Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Weight makes all the difference.

Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Weight makes all the difference.

Old 09-05-08, 04:40 PM
  #1  
baiskeli
unaangalia nini?
Thread Starter
 
baiskeli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arlington MA
Posts: 1,136

Bikes: Jamis Quest (Ultegra components,Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheels and Reynods Ouzo Pro Fork), Gary Fisher Tassajara

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Weight makes all the difference.

I'm not fast or a mountain goat by any means, but last year I weighed 175-177lbs and this year 167lbs. I rode a short sharp little hill (.3 miles, 18%) at the end of my regular ride and it felt almost easy. Last year I remember a very similar hill causing me more pain. Now, I know that a hill that is .3 miles can't really be called a hill and had it gone more than .3 miles I would have been in serious pain, but I've noticed this year I'm having a much easier time on rides because the hills just feel easier. And I missed 3 months of riding this year meaning I am in worse shape than last year.

So its funny how much difference 10 lbs make.
__________________
baiskeli is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 04:42 PM
  #2  
patentcad
Peloton Shelter Dog
 
patentcad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chester, NY
Posts: 90,399

Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB

Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1026 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I mean, really, who would have ever guessed?
patentcad is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 04:44 PM
  #3  
cyclingvirtual
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hampshire UK
Posts: 265

Bikes: Specialized + Pinarello

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i am only 58kg and notice a big diferrence if i put on say 2-3 kilos
cyclingvirtual is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 04:51 PM
  #4  
2WheelFury
Cat 6 Wheel-Sucker
 
2WheelFury's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Central New England
Posts: 310

Bikes: Pinarello, Cannondale, Peugeot

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I bet lots of practice & conditioning has a thing or two to do with it...
2WheelFury is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 04:52 PM
  #5  
Shipht
Freezing Member
 
Shipht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Ottawa, On
Posts: 92

Bikes: 08 Specialized Allez Sport

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I doubt the 10lbs is the biggest difference you are noticing. Have you been riding a lot, more than likely the training and riding you've been doing that is improving your ability to handle hills.

I'm in the same boat and about 7 pounds down from when I started 3 months ago. But I ride in a very hilly section. About 4000 feet for 50km, and every time I go out I can push harder and faster up hills, noticeably.
Shipht is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 05:01 PM
  #6  
JBBOOKS
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 233
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I weigh 225. I lumber up hills, just slightly ahead of a heart attack.
JBBOOKS is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 06:24 PM
  #7  
operator
cab horn
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 28,335

Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by baiskeli View Post
I'm not fast or a mountain goat by any means, but last year I weighed 175-177lbs and this year 167lbs. I rode a short sharp little hill (.3 miles, 18%) at the end of my regular ride and it felt almost easy. Last year I remember a very similar hill causing me more pain. Now, I know that a hill that is .3 miles can't really be called a hill and had it gone more than .3 miles I would have been in serious pain, but I've noticed this year I'm having a much easier time on rides because the hills just feel easier. And I missed 3 months of riding this year meaning I am in worse shape than last year.

So its funny how much difference 10 lbs make.
Well so much for an objective and quantitative analysis of your improvement. GG.
operator is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 06:27 PM
  #8  
patentcad
Peloton Shelter Dog
 
patentcad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chester, NY
Posts: 90,399

Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB

Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1026 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
You're all too fat for this sport.

Pass the Twinkies Chipcom.
patentcad is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 07:48 PM
  #9  
KiddSisko
Has coddling tendencies.
 
KiddSisko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Topanga Canyon
Posts: 8,352

Bikes: 2008 Blue RC8 w/ '09 Rival

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have pretty much the same experience as the OP. 10 lbs heavier last year at this time, doing much better at riding distances and climbing this year. The .3 mi and 18% hill is also similar to what I have (except mine is steeper*) nearby, and when I started all this climbing stuff, that hill was my main workout for quite a while. I also used it to guage for how well I was doing. It used to hurt like hell and my heart would scream at me. Now it's a snap. Heart doesn't scream at me on those short and steep hills anymore. Breathing is easier as well. Last year it was huff, puff and choke. I'm going to assume the main difference between then to now is a vastly improved and conditioned cardio system. I haven't done it, but I suspect if carried 10 lbs of gear up that hill today, I'd still be able to do it without much effort. Certainly not huff, puff and choke like last year.

Question: Regarding fitness, starting with optimal cycling conditioning, which is first to degrade if you don't ride for an extended period of time - the legs, or the cardio? Which is harder to get back in shape?

*requisite BF one-up-ish bravado
KiddSisko is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 07:50 PM
  #10  
dauphin
Senior Member
 
dauphin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: California
Posts: 2,992
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I went on a ride last Sunday with a bunch of guys who were ten years younger and 10-20lbs lighter than me....I watched them get smaller and smaller...and then disappear...
dauphin is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 07:51 PM
  #11  
saintsfan342000
Bigger Than Both of Us
 
saintsfan342000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Austin/Dallas 13/7
Posts: 184
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm about 7% slower (on average) at my current bulked up weight of 185 lbs than when I was a sleek 168.
saintsfan342000 is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 07:53 PM
  #12  
El Pelon
dia por dia
 
El Pelon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 300

Bikes: hand built fixie, Lightspeed Sienna D/A

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
There is a hill near my house that is a 19 percent grade that goes for 27 km. I used to climb it in my granny gear, chain smoking camels all the way up.

Last year, I dropped a half a pound, and switched to camel lights. I now climb much faster.
El Pelon is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 08:27 PM
  #13  
Copperhed51
Senior Member
 
Copperhed51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Overland Park, KS and Denver, CO
Posts: 720

Bikes: 2008 Felt F5 w/ SRAM Force, 2002 Giant OCR2, Specialized Stumpjumper M2 Comp

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've lost 65 pounds this year and don't notice a whole lot of difference really. I mean, I'm in better shape due to my training, but I honestly don't feel any lighter at all. I was 250 and now I'm hovering around 185. My goal was 175 but now I'm thinking of setting a new goal of around 155.
Copperhed51 is offline  
Old 09-05-08, 08:34 PM
  #14  
botto 
.
 
botto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 40,369
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Shipht View Post
I doubt the 10lbs is the biggest difference you are noticing. Have you been riding a lot, more than likely the training and riding you've been doing that is improving your ability to handle hills.

I'm in the same boat and about 7 pounds down from when I started 3 months ago. But I ride in a very hilly section. About 4000 feet for 50km, and every time I go out I can push harder and faster up hills, noticeably.
i doubt that you're 100% correct.
botto is offline  
Old 09-06-08, 12:47 AM
  #15  
pista
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 195
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
We went away for a 3 week vacation this August and didn't get to ride much and ended 10 lbs heavier.
I found that the 10 lbs made me more sluggish and slower. In one week I managed to loose 5 lbs and can feel the difference already. I can sprint better, etc. So I'm going back to to losing the other 5 lbs to back to where I was.

Yes, weight makes a big difference in performance. After a while you end up finding your optimum weight where you ride well and feel good as well especially on longer distances. My optimum weight is about 160 and I'm 6' 2". I feel better overall being lean and I ride much better at that weight. I've been somewhat lower but keep hanging around the 160. I was 155 for a while but for some reason I felt hungry all the time.

By the way a number of years ago I weighed close to 240. That spring and summer I ground my weight down by 60 some lbs. And then some more.

Yes, a relatively small gain in weight can really impact your cycling performance.

Last edited by pista; 09-06-08 at 12:53 AM.
pista is offline  
Old 09-06-08, 02:40 AM
  #16  
lechat
Senior Member
 
lechat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: s.e. tn.
Posts: 1,245
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
light beer and cigarettes. the key to everlasting youth!
lechat is offline  
Old 09-07-08, 05:43 PM
  #17  
baiskeli
unaangalia nini?
Thread Starter
 
baiskeli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arlington MA
Posts: 1,136

Bikes: Jamis Quest (Ultegra components,Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheels and Reynods Ouzo Pro Fork), Gary Fisher Tassajara

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
I mean, really, who would have ever guessed?
Were you born a smartass or it is something you caught.
__________________
baiskeli is offline  
Old 09-07-08, 06:12 PM
  #18  
umd
Banned
 
umd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 28,387

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Of course weight makes a difference. But I don't think 5 pounds will make the difference between that hill being painfull or not. You are just in better shape.
umd is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
deekoy
For Sale
0
05-09-18 06:37 PM
datlas
Road Cycling
16
09-11-10 10:03 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.