Scott CR1
 

LBS has one left in my size, price is good $2100 and I really liked the ride.

I've read on this MB a few complaints that it doesn't have a replaceable derailleur hanger. Is this a big issue?

Also it comes with a compact and I want at standard crankset. They have an '07 SRAM Rival w/BB they can switch out with the Ultegra at no cost. Is that a significant issue with either shifting or inferior quality.

Thanks

If you treat your stuff like crap, or live with people who do, replaceable derailleur hangers are a necessity.

Otherwise, the CR1 is a badass rig.

Crashed my CR1 Saturday on the right side. D hanger is fine, I am however permanantly bent.

Cool, hope you get unbent.

Any thoughts on the SRAM Rival cranks vs. Ultegra?

Do you plan on racing your bike?

Do you plan on riding in fast group rides that have crashes?

If not these are the most common scenarios (not the only) where you could crash and possibly bend your der hanger. Having said that, I crashed my CR1 on an off-camber right hand turn on a down hill. I landed pretty hard on the drive side and bent the hanger. Interestingly, my mechanic said "I prefer non replaceable because they are stronger this way".

Where do you live? Are there hills, mountains, rollers where you live or want to ride? Are you a good climber? Far too many riders are riding standard cranks when they don't have the leg strength to push them.

I don't treat my equipment like crap, in fact, I babied my CR1, but the frame was a total write-off after 4 months because of a derailleur hanger-related crash.

I'd stay away from the CR1 -- there are a lot of better values and (I think) bikes that ride better out there.

I love my Scott....AND it's irreplaceable derailleur hanger.

I'm a reasonably decent recreational rider. I'm not a great climber but enjoy getting to the hills. Typically my local rides are flattish with some short hills. However in the last month I've probably done half a dozen rides with 4K'-5K' climbing in each plus a century with 7.5K' of climbing, all with an old steel frame and a standard crank with a 53/39 and a 12-25 8spd cogset. The climbs rarely were steeper than 8% and mostly 4-6% so nothing really steep.

I do find myself winding out on downhils in a 53-12 so figure it would be worse with a 50-12. I'm not totally against a compact but it seems like there are comprimises like a bigger jump for the front shifter etc. that make me want to stick what I'm comfortable with.

I'm pretty easy on equipment, ride mostly by myself but may change that if I get this bike and want to train for events longer than a century.

This bike seemed like a good deal. It's gotten good reviews. Lists for $2700, on sale for $2100. Full Ultegra and Ksyrium Elites plus I liked the ride.

I have to admit I'm new to anything other than steel and this is a big investment for me so I'm more than a little cautious.

I'm open to suggestions on other bikes in this price range. I've heard good things about Felt but haven't found one locally to test ride.

I love my Scott too, but wish it had a replaceable derailleur hanger. :/

not sure about carbon bikes. but on my aluminum jamis the RD hangar is useless as a sacrificial part. it's milled from billet or cast. the frame bent way easier than the hangar. it would probably take a spirited blow from a baby sledge to bend it.

Other than UT_Dude, I have not heard many other people having to ACTUALLY replace their entire frame because of this issue, even though it was talked about and discussed ad nauseam.

So, if you are a racer and anticipate a lot of hard crashes, don't take the risk. As for the rest of us recreational riders enjoying a great CF bike for climbing and fast riding, worrying about this is like worrying the sky will fall.

And you can put a breakaway bolt on the derailleur if you're worried. This is always discussed wrt to the Scotts.

I have seen a total of 3 CR1 and a Scott hardtail with a trashed rear thanks to a non-replaceable RD. Friends dont let friends buy CR1s. Other than the RD, it is one of my favorite bikes and would be on my short list. The lack of replaceable hanger was a deal breaker for me.

Scott can replace the hanger (at the owner's expense) if it gets damaged, so the frame is not totalled if this happens.