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I was talking to a guy last night, said Lance Armstrong was his hero

Old 09-16-08, 09:52 PM
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I was talking to a guy last night, said Lance Armstrong was his hero

Seems he found great inspiration though Lance's books about fighting cancer, while struggling with his own battle against Leukemia.

He said that reading about Lance fighting back, not only to full fitness but to go on and win the Tour de France a record 7 times gave him great hope for the future.

I noticed he was wearing a yellow Livestrong bracelet when he lifted his cigarette to his lips
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If a Leukemia survivor wants to smoke so be it. He's been thru hell already and can make these decisions. Also, Lance is an inspiration to me as well.
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That was pretty much his take on it too.

He said something along the lines of "If you can't do what you want in life, why live it?"

So I told him I wonder if my dad, a heavy smoker who died at the age of 42 when I was a baby, leaving three kids under the age of 5, had the same life philosophy.
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Originally Posted by MONGO! View Post
That was pretty much his take on it too.

He said something along the lines of "If you can't do what you want in life, why live it?"

So I told him I wonder if my dad, a heavy smoker who died at the age of 42 when I was a baby, leaving three kids under the age of 5, had the same life philosophy.
You personal story is not a good one. Sorry.
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So this poor guy is battling leukemia, and you bust his balls with you own sob story? Then you post about it here?

Selfish pr*ck.
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My mom has battled lung cancer on and off since i was 5 (im 17 now) and has probably a year or so left to live. I wear my livestrong bracelet every day. Lance Armstrong IS my hero.

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Cancer sucks. That is all.
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Originally Posted by dcbikeguy View Post
So this poor guy is battling leukemia
you call smoking battling leukemia?

brilliant
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Originally Posted by zzzwillzzz View Post
you call smoking battling leukemia?

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I guess you have it all figured out, eh monkey boy?
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Originally Posted by MONGO! View Post
Seems he found great inspiration though Lance's books about fighting cancer, while struggling with his own battle against Leukemia.

He said that reading about Lance fighting back, not only to full fitness but to go on and win the Tour de France a record 7 times gave him great hope for the future.

I noticed he was wearing a yellow Livestrong bracelet when he lifted his cigarette to his lips

I think I see one of points you are trying to make and given your personal history it's somewhat understandable. I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to imply about Lance but it doesn't sound good. If that's the case it's fairly sad that you feel that way, considering that Lance Armstrong could probably be attributed to saving 100's or even thousands of lives by giving people hope and by raising MILLIONS of dollars for cancer research. Not to mention the awareness that he has raised thus directly increasing research efforts and public understanding of this terrible disease around the world. It's difficult to feel sympathy for people who smoke but smoking is a disease in itself not unlike other physical addictions. My stepfather died of lung cancer at age 42 even after being smoke free for 10 years. I don't blame him though, I blame the tobacco conglomerates that push this dangerous DRUG on people starting from the day they are old enough to have enough money to spend on cigarettes. Lance is the best thing that has happened to this disease in a long time. I'm sorry his efforts were not timely enough to save your father though.
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Why do so many people read between the lines. Why can't you understand the fact that This guy is a hypocrite for smoking while battling leukemia, and then calling Lance his hero... I get the point of this post. I am not one to judge, but any one who purposely harms their body is in for some kind of shock. And then they seek simpathy??
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Originally Posted by rufvelo View Post
If a Leukemia survivor wants to smoke so be it. He's been thru hell already and can make these decisions. Also, Lance is an inspiration to me as well.
Anyone can make the decision, cancer or not. It's still a dumb one. Of course, maybe he decided that he really likes his oncologist and wants to see him again for more of that good chemo.
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I'm a Lance fan. I loved watching that cocky Texan drape an American flag over his shoulders on French soil for 7 years. I'm a patriot... sue me. I loved his book... and am still floored by his accomplishments post cancer. Even though it's not the "Hip Bike Culture" thing to do... I'm still a big Lance fan. Welcome back Lance! Give em' hell!
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Originally Posted by wirelessness View Post
I think I see one of points you are trying to make and given your personal history it's somewhat understandable. I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to imply about Lance but it doesn't sound good. If that's the case it's fairly sad that you feel that way, considering that Lance Armstrong could probably be attributed to saving 100's or even thousands of lives by giving people hope and by raising MILLIONS of dollars for cancer research. Not to mention the awareness that he has raised thus directly increasing research efforts and public understanding of this terrible disease around the world. It's difficult to feel sympathy for people who smoke but smoking is a disease in itself not unlike other physical addictions. My stepfather died of lung cancer at age 42 even after being smoke free for 10 years. I don't blame him though, I blame the tobacco conglomerates that push this dangerous DRUG on people starting from the day they are old enough to have enough money to spend on cigarettes. Lance is the best thing that has happened to this disease in a long time. I'm sorry his efforts were not timely enough to save your father though.
So your stepfather was forced to smoke by the tobacco companies huh? He had NO choice to smoke or not to smoke? Explain that one to me.
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yeah, kind of hypocritical I mean come on..
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I don't know how inspiring his book could have been if he is still smoking. Sorry, but that's just pure ignorance. I've always believed that on IQ tests, the first question should be "Do you smoke?" If yes, subtract 50 points.
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it's not really that different from someone with lung cancer having a big mac. I don't know if it's really that hypocritical, though. Would you also judge him for not wearing sunscreen?
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it's not really that different from someone with lung cancer having a big mac. I don't know if it's really that hypocritical, though. Would you also judge him for not wearing sunscreen?
and all the other things. perhaps if he has ever been in a car - subtract another 50 points. afterall - that leads to death for over 40k people a year. maybe he should be hounded for putting too much salt on his fries, or having another helping of ice cream after dinner.

i thought we still lived in a country where people can make their own decisions in peace.
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I just spent the last year and a half watching my 30 year old cousin die of leukemia. I support the LAF for what they are doing. At our family reunion on the 4th of July he said he was tired of being sick. He died 2 weeks later. If that man wants a cigarette then who am I to deny him that. Life is too short to not enjoy it, and everyone enjoys it differently.

I have worn my LIVESTRONG band since the day my cousin was diagnosed, and will continue to do so until a cure is at hand. Thank you Lance for what you are doing. I hope my donations help cure this awful disease, for the sake of kids left behind from it. There are three under the age of 5 in my family now. Often the survivors suffer more than the victims.
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Originally Posted by timmhaan View Post
i thought we still lived in a country where people can make their own decisions in peace.
We do. Just because it's legal doesn't make it intelligent.
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We do. Just because it's legal doesn't make it intelligent.
definitely not intelligent. i just don't know how to properly dispense judgement, since i see so many stupid things left and right. smoking is just one of them. so, i tend to err on the side of letting people do what gets them through the day.
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Let's try and not judge others. MY secretary has tried to stop smoking, it's difficult to watch.

When my grandfather was days away from dying of lung cancer and my grandma was still denying him cigs, even his doctor told her, let him smoke, at this point it won't make a difference.

You know what bothers me more than the people doing obviously stupid things to harm themselves?

A**holes like some of the posters above judging them. Do you know why this person does what they are doing? How they started, or if they are even capable of stopping? You assume because it's a vice that doesn't affect you and you have no desire for they can just stop doing it.

My favorite is when a friend of mine was going through severe depression, borderline suicidal, and his family kept telling him, just snap out of it, don't let yourself get down, as if he had some sort of control over the issue.

I am sure the smoker you see outside the building when it's raining, 35F, with winds over 20mph is loving how cool it is to smoke while out there for a puff.

Just don't jump to conclusions about others, that is all.
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Originally Posted by timmhaan View Post
and all the other things. perhaps if he has ever been in a car - subtract another 50 points. afterall - that leads to death for over 40k people a year. maybe he should be hounded for putting too much salt on his fries, or having another helping of ice cream after dinner.

i thought we still lived in a country where people can make their own decisions in peace.
Umm, cars serve a useful purpose. The risks can be managed in a car. There is no way to manage the risk of useless smoke going into your lung. We need salt also, and those that don't consume in moderation have to deal with it. And yes, people can choose to smoke if they want. I also can choose to look at them like they are ignorant.
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Umm, cars serve a useful purpose. The risks can be managed in a car. There is no way to manage the risk of useless smoke going into your lung. We need salt also, and those that don't consume in moderation have to deal with it. And yes, people can choose to smoke if they want. I also can choose to look at them like they are ignorant.
fair enough - if that's what works for you. i personally don't have the energy or desire to be a nanny to a bunch of strangers. especially adults, as they should be well equipped to know all the consequences of their actions.
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