I am tempted to get rid of all the spacers and flip the stem and just dive into the aggressive positioning. However, some of the wiser riders told me not to as it would cause me a world of hurt in longer rides.
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Old 08-30-08, 02:06 AM
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Congrats on the bike! Ride it and enjoy it. It's your money and were your decisions that were put into this build. Don't allow anyones words to cause you to second guess your initial thought process. And good on you for picking a good bike shop that helped you out.
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Originally Posted by Iamkar33m View Post
I have, but a handful of people told me to avoid it. They claim it's more expensive and also that it's pretty finicky compared to Shimano. Also Ultegra SL seemed like the best bang for the buck. Anything higher than it seemed to cross my idea of diminishing returns.
In a word, or abbreviation, PBK. Centaur is usually a pretty good deal, but Chorus always nice.

Hard to go wrong with Ultegra though. I think the diminishing returns line blurs somewhere between 105 and Ultegra as far as bang for the buck. Ultegra has more bling factor though, for not much more money.
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What's the problem with you guys?
Just came back to this thread and I'm shocked at all the dissing and hating. The guy got a nice bicycle (a friend of mine has a Tarmac w/full DA and it ROCKS) - maybe not a once in a lifetime deal - so what? He's happy with his new bicycle. Live and let live...
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Old 08-30-08, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
I can't believe all the idiots in this forum! I've riden with plenty of socalled riders that can't ride for crap eventhough they post in forums like they are the elite. I bet half the people dissing Kareem are wannabees anyways. I've met some 'legends in their own mind' riders and I bet these idiots are the same. Believe me K, if they were good riders, they'de be giving you props no matter what bike you bought or rode. These guys have low self esteem and have nothing better to do than make themselves feel like real riders by dissing you!

Someone's got to make them feel good about themselves and they do a good job of it on their own!

You've got a badazz bike, enjoy it ! Dude, F the rest!
Hahahah no doubt, Beanz! Like the slightly overweight guy yesterday who pulls up next to me at a crosswalk on the MUP, after 50 hot sweaty double-headwind miles on gravel with a leaky front tire with maybe 30psi in it and says "wow, that thing looks heavy". "And yours looks expensive".

I swear I don't like dropping people like that, I really don't.

Anyway Kareem, like Beanz says, ignore the morons. They're just pisd because: a.) wife isn't giving it up, and b.) wife won't let them buy nice toys, so they have to nit-pick everyone else's. You can tell those of us who those two don't apply to.. and we all dig your bike something fierce!

Sidenote, I've seen most gruppos in person, and looks-wise I think Ultegra SL looks best aside from Campy Record. I don't care about grams, if I need to shed those I'll have a bean burrito two hours before my ride.
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Originally Posted by bdinger View Post

They're just pisd because: a.) wife isn't giving it up, and b.)

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Originally Posted by bdinger View Post
Sidenote, I've seen most gruppos in person, and looks-wise I think Ultegra SL looks best aside from Campy Record. I don't care about grams, if I need to shed those I'll have a bean burrito two hours before my ride.

Wayyyyy to much info on the training techniques there Bd.
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Old 08-30-08, 09:32 AM
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that much money and you dont have a decent set of wheels on there.... sigh....
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Old 08-30-08, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mikesdca View Post
Cycling is the new golf.
ditto
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Old 08-30-08, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Iamkar33m View Post
This is the billionth time I have to type this out... so i'll do it big and bold so you can read it:

THE BONTRAGERS ARE TEMPORARY WHEELS UNTIL I CAN BUY A NICER WHEELSET.

Got it... good.
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that much money and you dont have a decent set of wheels on there.... sigh....
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Old 08-30-08, 01:34 PM
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that the wheels are just temporary is irrelevant to the fact that you still blew 5k on a bike that doesn't have nice wheels.
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Old 08-30-08, 01:38 PM
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Get on with your lives and stop whining about what other people are spending their money on. The guy is obviously very happy with his purchase.
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Old 08-30-08, 01:42 PM
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That's alot of money for that bike. You should check out my LBS just down the street from you:

http://bikereligion.com/

They don't sell specialized, but they do have some Ridleys, Scotts, and KHSs on closeout.

They got me a good training bike: '08 ridley Damocles frame, Ultegra SL components, Torrelli Bormio wheels, Ritchey stem and seatpost, Deda bars, and a saddle of my choice (Selle Italia Flite) for $2,100.

I'd say take that bike back while you can and find a better deal.

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Old 08-30-08, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by joecool2727 View Post
that the wheels are just temporary is irrelevant to the fact that you still blew 5k on a bike that doesn't have nice wheels.
+1
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Old 08-30-08, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Chucklehead View Post
Get on with your lives and stop whining about what other people are spending their money on. The guy is obviously very happy with his purchase.
But bike shops in SoCal need to realize that they need to make good deals and be good to their customers. I'm just trying to help the guy out by pointing him in the direction of a good LBS that won't take him to the cleaners and still get him a good bike.
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Old 08-30-08, 02:36 PM
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I'd have to agree with the outrageous pricing...

I paid half that for my full Dura-Ace 06 Madone 5.2 and I'm sure the weight diffence is nil...like that matters.

That's serious cash to be droppin on a bike, we better not see this thing on Craigslist in the next year just cause you got "bored" of cycling. (We've all seen that before)
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^^^ There's a huge difference is the approach, though! You likely shopped around and hunted for deals. The OP got exactly what any joe blow would have gotten by walking into an LBS, pointing at a carbon sensation, and saying, "I want that one!" There's nothing wrong with that, but for avid cyclists that own and maintain more than two high end bikes, price becomes a real driving factor - especially with disposable parts like brake pads, chains, cassettes, chainrings, etc...

Originally Posted by Iamkar33m View Post
I have, but a handful of people told me to avoid it. They claim it's more expensive and also that it's pretty finicky compared to Shimano. Also Ultegra SL seemed like the best bang for the buck. Anything higher than it seemed to cross my idea of diminishing returns.
Yeah, for the price paid, I'd definitely want campy or SRAM Red. Campy and SRAM should both be less fussy than Shimano because of the pull ratios, or so I've been told. Campy also has the advantage of being serviceable, so the brifters will last much longer with proper maintenance.

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Originally Posted by Iamkar33m View Post
Let's price it out:

Frame (Tarmac SL2 WCE): $2800
Gruppo (Ultegra SL): $1120
Misc Comp: $ 700 (Saddle, Handlebar, Stem, Pedals, etc)
What?
Subtotal: $4620
Sales Tax: $ 358
Total: $4978

Wheels: $ 400
The wheels are some beater wheels my buddy sold me real cheap ($300 for Bonty Race-X-Lite with new tires, that's a STEAL).
What?
Grand Total: $5378

So no... at $5150 I did not get ripped off.
Sure you did.

Your parents have a nice place
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Originally Posted by Sinn View Post
That's alot of money for that bike. You should check out my LBS just down the street from you:

http://bikereligion.com/

They don't sell specialized, but they do have some Ridleys, Scotts, and KHSs on closeout.

They got me a good training bike: '08 ridley Damocles frame, Ultegra SL components, Torrelli Bormio wheels, Ritchey stem and seatpost, Deda bars, and a saddle of my choice (Selle Italia Flite) for $2,100.

I'd say take that bike back while you can and find a better deal.
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Originally Posted by Iamkar33m View Post
I have a 2nd bottle cage that will go on as soon as I find the right size allen wrench for these darn screws. The allen keys found their way out of the plastic holder and I can't seem to figure out which one is which.
Was a bit worried for the OP about this issue, so I took the question to the bike mechanics forums, where it rapidly evolved into an multi-page opus. There was a lot of heated back-and-forth, equations proposed and ridiculed, theories posited and rejected, before a consensus finally emerged.

Apparently (and I think you'll find this as surprising as I did), what you can do is to try inserting the Allen keys in your possession one at a time into the little hole in the top of the screw. If the key fits snugly in the hole, then it's probably the correct size!

Some posters did warn, however, that this method should be avoided if you were one of those infants who always tried to squish the square block into the round slot.
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Originally Posted by Iamkar33m View Post
My custom build is complete (sans the ****ty arse wheels, until I can afford a decent set). Here's a picture of her with the Salesman (Ed, on the left), and the builder (Matthew, on the right). More pics tomorrow when I can get her pearl white paint to glimmer under the So. Cali sun

Thank you Ed & Matt @ Rock n' Road Cyclery (Anaheim Hills, CA)!!!


I adore her so.

Oh, I forgot to mention... she set me back about $5,150 all said and done (Parts, labor, taxes).
You've been riding for what, 8 weeks now?
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
hey, share some of that with me... it's hilarious watching jealous racers try to tear me apart because I bought a bike they would only dream of owning.
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Can speak for anyone else but I don't dream of owning a Specialized.
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Can speak for anyone else but I don't dream of owning a Specialized.
especially outfitted with ultegra and bontrager wheels.
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