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Will Lance Armstrong Win the 2009 Tour de France?

Old 09-10-08, 11:47 AM
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how bout "who cares but he is sure winning for cancer awareness."
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I honestly don't know what that means. At least where I live we're all pretty aware of cancer already. Now I'm not saying the LFF doesn't do any good, just that I don't know what they do other than make 99 cents selling penny rubber bracelets. So where does that money go....I sure hope it's somewhere other than awareness.
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"In 11 years, the LIVESTRONG Challenge has raised in excess of $40 million while uniting individuals to pick a fight with cancer and stand up for the nearly 12 million Americans living with cancer today"....I read they just passed a prop. in Texas for 3 billion towards the fight...smart guy

edit: here ya go "
Prop 15 will authorize up to $3 billion in state general revenue bonds to fund cancer research, prevention, early detection and control programs."
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Smart guy? I asked a question. I still don't see the foundation's relation to passing legislation.
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Originally Posted by enjoi07
"In 11 years, the LIVESTRONG Challenge has raised in excess of $40 million while uniting individuals to pick a fight with cancer and stand up for the nearly 12 million Americans living with cancer today"....I read they just passed a prop. in Texas for 3 billion towards the fight...smart guy

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Prop 15 will authorize up to $3 billion in state general revenue bonds to fund cancer research, prevention, early detection and control programs."
+1 If the Live strong foundation helps to save one person from suffering through death by cancer, it's worth it. The man lived through hell, survived, and has been an inspiration to many other cancer patients. He has not forgotten them..wish I could make such a contribution.. allot of people gain fame and live large, but never give back...In Lance Armstrong's life this is not the case...
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The Ohio State University and The Ohio State University Comprehensive Cancer Center – James Cancer Hospital and Solove Research Institute hosted the Lance Armstrong Foundation’s LIVESTRONG Summit July 24-27, bringing together 1,000 current and potential cancer leaders from across the country, all united with the singular purpose of making cancer a national priority.
Delegates concentrated on one of three tracks – Advocacy, Elections or Fundraising – to learn how to organize grassroots networks to influence decision makers, pass legislation and raise critically-needed funds for further research and discovery
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You kind of have to wonder about that. Prudhomme has already said that Lance is welcome at the Tour, but what else could he really say right now? If the ASO doesn't really want Lance there, they can't cite any quasi-legitimate reason at the moment other than "it's our party and we'll invite who we want". Appearing to be "anti-cancer awareness" would be a bad PR move for them. However if they found a way to exclude Lance's team, as Astana was excluded this year based on the transgressions of riders and management no longer with the team, then that is a different story. It would be hard for the ASO not to look like le douché baguettes if Lance was excluded for nothing more than a thinly-veiled grudge. Still, I'm willing to give the ASO the benefit of the doubt and think that they will let him in.
He did NOT say he was welcome at the tour. He said that as it stood now, Lance was eligible for the tour but that could change. He brought up the suspicions again

"Suspicion has followed Lance Armstrong since 1999, everyone knows that. But in this proposed comeback … you have to remember we are in mid-September and that much water will run under the bridge until the Tour de France departure in Monaco," Prudhomme said.
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Noting that four of Armstrong's former teammates later "got caught" for using banned substances, Prudhomme told reporters, "It means that the anti-doping fight has really made progress."

"We are not afraid of keeping out one rider or another," he said at the headquarters of the Amaury Sports Organization, which runs the race.

(https://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycli...ong-tour_N.htm)
"Yes, if Lance will have a license and if he is in a team that we will choose for the Tour, L.A. (Lance Armstrong) will be at the start of the 2009's Tour de France in Monaco the 4th of July," race director Christian Prudhomme said."But it's a long way until July 2009."
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What a tour it will be...

Armstrong, Contador, Sastre, isn't Basso coming back, Evans, Levi, maybe Andy Schlek will mature a little...
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who were his 4 former teammates that got caught?
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Beltran, Landis, Hamilton, Heras....

Did I miss any...
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He'll win 7 more.
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I saw him race in Leadville. He looked O.K.

I've never been a fan of Lance. I think he cheated sometimes. He may be able to get back his fitness. If so, he deserves a chance to race some more. I will not be happy if he wins again by focusing on just the Tour de France.

I've always been a fan of Tyler. I think he cheated sometimes. He got back his fitness. He deserved a chance to race some more. I was happy he won again by focusing on more than just the Tour de France.

Cycling is more than just July.
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Originally Posted by Hammertoe
Beltran, Landis, Hamilton, Heras....

Did I miss any...
Frankie
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...Vaughters.
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I'll just be happy to see him ride again. Maybe he'll win, maybe he won't. But I'll bet he can...

So we all know that Prudhomme and the ASO make up the rules as they go along and always have with the Tour. I happen to think that Lance, as possibly the most meticulous and well-managed elite athlete out there, will find a way around any new rule the ASO can configure.

Consider this: a Livestrong team. Lance at the helm. Johan driving the car. (who cares about Astana contracts? Contracts are made to be broken, and teams disband and shift sponsorships all the time). Massive fund-raising and sponsorship for the cause. Prudhomme and the ASO would be idiots to keep them out.

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Originally Posted by deltasierra
Frankie
Never caught but admitted...

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...Vaughters.
Bee sting???
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Originally Posted by Hammertoe
Never caught but admitted...



Bee sting???
No, no. The bee sting incident was absurd. Bummer of a way to lose out on finishing a tour. I`m actually referring to his comments in this article:

https://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle4232249.ece
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Thanks for the clarification there, Hammertoe, you 7 road bike-owning stud. Frankie doped, no clarification was needed.
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Originally Posted by RoadToNowhere
as possibly the most meticulous and well-managed elite athlete out there
careful, most arguments ultimately fail in hyperbole.
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I raced with Chipcom this past spring. He looked OK but he's got a long way to go from Cat 5 in Ohio to the Pro ranks. He'll still have a bunch of races to do just to become a 4. After reading some of his post about watching Le Tour, I'm not so sure he always races clean. Out of respect to a fellow BF'r I did vote for Chipcom.
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He did NOT say he was welcome at the tour. He said that as it stood now, Lance was eligible for the tour but that could change. He brought up the suspicions again
I will forward your concerns to Velo News so they can correct their headline.
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If anyone can do it, it's him. He's won seven times and assuredly has watched the last tour and analyzed the riders and teams. He hasn't been out of racing for that long either, and he's obviously still in shape.

I'm not trying to say he's definitely going to win, but come on people.. He KNOWS what he's doing.
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I'll say it. He's definitely going to win.
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